BlastProcessing
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The Boss wouldn't like it.
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WaPo: Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin
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The Boss wouldn't like it.
Host Samurai
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I want to think there is something bigger at background for him to go along with this clowncar, he is too principled and has too long respected career to fall this quickly.
No one with a tenth of a conscience would be lying and obfuscating to protect Trump and he's been doing that for a while now. Sorry to disillusion you, but he's just another piece of shit.
Flying Toaster
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I don't buy into McMaster being a stooge. He is active duty and has to be whatever Trump wants him to be. A dishonorable discharge would be literal suicide to him. Career military then that. No I believe he is stuck and it is absolutely horrible.
Then out government is a joke. If everyone falls in line for trump, they will do so with the next heinous person and so on. This "just doing their jobs." Shit gets old when the victim is the American public and the rest of the world.
I don't think anyone is saying they think he BELIEVES his words/actions, but he's a stooge nonetheless, willing or not. He may just be running through the motions, but it's all the same.
Which is a shame.
You know that feeling when you go on vacation and something goes wrong at work- that magnified sense of sweaty helplessness to fix it?
Kushner knows that feeling at exquisite amplitude.
Kushner's sack has probably shriveled into a smirking pastiche of that prep school excuse for a smile he wears near constantly.
Kushner knows that feeling at exquisite amplitude.
Kushner's sack has probably shriveled into a smirking pastiche of that prep school excuse for a smile he wears near constantly.
McMacster can retire if he wants. He's choosing to be active duty and serve this President. Let's dispell this notion that McMacster doesn't have any outs.
Then question is why he chooses to stay in this clowncar and tarnish his career and reputation?
Beer Monkey
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Projection. OTHER military leaders need to speak out when appropriate.
Autoignition
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I would rather he be a public stooge that prevents a nuclear fuck holocaust behind the scenes than another Michael Flynn.
McMaster has a long and storied history of speaking out and being a pain in the ass.
Best sentence I'll likely read all weekend.
If it's really like that - and it seems like the only real explanation - McMaster is the tragic figure of this whole story. Talk about being in between a rock and a hard place. Still, being a mouthpiece for evil... I'd take whatever exit was possible.
gutter_trash
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following the money trail,
Kushner family owes lots of money for a building they own on 5th Avenue,
snooping the money trail to the lenders leads to... Russia
Kushner family owes lots of money for a building they own on 5th Avenue,
snooping the money trail to the lenders leads to... Russia
I'm​ guessing he thinks he's doing the right thing for the country. The problem is everyone who stays in this administration with this view seem to end up being stooges. The boogeyman of their replacement makes them stay.
https://www.simplypsychology.org/milgram.html
Why? Among other factors, see above link. That experiment explains alot of extremist and authoritarian behavior.
I could be wrong, but i don't think you get to keep a lot of benefits if discharged.
BronsonLee
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So there's a lot to see, tax cuts will never happen, and they were hacked
LOL. Interesting.
ratcliffja
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No that would be if Obama was Trump's illegitimate son that he pawned off on some Kansas girl.
Bullshit. This administration has nothing to fear and they know it.
womfalcs3
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I hope you aren't responsible for any persons like Presidents safety and life.
Yeah it's been going great for them so far. No distractions whatsoever preventing them from legislating.
This administration's goal is not to legislate, but to funnel money into their pockets. I'm pretty sure that part is going well for them.
Yeah Flynn is killing it.
BlastProcessing
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That are, in no way, acting like an administration that has nothing to fear.
Who's talking about Flynn? Trump corp is making bank right now. They don't give a fuck.
He was in the administration?
Ultimately if all these people accomplish is making money for some limited period of time I think we made out pretty good. I don't actually think that's going to happen when this is all over with but if that's your definition of success in this case, your bar is very low.
This administration is collapsing in slow motion. Sorry it's not happening fast enough for you. Probably stupid apathetic Americans.
The question is, how much damage will they do on the way. We can't afford this to happen in slow motion.
If it is rushed, cases collapse. Figures slip through the net. It has to happen slowly. They can't just bundle suspects into a van and slam the door.
The fuck? No, they need to do it right, not rush it.
We need additional pressure coming from the people. Daily protests, calling your representatives daily, donations to the ACLU, etc. - we need to make our voices heard and not rely on the IC to solve this.
By the time they are done, we might be in a war with North Korea or Iran. 20+ million more Americans might be off health insurance. We might withdraw from the Paris accord by then. We might have alienated even more previously allied partners, particularly in intelligence.
We cannot afford any of these things. He needs to be out of office ASAP. He's a ticking time bomb.
I thought your fear was them making money? These investigations are getting in the way of those other things. The administration is impotent, legislatively.
BlastProcessing
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And you think the best way to create that necessary pressure is to constantly say that nothing will come of any of this? You want people to make their voices heard but you constantly try to shut down any discussion of Trump/Russia by saying that it's meaningless.
It might be a good time to take a step back and re-evaluate.
Yes. Do not rely on the IC or the GOP to get us out of this mess.
BlastProcessing
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Instead we should rely on your thread derailing pessimism? I just don't understand your tactic here.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Sensibly cuckled, I mean chuckled.
Gutek believes noise from us does more than the feds doing their job.
And we all know that when creating foreign policy, it is of the utmost importance that no one but the Russians be made aware of what's going on.
Particularly with the AP and New York Times reports, it feels like a White House counter-narrative to either make this a non-story and/or pin it on Flynn, yet it still comes off incredibly poorly. Oh, so Kushner was only enabling Flynn's improper communications? Cool, cool.
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