Warner Bros. Officially confirms "Justice League" to follow MoS Sequel

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Blader said:
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit

I'd link to the tweet itself but I don't know how :lol
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Okay. My interest has peaked now. This is the most positive news to come out yet. I am waiting for a GL announcement. It has to be john Stewart. Please god.

Shooting this back to back makes the extra year this is taking more sensible.


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Snyder is a good director and one of the best in the business when it comes to visuals. These will be beautiful superhero movies guaranteed.
 
Penguin said:
I guess in the back of my head, always going to have the cartoon
And granted, a lot more room to spread

But they were able to introduce Wonder Woman in the pilot without much of an origin and go back to tell her story later on.

And guess not sure why couldn't be replicated here.
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You totally could replicate it. I just think it would be a missed opportunity to firmly establish WW as their third most important character and reestablish the character in the mainstream in a big way. But from a storytelling standpoint, there's no reason you can't write her intro in this movie.
 
Penguin said:
I guess in the back of my head, always going to have the cartoon
And granted, a lot more room to spread

But they were able to introduce Wonder Woman in the pilot without much of an origin and go back to tell her story later on.

And guess not sure why couldn't be replicated here.
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Well, as you say, a single season of a TV series is a lot longer than even two movies.

The JL cartoon was also set in a universe where the existence of all kinds of superheroes, aliens, artifacts, etc. had already been firmly established.
 
Effect said:
I thought that first film was stopped because of the then writers strike. That they would have gone through with it had it not happen as everyone had been cast, costumes made, script was almost finish, etc. The idea of starting off with a huge event and then going to solo or team up films is something they have wanted to do for a while it seems. It's also something that is a DC comics thing. How many times has that happen in the comics?

It's how they've launched their new animated universe with adapting Flashpoint and Justice League: War. What they're doing now sort of patterns things on the direction they went with the original DCAU. Batman show to Superman show to then Superman/Batman team up and then Justice League show. This seems to be the direction Warner Bros and DC are comfortable with as it has worked for them in the past.
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I read the script for the JL movie they were going to do a while back. It's online and was alright.
 
Beaniedude said:
So this hits in 6 years time?
Great. I'll set my alarm for when I am 30.
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Well the article says 2018 (4 years)
Some other reports say 2017 (3 years)
Where do you get the 6 from?

Father_Brain said:
Well, as you say, a single season of a TV series is a lot longer than even two movies.

The JL cartoon was also set in a universe where the existence of all kinds of superheroes, aliens, artifacts, etc. had already been firmly established.
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True
But we already have aliens in this verse.
And Wonder Woman does open up the world of gods and goddess but doesn't mean they need to be in S/B or JLA.
 
ReiGun said:
Of course, it is possible that years of nigh-impenetrable comics continuity have blinded fans to the fact that these characters and concepts are relatively simple (not saying that in a derogatory way, mind you. Superheroes are simple by design; children have to be able to understand them after all) and are pretty easy to explain. Perhaps the movies are just revealing an innate accessibility in these stories that have been lost by the decades of reboots and tie-ins and soap operatic storytelling? I'd like to think so.
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Man nobody wants to hear that shit!

Especially when it sounds really, really true.
 
Penguin said:
But we already have aliens in this verse.
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One alien race, yes, with no established basis for superpowers other than being a member of said alien race. There's also no indication in MoS that costumed superheroes are an existing concept (though the sequel will fudge this a bit with Batman), and Superman arguably doesn't even become one until after the film is over.

Basically, the Snyderverse isn't at a point where they can plausibly introduce a new superpowered character, especially not a costumed one, without making some actual effort to explain his/her origin and backstory, and in WW's case, that's a lot harder to distill down into an expository speech or flashback (which I'm guessing is all it'll get, though I'd love to be wrong) than it would be for, say, the Flash.
 
Father_Brain said:
One alien race, yes, with no established basis for superpowers other than being a member of said alien race. There's also no indication in MoS that costumed superheroes are an existing concept (though the sequel will fudge this a bit with Batman), and Superman arguably doesn't even become one until after the film is over.

Basically, the Snyderverse isn't at a point where they can plausibly introduce a new superpowered character, especially not a costumed one, without making some actual effort to explain his/her origin and backstory, and in WW's case, that's a lot harder to distill down into an expository speech or flashback (which I'm guessing is all it'll get, though I'd love to be wrong) than it would be for, say, the Flash.
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All valid points
Which is why guess going to try and use S/B as a bridge. And goes back to your skepticism.
Which like I said I get.

Since you aren't just saying "It should be like Marvel!"

On the same note, and for personal research, can folks recommend some Wonder Woman comics to check out?

I honestly mostly know her from the cartoons, the movie and a bit of the TV show.
I've read some of her new 52 run, and a few years back when she had a talking cat.
 
The first JL movie was shelved partly because of Nolan. He was busy with TDK and did not want any part of a expanded universe mixing with his grounded in reality Batman take.

WB obliged.

This whole idea that WB fucked is beyond ridiculous since people seem to only be concerned with the BO return.

What difference does it make to you, the fan, if JL makes as much, less than, or more than the Avengers? Does it speak to the quality of the movie? All the conversation seems to be based on it will be a disaster and not pull off what the Avengers did. Last I checked while Avengers was fun, it wasn't some ground breaking movie when it came to anything. Effect, story telling, the actual script, or the action. It was all done really well and it was a fun summer movie but the only remarkeble thing about it was how it shattered everyone expectation at the BO.

But why should that concern the fans? Avengers also wasn't the first team up movie to work. It wasn't the first anything. We have had the XMEN (3 movies of them!) before. And even GAF was extremely skeptical of Whedon and Avengers working. All the solo movies leading up to Avengers, which now WB has to follow step for step, were nothing remarkable outside of Iron Man 1. The Hulk was recast (again).

I would even venture out and say the Avengers would have been a smash hit (financially) no matter what. Maybe not the billion plus, because obviously the solo movies and connected universe helped, but we are in an era where superhero movies are so in that they all make a great profit. MoS made 600+ which back in the day would be considered out of this world amazing but now somehow internet nerds use as "evidence" that MoS "failed". Transformers movies do so well at the box office that despite total critical failures we are about to get part 4. Look at the Fast and Furious series. The international audience doesn't care about the things which critics nitpick apart. These movies are thriving thanks to the domestic and worldwide demand for big time summer superhero movie.

But again all this back and forth is like arguing for console wars and which corporation makes more money. Why should we care? If they make a great MoS sequel with Batman plus others, why would it matter to me if it makes say 900 million instead of a billion? I just want a good movie. Not some DC v Marvel fanboy war.
 
sweetvar26 said:
Just need a good script and director. Casting is fine with Green Lantern, they should bring him in Justice League and perhaps do more after.
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The only reason I'd say no is that the Green Lantern movie should be considered canon by no one. Reynolds was a perfectly fine Hal, but to have to acknowledge that movie again would just be bad.
 
They already have 4 heroes for JL. Batman, Superman, WW and Cyborg. I don't think they should go above 6 or 7. I wonder who they'll pick for the last 2 or 3 members.
 
Father_Brain said:
One alien race, yes, with no established basis for superpowers other than being a member of said alien race. There's also no indication in MoS that costumed superheroes are an existing concept (though the sequel will fudge this a bit with Batman), and Superman arguably doesn't even become one until after the film is over.

Basically, the Snyderverse isn't at a point where they can plausibly introduce a new superpowered character, especially not a costumed one, without making some actual effort to explain his/her origin and backstory, and in WW's case, that's a lot harder to distill down into an expository speech or flashback (which I'm guessing is all it'll get, though I'd love to be wrong) than it would be for, say, the Flash.
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Maybe her backstory won't be like it is in the comics? She'll be introduced as Bruce Wayne's girlfriend and be somehow tied to Kryptonians. There's that. No big whoop.
 
ryan299 said:
They already have 4 heroes for JL. Batman, Superman, WW and Cyborg. I don't think they should go above 6 or 7. I wonder who they'll pick for the last 2 or 3 members.
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It's going to be Flash and GL

Really do seem to be running with the new 52 team
 
ryan299 said:
They already have 4 heroes for JL. Batman, Superman, WW and Cyborg. I don't think they should go above 6 or 7. I wonder who they'll pick for the last 2 or 3 members.
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Flash is a must
Green Lantern (in some fashion) is a must

It's that last spot that'll be up for contention. Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Shazam... all seem possible. The only reason I'd say no to Green Arrow is they're probably to afraid to have comparisons to Hawkeye or to look like they're copying.
 
A lot of people seem to think that Jason Momoa has been cast as either Aquaman or Martian Manhunter.

I can see them waiting on the Flash until the second film to see if the tv show becomes a hit and they can crossover him into the movie.
 
thecouncil said:
Maybe her backstory won't be like it is in the comics? She'll be introduced as Bruce Wayne's girlfriend and be somehow tied to Kryptonians. There's that. No big whoop.
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I think at that point, you've deviated so far from any recognizable aspect of the character that there's no point in calling her Wonder Woman.

Mind you, that might actually work better as far as World's Finest is concerned, especially if they have no intention of making it a Trinity film where Themyscira and/or associated mythological elements play a major role.
 
effzee said:
What difference does it make to you, the fan, if JL makes as much, less than, or more than the Avengers? Does it speak to the quality of the movie? All the conversation seems to be based on it will be a disaster and not pull off what the Avengers did. Last I checked while Avengers was fun, it wasn't some ground breaking movie when it came to anything. Effect, story telling, the actual script, or the action. It was all done really well and it was a fun summer movie but the only remarkeble thing about it was how it shattered everyone expectation at the BO.
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Thank you.

Jesus Christ, you should run for mayor.
 
ryan299 said:
A lot of people seem to think that Jason Momoa has been cast as either Aquaman or Martian Manhunter.

I can see them waiting on the Flash until the second film to see if the tv show becomes a hit and they can crossover him into the movie.
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Flash is the one member where I think they're going to wait until they see how the TV series goes. Hell he might even be off the table completely once they decided to go ahead with the TV show. Same reason why Green Arrow is off the table.

If that's the case then you need a speedster. There are other options they can pick from. They might have to mine the Justice Society (Jesse Quick/Liberty Belle) or go for a lower tier Justice League member. I think Green Lantern might be off the table unless they're ready to relaunch the Green Lantern franchise.

Honestly if I had to pick I'd want the following line up.

Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Cyborg, Aquaman (I want Kaldur Aqualad to tag along), Blue Beetle (the Scarb would be interesting to mess around with. The Jamie version to have more diversity), and Vixen (to have another woman on the team and to cover a wide varity of powers).
 
Effect said:
Flash is the one member where I think they're going to wait until they see how the TV series goes. Hell he might even be off the table completely once they decided to go ahead with the TV show. Same reason why Green Arrow is off the table.

If that's the case then you need a speedster. There are other options they can pick from. They might have to mine the Justice Society (Jesse Quick/Liberty Belle) or go for a lower tier Justice League member. I think Green Lantern might be off the table unless they're ready to relaunch the Green Lantern franchise.

Honestly if I had to pick I'd want the following line up.

Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Cyborg, Aquaman (I want Kaldur Aqualad to tag along), Blue Beetle (the Scarb would be interesting to mess around with. The Jamie version to have more diversity), and Vixen (to have another woman on the team and to cover a wide varity of powers).
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One article I read, speculated that WB could create two universes, two Justice Leagues. One in film and one in tv. Essentially there could be two Flash.
 
Knowing nothing about Green Lantern, would people consider John Stewart more the official GL than Hal Jordan? At least if that's the case, they could make a clean break from the awful GL movie with a different character.
 
IDK, I always thought Cyborg was pretty lame.

mattiewheels said:
Knowing nothing about Green Lantern, would people consider John Stewart more of the official GL than Hal Jordan? At least if that's the case, they could make a clean break from the awful GL movie with a different character.
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As much as it would be nice if it wasn't the case, I think John gets ranked below every other Green Lantern in terms of attention from DC. Hal > Kyle = Guy > Alan Scott > John. Out of all of them, there's was a long time (pre-Nu) where every Green Lantern was leading or co-leading a title but John. His run in the Justice League comics was the run that got shit on. But hey, he's got the cartoon cred so who knows. Also I may just be out of the loop. Just hope Johns isn't writing him.
 
Effect said:
Flash is the one member where I think they're going to wait until they see how the TV series goes. Hell he might even be off the table completely once they decided to go ahead with the TV show. Same reason why Green Arrow is off the table.

If that's the case then you need a speedster. There are other options they can pick from. They might have to mine the Justice Society (Jesse Quick/Liberty Belle) or go for a lower tier Justice League member. I think Green Lantern might be off the table unless they're ready to relaunch the Green Lantern franchise.

Honestly if I had to pick I'd want the following line up.

Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Cyborg, Aquaman (I want Kaldur Aqualad to tag along), Blue Beetle (the Scarb would be interesting to mess around with. The Jamie version to have more diversity), and Vixen (to have another woman on the team and to cover a wide varity of powers).
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Unless the Green Lantern character is a breakout hit once Justice League comes out, I can't imagine they'll do much with him in terms of solo movies again. But I'm totally betting he's part of the crew.

mattiewheels said:
Knowing nothing about Green Lantern, would people consider John Stewart more the official GL than Hal Jordan? At least if that's the case, they could make a clean break from the awful GL movie with a different character.
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Only people that only know the Justice League cartoon. John Stewart has totally been part of the JL though, so if they want to go that route, they can. But Hal is the classic version.
 
So when in the hell am I gonna get my standalone Batman flick? MoS, then Justice League, then a Batman flick like 3 years after that? That's if they just don't jump into a JL sequel. I don't care about those other chump heroes. Gimme the Bat and his expanded universe, god damnit!
 
Is this really the Justice League or Superman/Batman and Friends? One thing Marvel did well was have most of the Avengers have their own movie to establish their characters. While I loved X2, it was basically Wolvie and Friends which was annoying. I hope the Justice League doesn't feel the same way.
 
DonDraper said:
So when in the hell am I gonna get my standalone Batman flick? MoS, then Justice League, then a Batman flick like 3 years after that? That's if they just don't jump into a JL sequel. I don't care about those other chump heroes. Gimme the Bat and his expanded universe, god damnit!
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Probably after Justice League. If this is an older Batman, they could probably do an Under the Red Hood adaptation.

BobbyRoberts said:
I want Guy Gardner JUST to have someone who does nothing but fuck with Batman all movie long.
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And at the end of the movie, Batman says "fuck this" and quits the Justice League to start the Outsiders, and Guy has this moment
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effzee said:
What difference does it make to you, the fan, if JL makes as much, less than, or more than the Avengers? Does it speak to the quality of the movie? All the conversation seems to be based on it will be a disaster and not pull off what the Avengers did. Last I checked while Avengers was fun, it wasn't some ground breaking movie when it came to anything. Effect, story telling, the actual script, or the action. It was all done really well and it was a fun summer movie but the only remarkeble thing about it was how it shattered everyone expectation at the BO.
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Who exactly are you responding to here? I reread the last few pages, and while there's of course a lot of comparison to Marvel Studios films going on, no one seems particularly focused on how Justice League fares at the box office versus Avengers 3 or whatever Marvel is putting out that year.
 
DonDraper said:
So when in the hell am I gonna get my standalone Batman flick? MoS, then Justice League, then a Batman flick like 3 years after that? That's if they just don't jump into a JL sequel. I don't care about those other chump heroes. Gimme the Bat and his expanded universe, god damnit!
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Whenever it is, I just hope Affleck is allowed to direct it instead of Snyder.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
I want Guy Gardner JUST to have someone who does nothing but fuck with Batman all movie long.
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I was just watching the 22 Jump Street trailer, and I know this sounds a little crazy, but I feel like Channing Tatum would be a fantastic Guy Gardner.
 
odiin said:
I was just watching the 22 Jump Street trailer, and I know this sounds a little crazy, but I feel like Channing Tatum would be a fantastic Guy Gardner.
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You're not wrong

Also, while I've never seen the show (because it looks fucking abysmal), that really douchey-looking dude from Blue Mountain State would probably be a good Guy Gardener too.
 
ryan299 said:
They already have 4 heroes for JL. Batman, Superman, WW and Cyborg. I don't think they should go above 6 or 7. I wonder who they'll pick for the last 2 or 3 members.
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Since Cyborg is on the team, it's pretty clear they're going for the New 52 lineup. Which also means Flash, GL, and Aquaman.
 
Wall Street Journal

Warner has now entrusted its core superheroes to "Man of Steel" director Zack Snyder, who will helm "Superman vs. Batman" and then "Justice League." It also has nine other movies based on DC comics in development.
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Nine movies in the pipeline other than BvS and Justice League... Have at it.
 
BadAss2961 said:
Wall Street Journal



Nine movies in the pipeline other than BvS and Justice League... Have at it.
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"In development" means very little, and I assume that nine-film count include films based on Vertigo properties and not just DCU ones (since this is a companion article to the piece in the OP, which lists 100 Bullets and Fables alongside Metal Men and Shazam! as projects in development).
 
BadAss2961 said:
Wall Street Journal



Nine movies in the pipeline other than BvS and Justice League... Have at it.
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"DC Comics" doesn't necessarily mean part of the DC universe like Wonder Woman, Batman etc. Fables, 100 Bullets, etc. could also count. And "in-development" can mean anything. They could've brought it up in a meeting and said "We should probably do something with that" and have no progress past that.
 
Father_Brain said:
"In development" means very little, and I assume that nine-film count include films based on Vertigo properties and not just DCU ones (since this is a companion article to the piece in the OP, which lists 100 Bullets and Fables alongside Metal Men and Shazam! as projects in development).
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Shaanyboi said:
"DC Comics" doesn't necessarily mean part of the DC universe like Wonder Woman, Batman etc. Fables, 100 Bullets, etc. could also count. And "in-development" can mean anything. They could've brought it up in a meeting and said "We should probably do something with that" and have no progress past that.
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Understood.

But nine movies is still a lot, and it's fun to speculate on what they could possibly be.
 
Loxley said:
He also wrote Dollhouse and Serenity, let's not bring back this falsehood that everything Whedon touches turns to gold. We have no idea what his Wonder Woman film would have looked like.
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Man Whedon scripts suck. I've never enjoyed a show from him or a movie

Not that goyer's that much better but at least he gets paired up with better writers from time to time
 
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