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[Karsticles]

For the health buff or...? I know Loki is supposed to be a bit harder for new players but I've been doing all right. Using Decoy to get enemies into groups and Invis if I'm in trouble. I really feel like I need some kind of Bo-staff melee so I can cleave groups but I'm unsure which one I should get...

I didn't fully address this. Loki takes a lot of work to play, and you need to keep on your toes. You can fall asleep playing Rhino with a good sentinel, wake up 20 minutes later, and still be okay. I can set Rhino in Interception missions and leave the room without him dying. Loki still sometimes dies while you are invisible - lol!

Just trust me that no matter how well you do with Loki, if you swap to Rhino, you will be amazed at how easy the game is. This is not a hard game, but starting with Loki might make you think otherwise. You really need Energy Siphon and some power mods to make him shine.

Just got my Nova and I love her. However I just can't use her second power am I doing something wrong?

Seconding what Cronnie said. After the last patch some of my controls didn't work. I had to re-configure them, and then they worked fine.

 

[Hoodbury]

Ugh, just when I thought I was getting the hang of things I feel lost again now. I'm around 25-30 hours of play time in and not even close to being able to forge a new warframe it feels like. Am I doing something wrong? I need a control module but that's way off on Neptune which is like 2 or 3 planets away from anything I have unlocked. I was thinking there would be a path from Jupiter to Neptune based on the star map but didn't see one.

Is there any chance I could get a clan invite and/or add some of you as friends so I could play with some of you who know what your doing? I feel like I'm pretty plateau'd right now as a newbie Loki just playing in PUGs all the time.

 

[IMBored]

Ugh, just when I thought I was getting the hang of things I feel lost again now. I'm around 25-30 hours of play time in and not even close to being able to forge a new warframe it feels like. Am I doing something wrong? I need a control module but that's way off on Neptune which is like 2 or 3 planets away from anything I have unlocked. I was thinking there would be a path from Jupiter to Neptune based on the star map but didn't see one.

Is there any chance I could get a clan invite and/or add some of you as friends so I could play with some of you who know what your doing? I feel like I'm pretty plateau'd right now as a newbie Loki just playing in PUGs all the time.

For control modules do void key missions. Made the same mistake when I started, trying to make carrier.

 

[Dreamgazer]

Played a bit with Mag, I dont get his powers at all. Crush takes to long and leaves me vulnerable, and pull seems stupid. Is SP the only useful power he has?

HER, SHE.

Anyway, pull is good for trolling, pulling an enemy off of a cliff with you, or getting back capture targets.

Bullet Attractor is good for bosses but you'll hardly use it outside of that.

Shield Polarize = Bread and butter, godly at corpus defense.

Crush = emergency ultimate.

 

[Karsticles]

HER, SHE.

Anyway, pull is good for trolling, pulling an enemy off of a cliff with you, or getting back capture targets.

Bullet Attractor is good for bosses but you'll hardly use it outside of that.

Shield Polarize = Bread and butter, godly at corpus defense.

Crush = emergency ultimate.

I'll add that Mag + Nova vs. Corpus is endless "lolz", for a lack of a better term. When farming for Oxium was a thing, I would find a Nova and just follow her everywhere. Any time I saw the wind up for Molecular Prime, I would Shield Polarize and everything died. It's based on % of shield damage, so it remains an effective combination at all levels.

She's not a great frame, but that's mostly for the same reason many frames aren't good: their abilities are about doing damage, and damage-based abilities cap out fast in this game. Damage abilities should all have secondary effects or be based on percentile damage to keep them useful. Something needs to change there. I think the recent Frost changes are good in this regard. Ice Wave now inflicts Cold 100% of the time, so it has utility in some situations, and Ice Blast freezes. Avalanche still needs some help, and it should really cause freeze on all enemies for 5 seconds or until they take a % of their life as damage.

This stuff is really not that hard to fix, DE!

Any indication of Formas not resetting a weapon's level? It's so boring to re-level stuff. It's part of why I stopped playing so often.

 

[Hoodbury]

For control modules do void key missions. Made the same mistake when I started, trying to make carrier.

Do I have to do those solo?

Tried one once and failed miserably. Granted that was awhile ago now and I was still pretty new to the game and not as upgraded as I am now and it was a Defense one. So maybe now that I have a bit better understanding of the combat of my Loki I'd fair better.

Do only certain ones drop a control module do you know?

 

[IMBored]

Do I have to do those solo?

Tried one once and failed miserably. Granted that was awhile ago now and I was still pretty new to the game and not as upgraded as I am now and it was a Defense one. So maybe now that I have a bit better understanding of the combat of my Loki I'd fair better.

Do only certain ones drop a control module do you know?

No, you shouldn't do it solo. Check the recruiting chat on the game, people are all recruiting for Void runs, or recruit yourself, just say you want x people for the key you want to run and invite them. Also, afaik all void missions have control modules drops, for the pain it took me to get 3 I now have hundreds of them.

 

[yankeehater]

Extend her range. Pull is highly useful. You can pulll off shield holding guys Yank stuff off their feet, Bullet attractor is pretty awesome on tough things because you make them a big target , she's quite good.

Okay, I think I have a mods for extending range I will try that. I havent tried BA yet since I am only rank 4 but I will give it a shot.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Ugh, just when I thought I was getting the hang of things I feel lost again now. I'm around 25-30 hours of play time in and not even close to being able to forge a new warframe it feels like. Am I doing something wrong? I need a control module but that's way off on Neptune which is like 2 or 3 planets away from anything I have unlocked. I was thinking there would be a path from Jupiter to Neptune based on the star map but didn't see one.

Is there any chance I could get a clan invite and/or add some of you as friends so I could play with some of you who know what your doing? I feel like I'm pretty plateau'd right now as a newbie Loki just playing in PUGs all the time.

Clan invite sent.

 

[Mrcapcom]

No, you shouldn't do it solo. Check the recruiting chat on the game, people are all recruiting for Void runs, or recruit yourself, just say you want x people for the key you want to run and invite them. Also, afaik all void missions have control modules drops, for the pain it took me to get 3 I now have hundreds of them.

With the recruiting chat you have to invite them as friend etc to even invite someone correct?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Well that does sound painful, I'll give you that one

I do know about her trick to kill bosses too, but it bored me to tears to use it. Trinity is powerful, don't get me wrong, and I'm sure if I leveled her up and played her right our group could dominate - I just don't feel it. Its not my flavor of fun.

The main reason I've acquired the frames I have is because of how cool their ultimates look.

Just noticed you are not in the clan, wanna join?

 

[IMBored]

With the recruiting chat you have to invite them as friend etc to even invite someone correct?

No, wait for them to pm you then from that tab press x and invite.

 

[NullPointer]

Just noticed you are not in the clan, wanna join?

Thanks for the offer but am already in a tiny clan made up of some close friends. It works.

But anybody can bug me if they need another frame to get stuff done, as long as it doesn't involve boring busywork or scanning plants or other assorted drudgery. I never need a reason to blow shit up royally tho.

 

[ShinMaruku]

I shall be buying some awesome warframe slots and pataoes, so put it in my Zephy?

 

[Dreamgazer]

She's not a great frame, but that's mostly for the same reason many frames aren't good: their abilities are about doing damage, and damage-based abilities cap out fast in this game. Damage abilities should all have secondary effects or be based on percentile damage to keep them useful. Something needs to change there. I think the recent Frost changes are good in this regard. Ice Wave now inflicts Cold 100% of the time, so it has utility in some situations, and Ice Blast freezes. Avalanche still needs some help, and it should really cause freeze on all enemies for 5 seconds or until they take a % of their life as damage.

But shield polarize does have all that...

First of all, shield polarize is the only damaged base skill that scales with enemy levels.
Unlike M. Prime or Stomp, shield polarize does not have a set damage cap.

Damage calculation of a regular maxed shield polarize is:
50% of enemy shield * 250% damage boost.
(ex: 1000 shield will yield a damage of 1750)

Damage calc with max shield polarize + max focus/intensify is:
65% of enemy shield * 325% damage boost.
(ex: 1000 shield will yield a damage of 2762.5.)

Damage calc with max shield polarize + max strength is:
100% of enemy shield * 572.5% damage boost.
(ex: 1000 shield will yield a damage of 6725.)

All of the above damages will double if they are landed as head shots.

For most corpus enemy who has more shield than hp, this usually means instant death.

Second, shield polarize does have the added effect of restoring you and your teammates shield. Which allows for longer survivability.

Finally, shield polarize does not require a secondary damage or enemies to cluster together to deal max damage (unless M. Prime.)




My favorite activity of all time:
Going to pluto defense and making Novas rage quit with nothing to kill.

 

[Dreamgazer]

I shall be buying some awesome warframe slots and pataoes, so put it in my Zephy?

Do you really see yourself using zephyr that much?

 

[NullPointer]

My favorite activity of all time:
Going to pluto defense and making Novas rage quit with nothing to kill.

I think the concept of co-op might be lost on you ;p

 

[Dreamgazer]

I think the concept of co-op might be lost on you ;p

Its not my fault they rage quit.

It's either they m prime or me shield polarize first

 

[ShinMaruku]

Do you really see yourself using zephyr that much?

There is no Zephhyr prime so....

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Heads up everyone:

For todays prime time, the last platinum prize will instead be a primed chamber! (apparently someone inadvertently fused one lol)

 

[Jest Chillin]

So I have the blueprints for the systems, chassis, and helmet for Rhino. At this point I just buy the overall BP from the market for creds then gather the materials and build everything right? Or is there a drop for the overall BP as well?

 

[redhot_]

So I have the blueprints for the systems, chassis, and helmet for Rhino. At this point I just buy the overall BP from the market for creds then gather the materials and build everything right? Or is there a drop for the overall BP as well?

You're correct it's all in the market or dojo for a few select warframes. The only BPs that need to be farmed are for primes.

 

[FUME5]

Haven't had a chance to check (only turned on my PS4 yesterday to download Mercenary Kings) how are we looking for the event leaderboards?

 

[Karsticles]

But shield polarize does have all that...

First of all, shield polarize is the only damaged base skill that scales with enemy levels.
Unlike M. Prime or Stomp, shield polarize does not have a set damage cap.

Damage calculation of a regular maxed shield polarize is:
50% of enemy shield * 250% damage boost.
(ex: 1000 shield will yield a damage of 1750)

Damage calc with max shield polarize + max focus/intensify is:
65% of enemy shield * 325% damage boost.
(ex: 1000 shield will yield a damage of 2762.5.)

Damage calc with max shield polarize + max strength is:
100% of enemy shield * 572.5% damage boost.
(ex: 1000 shield will yield a damage of 6725.)

All of the above damages will double if they are landed as head shots.

For most corpus enemy who has more shield than hp, this usually means instant death.

Second, shield polarize does have the added effect of restoring you and your teammates shield. Which allows for longer survivability.

Finally, shield polarize does not require a secondary damage or enemies to cluster together to deal max damage (unless M. Prime.)




My favorite activity of all time:
Going to pluto defense and making Novas rage quit with nothing to kill.

I actually used Shield Polarize as an example of a scaling ability about a page ago, so no need to tell me.

 

[Jest Chillin]

You're correct it's all in the market or dojo for a few select warframes. The only BPs that need to be farmed are for primes.

Alright cool. Thanks.


I know I'm kind of blowing up the thread with questions and stuff but I want to say I really do appreciate all the help and information you guys are taking the time to post.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Haven't had a chance to check (only turned on my PS4 yesterday to download Mercenary Kings) how are we looking for the event leaderboards?

We need more points.

 

[FUME5]

We need more points.

Yourself, Grim and Dream carried me to a ~2100 score, I don't think I'm going to do much better than that.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Yourself, Grim and Dream carried me to a ~2100 score, I don't think I'm going to do much better than that.

I know, but we still need more points.

Mostly, there's a ton of people with 0 score... =(

Also your chibi rhino avatar was cooler ;D

 

[Karsticles]

Alright cool. Thanks.


I know I'm kind of blowing up the thread with questions and stuff but I want to say I really do appreciate all the help and information you guys are taking the time to post.

Active thread > inactive thread.

I know, but we still need more points.

Mostly, there's a ton of people with 0 score... =(

Also your chibi rhino avatar was cooler ;D

If someone wants to organize a max point run for this weekend, I will use my shield cipher for another run to get above 2000. I am 1350 or so right now.

Also, I started building trinity today. Two frames left for the complete set!

 

[FUME5]

Also your chibi rhino avatar was cooler ;D

It was a good design, but Chibi anything doesn't really represent me. Hence we're back to a photo of a mirrored photo taken on the 360 in my old dungeon. Inception etc...

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

ATTENTION EVERYONE!

The PSN chat channel was getting crowded by people who no longer play.

We have created a new PSN channel and invited all active people to it.

PLEASE leave the older channel if you are in the new one.

IF you are an inactive player but desire to stay in touch in case you come back, stay in the older channel.

THANKS

edit: the process might have a glitch or two, if you have been active in the last 2 weeks and you didn't get to the new channel, let us know.

 

[Orochinagis]

But shield polarize does have all that...

First of all, shield polarize is the only damaged base skill that scales with enemy levels.

SP can also refill shield objetives too

 

[ShinMaruku]

I'd love to do some events but until rank 6 I am tied down.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I'd love to do some events but until rank 6 I am tied down.

Lies ;D

 

[Cronnie]

If I'm online feel free to ask me to bring my Nyx along to any event runs if you need a crowd-control frame, already got my 2k+ but will be happy to help out others on any GAF runs.

 

[Korten]

Question how long would it take to complete the event in one night? My weekend is looking busy and I want to hopefully fit it in there...

 

[Edgeward]

You mean gathering the mats to make the key as well or just the actual escort mission?

The latter is 10 mins max. Doing everything depends on how not awful your teammates are in interception to gain the 6 materials to make the key

 

[Korten]

You mean gathering the mats to make the key as well or just the actual escort mission?

The latter is 10 mins max. Doing everything depends on how not awful your teammates are in interception to gain the 6 materials to make the key

Overall. I wonder if I would be able to get some clan members to join in and help me, that is if it's possible to after you have already completed it yourself.

 

[Cronnie]

Overall. I wonder if I would be able to get some clan members to join in and help me, that is if it's possible to after you have already completed it yourself.

Yup you can get others to help, for the escort mission itself only the host needs the key, so you can invite other clan members if you have the key or get invited if someone else is hosting a run.

 

[Edgeward]

You can ask if someone already has a key made and just join their run. There is no limit to who can join or how many times.

I am looking to do one on saturday since I already have the key but I need to level my synapse more since i just forma'd it again,.

 

[Karsticles]

I'd love to do some events but until rank 6 I am tied down.

Let people carry you. Seriously.

Question how long would it take to complete the event in one night? My weekend is looking busy and I want to hopefully fit it in there...

We're talking 20 min max for the whole thing. This is not a long event. Anyone shying away due to lack of time should try and cut a half hour out of their schedule, because there are some great rewards here.

 

[Coriolanus]

Unlike M. Prime or Stomp, shield polarize does not have a set damage cap.

The main point of mprime on tuff enemies is doubling damage received and slowing them down, tho. Pretty sure the first isn't affected by any cap.

Plus if its a defense mission novas can always make AMD's chain from each other for 400k radial damage a pop.

But yes, more abilities shold scale based on percentages.

 

[Karsticles]

They could do something like "Deals 2000 cold damage, or a minimum of 30% of enemy health" to ensure abilities are never entirely obsolete.

Anyway, question re: Nova. Is it best to go for a max Overextended on her to get a huge Molecular Prime range, or forego that for big damage? My hypothesis is that Molecular Prime usually either kills everything or is too weak to kill, and it is rarely in the "almost but not quite" area, so it's better to have a ton of range and sacrifice some damage to afflict everyone.

 

[Hoodbury]

Alright cool. Thanks.


I know I'm kind of blowing up the thread with questions and stuff but I want to say I really do appreciate all the help and information you guys are taking the time to post.

Feel free to send me a friend request at Hoodbury. We seem to be at about the same place in the game and would be cool to go through things with someone at the same level.

I just got the last part for the Rhino as well. Now just need to play the wait game on it as it builds. My last part will be done today and then the overall blueprint takes another 3 days, ugh.

Thanks again to the guys who helped me out last night. I'm such a noob to some things in the game and the dang console itself, lol. Never thought getting the mic to work would be such a complicated thing for me, ha. This is my first Playstation console and some of the menus seem hard for me to tell what option is selected. We never had any of this fancy 'party chat' stuff on Nintendo hardware.

 

[Coriolanus]

They could do something like "Deals 2000 cold damage, or a minimum of 30% of enemy health" to ensure abilities are never entirely obsolete.

Anyway, question re: Nova. Is it best to go for a max Overextended on her to get a huge Molecular Prime range, or forego that for big damage? My hypothesis is that Molecular Prime usually either kills everything or is too weak to kill, and it is rarely in the "almost but not quite" area, so it's better to have a ton of range and sacrifice some damage to afflict everyone.

Neither. Mprime already has an immense range by default. Increase it any further and you'll be waiting for and hunting down stragglers quite a lot.

75% efficiency, 30% damage, 45% range is more than enough and allows AMD bombing perfectly well on top of Mprime spamming.

Additionally, if you cast it in the air and hold crouch while you do it, nova will keep sliding when she touches the floor during the casting animation.

 

[Karsticles]

Neither. Mprime already has an immense range by default. Increase it any further and you'll be waiting for and hunting down stragglers quite a lot.

75% efficiency, 30% damage, 45% range is more than enough and allows AMD bombing perfectly well on top of Mprime spamming.

Additionally, if you cast it in the air and hold crouch while you do it, nova will keep sliding when she touches the floor during the casting animation.

AMD bombing?

I tried it with just Stretch on an Interception mission and was unsatisfied. I felt like I needed big boom boom. Why not 75% efficiency, -30% damage, and +135% range?

I don't see why I need to hunt stragglers down. This is not Chaos. You can cast MPrime while MPrime is up.

 

[molnizzle]

Anyway, question re: Nova. Is it best to go for a max Overextended on her to get a huge Molecular Prime range, or forego that for big damage? My hypothesis is that Molecular Prime usually either kills everything or is too weak to kill, and it is rarely in the "almost but not quite" area, so it's better to have a ton of range and sacrifice some damage to afflict everyone.

I max range on my Nova. The real benefit of M.Prime is the damage debuff. Having the entire group deal double damage is a fucking godsend in high level play, and by maxing range you tag more enemies with the debuff.

I also have max efficiency though, obviously. For every Warframe. =P

EDIT: Range also increases the explosion radius of each enemy when the Prime goes off. In my experience this tends to deal more damage overall since more enemies are being bit by each Prime blast.

Range is definitely the way to go, your thinking is correct. Range + 75% Efficiency.

 

[Das Mookid]

They could do something like "Deals 2000 cold damage, or a minimum of 30% of enemy health" to ensure abilities are never entirely obsolete.

Anyway, question re: Nova. Is it best to go for a max Overextended on her to get a huge Molecular Prime range, or forego that for big damage? My hypothesis is that Molecular Prime usually either kills everything or is too weak to kill, and it is rarely in the "almost but not quite" area, so it's better to have a ton of range and sacrifice some damage to afflict everyone.

Favoring power pushes the point at which M-prime transition from killing everything to just debuffing everything, to much higher levels. With a rank 8 blind rage, my Nova remains a weapon of immediate mass explody into wave 40+ of T3 defense, although I don't do so at the expense of range (beyond tying up a slot).

If you roll Nova on non-defense or Survival missions, where you are going to be more mobile, enemies are going to be more spread out, and the level cap is going to be piddly then a range/efficiency build will be your better yet.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

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Preview of the Cthulu frame!

A look at what's coming with update 13!

Platinum prizes!

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[Orochinagis]

I am kinda shocked how many people joined the new chat yet there are the same 15 people active.