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WaPo: Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin

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GameAddict411

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antonz said:
The White House is hoping to pull a Reagan and have Flynn fall on the sword. Poor dummy Trump and staff were used and manipulated by Evil Russian Spy Flynn.
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Do think Flynn will just happily sink for Trump and his Administration? It's pretty obvious he knows a lot. If he sinks, he will sink them with him. At least that's what I would do if I were Flynn.
 
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Otnopolit

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GameAddict411 said:
Do think Flynn will just happily sink for Trump and his Administration? It's pretty obvious he knows a lot. If he sinks, he will sink them with him. At least that's what I would do if I were Flynn.
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Well, part of him requesting immunity a month or so back was so that he could tell all, right? In exchange? It doesn't sound like the guy is loyal enough to anybody beyond himself, given the fact he's an opportunistic traitor. It's in his best interest now to cooperate, so I hope he does.
 
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Chumly

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Tovarisc said:
JUST NOW: DHS Sec. Kelly addresses Jared Kushner/Russia back channel reporting
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https://twitter.com/NBCNewsPR/status/868814364475662336

Edit: In same interview he also said that leaking is borderline treasonous act
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I listened to the whole thing. He also didn't insinuate that it was treason he just flat out said he thought it was treason. Yet kushner was totally Normal
 
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theWB27

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It's comical that their tactic is to try and normalize Russia. GTFO...people aren't stupid and yet they keep trying to treat people as if they don't know Russia is the enemy.
 
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pestul

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theWB27 said:
It's comical that their tactic is to try and normalize Russia. GTFO...people aren't stupid and yet they keep trying to treat people as if they don't know Russia is the enemy.
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This is Trump's only way out now I think. He has to convince his party somehow that getting close to Russia was actually a good thing and always intended. There is no f'ing way some of the longtime Rs on Capital Hill should tolerate that stance though.. I think this whole situation is going to end very poorly.
 
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Host Samurai

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pestul said:
This is Trump's only way out now I think. He has to convince his party somehow that getting close to Russia was actually a good thing and always intended. There is no f'ing way some of the longtime Rs on Capital Hill should tolerate that stance though.. I think this whole situation is going to end very poorly.
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I'am sure that Repubes that have business ties to Russia don't give a shit, the Montana guy that won is a good example
 
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theWB27

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pestul said:
This is Trump's only way out now I think. He has to convince his party somehow that getting close to Russia was actually a good thing and always intended. There is no f'ing way some of the longtime Rs on Capital Hill should tolerate that stance though.. I think this whole situation is going to end very poorly.
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Then you have to ask how many of them have ties...
 
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Tovarisc

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Assange: ‘Kushner correct to create channels with everyone’

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on Sunday said he thinks President Trump's adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner was "correct" if he attempted to set up backchannel communication with Russian leadership.

"Kushner correct to create channels with everyone," Assange tweeted Sunday, following reports that Kushner sought to set up a line of communication between the Trump transition team and Moscow.

"CIA has no authority over leadership and is financially motivated to increase conflict."
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http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...hner-correct-to-create-channels-with-everyone
 
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jelly

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Coward Russian puppet Assange hasn't left the embassy yet even when the Swedes dropped the charges.

I think Flynn has a golden parachute waiting for him if he shuts up so he must be deep in it with Trump etc. I guess it's only option to get away with it.
 
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Tovarisc

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SaviourMK2 said:
This. But does anyone believe he actually knows where the smoking gun is and will submit it?
I honestly believe he wants immunity but doesn't have anything worth it.
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I imagine Mueller is doing deep dive to this and evaluating if it's worth to give immunity to Flynn.

BrassDragon said:
Okay... so is Assange saying that when the FSB sets up a US citizen with an encrypted and shielded line to the Kremlin, they have nothing but good will and world peace in their hearts unlike those dastardly CIA people?
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Correct
 
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iammeiam

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Easy_D said:
The fuck, leaking shit to prevent and expose awful acts is heroism, not treason.
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FWIW, the context of the leak he's referring to as treasonous is apparently the US leaking details on the Manchester bombing the UK hadn't released:

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The obvious potential to expand that definition to also cover the Trump-based leaks is a thing, but the specific subject matter that prompted it does seem to be a non-whistleblowing legitimately problematic leak.
 
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pestul

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Wow they really going all in on the "Oh yeah he did it... but it was okay". No fucking way they should let them get away with shit! It's straight up treason.
 
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Zolo

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pestul said:
Wow they really going all in on the "Oh yeah he did it... but it was okay". No fucking way they should let them get away with shit! It's straight up treason.
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With the investigation, the Republican party will have to vote not to impeach Trump. They probably figure that they can't stop evidence from coming up, so the only way out is to try and make the collusion and communications look like not that big of a deal over the next 1-2 years.
 
JetBlackPanda

JetBlackPanda

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Volimar said:
More on this:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/28/politics/john-kelly-jared-kushner-russia/index.html

Are you fucking kidding me? Why even have a secretary of Homeland Security if he's going to hand wave massive security breaches?
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I said this in another thread. We as citizens are helpless. The GOVT has to choose to fix this.

Guess who is in charge?

NOTHING will happen. They will handwave away everything as draining the swamp. Etc etc.

It's beyond my comprehension how 8 months ago the idea that Hillarys private email server was the greatest threat to our democracy. Fast forward today and the sitting president is sharing classified info to Russians in the Oval Office with no US media present. Kushner is asking for back channel communications etc.

Oh well. At least it's not socialism amirite
 
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Ogodei

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John Kelly and his laptop-banning ass have to go down with the rest of them at this rate.

Now it's like the only senior figure, before you get to the lesser cabinet positions like VA or Transportation, who isn't insanely corrupt or possibly traitor is Mattis.
 
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KidGalactus

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KHarvey16 said:
I really thought we were past this.
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Unfortunately not.
I know a ton of people like this.

Some are trying to diminish the alarming nature of the (factual) situation, and others are genuinely caught in the grips of despair.
Which is why we have to make action a priority, and not become complacent.
 
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Tovarisc

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NBC airing Kelly interview now. My God this guy is such Trump & Goon Squad apologist and finding every possible way to excuse what Kush did and how it was right.
 
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TestOfTide

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GoldenEye 007 said:
They're sending a very clear message to whistleblowers.
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Or it could just be Kelly saying what he needs to say to verbally suck up to Trump.

I wouldn't worry unless Kelly starts actually firing a bunch of his DHS staff.

Bam Bam Baklava said:
He could just get pardoned.
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The problem with that attempt is that Flynn likely violated state laws too, which Trump can't pardon. That's why you have certain State AGs going after the Trump campaign.
 
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pestul

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If the FBI presses charges and pursues, does it really matter what any of these shit-heel politicians think in the end? I mean, Trump can just keep pardoning everyone until it gets to the top, but in the meantime everything should still be fully investigated as per the rule of the law.
 
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Dirca

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Fisty said:
Do they still hang for treason convictions? I'd like to see some GOP assholes swing for this
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It's not the 1700's anymore. Look it up. In severest of the severe (which this isn't), the death penalty is sought. Commonly prison time, fines, and never being able to hold office again are the penalties.
 
RPGCrazied

RPGCrazied

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Not even back a day in the US and Trump is tweeting again at 5 am in the morning talking about leaks and fake news. Didn't his lawyers tell him to stop tweeting? What a fucking moron.
 
ElRenoRaven

ElRenoRaven

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RPGCrazied said:
Not even back a day in the US and Trump is tweeting again at 5 am in the morning talking about leaks and fake news. Didn't his lawyers tell him to stop tweeting? What a fucking moron.
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He's not gonna listen to anyone. Let him tweet. It does nothing but hurt him. It gives more ammunition to destroy him with.
 
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