Warner announces Mad Max among their first wave of 4k UHD Blu Ray releases
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It will upscale them. It does make 1080p blu rays look great. But they won't look as good as a 4k blu-ray, obviously.
I think we're to the level where a 1080p blu-ray won't make anyone groan... it's just a stunning bonus to have it in 4k (but then again, we turn snobby about these things pretty quickly... maybe we will say "blech" to a 1080p image someday
)Ok so it looks like I've been hooked by some slick marketing.
I thought that 4k Blu Rays were already available. If you do a 4k Blu Ray search at Amazon a couple of pages of movies pop up that say 'Mastered in 4k' at the top of the box, and they are available to purchase right now. I haven't bought any yet. Things like this
Yep, you've fallen to marketing.
The film was "Mastered in 4K" (aka scanned in at 4K), but then the digital file was converted for 1080p before being pressed onto the Blu-ray disc.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I mean, how big is your collection? Do you really NEED them all in 4K?
1080p is good enough for most movies for me. My absolute favorite where I want the best image quality possible though, I'll replace those with 4K Editions when available.
Speaking as someone with a 4K TV, upscaled Blu-Ray looks excellent.
I definitely would not recommend anyone to randomly upgrade all their Blu-Ray's to UHD.
For me, it will be rebuying select films (and of course looking out for ones with major improvements) and buying UHD copies of all new movies.
The evil telecom overlords have not held your bandwidth hostage?
Gentleman Jack
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Can't wait for WB's super shitty menus in 4K.
What's a bandwidth cap?
My ISP's "fair use" policy prohibits sustained transfers of more than 48 hours past a certain speed. That's pretty much impossible to hit as a home user.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Ok so it looks like I've been hooked by some slick marketing.
I thought that 4k Blu Rays were already available. If you do a 4k Blu Ray search at Amazon a couple of pages of movies pop up that say 'Mastered in 4k' at the top of the box, and they are available to purchase right now. I haven't bought any yet. Things like this
you fell perfectly into their trap. Dont feel bad, you were the target market for these things, people who recognise the numbers but dont fully understand how the tech works. Its BS that they are allowed to market that way.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Everytime people act like bandwidth is a restriction on streaming, I wonder who is watching all those movies on Netflix or buying iTunes movies....
It will upscale them. It does make 1080p blu rays look great. But they won't look as good as a 4k blu-ray, obviously.
I think we're to the level where a 1080p blu-ray won't make anyone groan... it's just a stunning bonus to have it in 4k (but then again, we turn snobby about these things pretty quickly... maybe we will say "blech" to a 1080p image someday
Oh thank god, so 1080p films will look a bit better when they're upscaled, but not as good as native 4K. That's a trade-off I'm more than content with.
Yea, I'll probably do the same for a few select titles like Lord of the Rings Extended Trilogy in 4K or The Dark Knight Trilogy 4K.
My collection is nearing 100 titles so far, with a few more on the way, due to all the holiday sales on Blu Rays from Amazon.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Yeah it's far far less of a problem than watching DVD on HD sets.
4K resolution is double 1080p in each direction, so it just has to display a block of four pixels for every 1. Incidentally, it's also triple 720p in each direction. So upscaling either resolution won't be a problem.
Eh, it all depends on the scaling hardware used and how the video signal is conveyed.
DVD on a HD set can look great if either the player or the set has a great scaler. If it has a crap scaler, it'll look poor.
The same is true with 4K sets and Blu, and it is even easier there due to the exact 4x pixel multiplier.
George Oscar Bluth II
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I really want to see Disney's 4K lineup.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I suppose that's true. I don't cringe when I watch DVD rips on Kodi.
eerik9000
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Good thing is you don't have to buy them again. Your old Blu-ray discs will work fine for years to come. Most of the films from the last 15 years or so won't be available in 4K anyways, because they were either filmed or post-produced at lower resolutions (mostly 2K).
Yea, now that I've processed this, I'm no longer regretting all these impulse Blu Ray purchases, lol
A top-of-the-line 4K player will be on my shopping list heading into the Holiday season next year, specifically one with an excellent upscaler.
George Oscar Bluth II
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2K is slightly higher than 1080p, right? I suppose movies that are stuck at 2K will have their 4K BDs look kinda better than standard ones.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Is that true? I know the early digital films were filmed at very low resolutions (Attack of the Clones, etc), but I assumed they ramped up to 4k by the late 2000s?
And of course all shot-on-film movies have 4k potential. Whether or not they've been scanned at 4k is another story.
Idiots.
They should have remastered 2001: A Space Odyssey using an 8K scan and then downsampled to 4K to show the awesome!
Especially as 2001 was shot on 65(/70mm) filmstock and will continue to wow us long into the future. Comparatively, we have a bunch of films shot digitally locked forever at ~2K.
They should have remastered 2001: A Space Odyssey using an 8K scan and then downsampled to 4K to show the awesome!
Especially as 2001 was shot on 65(/70mm) filmstock and will continue to wow us long into the future. Comparatively, we have a bunch of films shot digitally locked forever at ~2K.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Who is this geared towards then? At least Blurays played on every PS3. My PS4 cant play this shit and apparently there are no 4k bluray players out there?
entremet
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Ok so it looks like I've been hooked by some slick marketing.
I thought that 4k Blu Rays were already available. If you do a 4k Blu Ray search at Amazon a couple of pages of movies pop up that say 'Mastered in 4k' at the top of the box, and they are available to purchase right now. I haven't bought any yet. Things like this
This is why this physical media will continue to have its asswhopped by streaming and digital downloads.
It's just too confusing for laymen.
Honestly?
Hardcore cinephiles with the setup and hardware to make it work.
The common folks won't be buying these with Smart TVs gaining ground.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
....they're going to release 4k blu-ray players.
BarringGaffner
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Yep if you thought it was hard convincing your parents there was a difference between SD and HD, good luck with the new '4k' haha
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Yeah... it seems like this will be the laserdisc of our era.
I don't see my mom ever buying one.
eerik9000
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Yes. Take a look at Mad Max: Fury Road listed in the article for instance.
This is what's listed in IMDb under technical specs:
Cinematographic Process
ARRIRAW (2.8K) (source format)
ProRes 4:2:2 (1080p/24) (source format)
Digital Intermediate (2K) (master format)
Shot at 2.8K and 1080p resolutions, post-produced/mastered in 2K.
4K still isn't the dominant resolution for digital intermediates even in 2015.
Movies shot on film in the last 10-15 years aren't much different case because they're still post-produced digitally.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
wrong thread
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Oh wow. That's quite a letdown. Thanks for the info.
....will they more consistently shoot at 4k from now on....?
I guess the early part of this century will be considered a low point in resolutions, considering 20th century films can scan in at 4k no problem.
Patrick Bateman
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8K on DVD? How long is this movie? 5 minutes?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Of course the joke is that it's still a 480p DVD, just mastered at 8k.
entremet
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Yeah... it seems like this will be the laserdisc of our era.
I don't see my mom ever buying one.
Basically.
I glad it exists for those who enjoy the highest fidelity possible and have those setups to make it work.
Yeah, even The Hobbit movies, which were filmed in 5K, were mastered in 2K (probably way too much processing to do visual effects for a 3D 48fps movie any higher)
wait for an OPPO UHD BD Player, supposedly they will come out late 2016.
eerik9000
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Even movies that are shot digitally at 4K or higher resolutions are mostly finished at lower resolutions. Let's look at some other big films from this year:
Jurassic World
Digital Intermediate (2K) (master format)
Panavision Super 70 (source format) (some scenes)
Redcode RAW (6K) (source format) (some shots)
Super 35 (source format)
Shot on 35mm/75mm film and digitally at 6K. Mastered at 2K resolution.
The Martian
Digital Intermediate (2K) (master format)
H.264 (4K) (source format)
Redcode RAW (6K) (also dual-strip 3-D) (source format)
Shot at 4K and 6K resolutions. Mastered at 2K.
It all comes down to rendering special effects at 4K being much more time and money consuming than at 2K, and every penny counts.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I guess Hollywood has zero incentive to sell new TVs... outside of Sony.
Even then it would take a strong mandate from on high to inflate a movie's budget like that.
entremet
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The individual disks are gonna be the cheapest investment here.
You'll need a 4k TV and 4k BR player too.
After getting those, spending 20 bucks on another BR won't really feel as much.
Yautja_Warrior
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Looking forward to giving my Sony 55X8509C a good workout with UHD blu-ray. Cannot wait for the players to come out now.
Yeah some early releases are newer movies, which have 2k scans (still should look better than 1080p though) but with things like better colours and HDR, along with Dolby Atmos and DTS-X surround sound, it will give an overall better movie experience at home.
Also it's early days, more movies will be released with native 4k scans, newer and older ones, so we can look forward to movies looking even better as time goes on.
Yeah some early releases are newer movies, which have 2k scans (still should look better than 1080p though) but with things like better colours and HDR, along with Dolby Atmos and DTS-X surround sound, it will give an overall better movie experience at home.
Also it's early days, more movies will be released with native 4k scans, newer and older ones, so we can look forward to movies looking even better as time goes on.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Looking forward to this but still no 4K player our there right now. Hopefully by CES.
billy beane
Banned
Can there be actual effort in the box designs for 4K movies? Blu-ray boxes are ugly and uninspired and turned me off hard from collecting them, which in today's world is the only reason to buy physical copies.
Discotheque
Banned
yeah, heart jumped for a second.
If you really think that's the only reason for buying physical copies then why bother buying them?
Sure, if you want to spend around $1K on a player that will display very little, to no benefits on all these 55" or smaller 4K sets.
Lilalaunebaer
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Oh lawd, HDR Mad Max.
Also with them promoting 4k blu-rays with Mad Max and it being nominated for best picture..... we´re getting a sequel. And i will hear none of it from you doubters.
Also with them promoting 4k blu-rays with Mad Max and it being nominated for best picture..... we´re getting a sequel. And i will hear none of it from you doubters.
Yeah it would be pointless because the current digital cinema standard doesn't go any higher than 2K for 48fps 3D.
User 479360
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Makes sense. It'll look beautiful.
They'll do this with a lot of style over substance movies.
They'll do this with a lot of style over substance movies.
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