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[ZombieSupaStar]

The Kurt Cobain
MURDER INVESTIGATION

Interesting

Kurt was in the process of leaving Seattle and his wife Courtney, when he was found dead.

Courtney knew Kurt wanted out of the marriage. Just weeks prior to his death, she asked one of her attorneys to get the "meanest, most vicious divorce lawyer" she could find.
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One of Kurt's credit cards was missing when his body was discovered.

Someone was attempting to use the missing credit card after Cobain died, but the attempts stopped when his body was discovered.

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1. If Cobain injected himself with a deliberate heroin overdose, why would he ALSO shoot himself in the head with a shotgun, leaving his baby daughter - the love of his life - with horrific visual images to remember him by? Why not just "go to sleep" on the overdose and never wake up?

2. IF Cobain injected three times a lethal dose of heroin, COULD he then pick up a shotgun and shoot himself? Wouldn't he have been immediately incapacitated?

Based on the heroin, (morphine), blood levels found in Cobain's body, preliminary research indicates Kurt Cobain would have been immediately incapacitated. He could not have picked up that shotgun. He could not have pulled that trigger!

 

[worldrunover]

Wouldn't they have found, you know, fingerprints or something?

A better question is, wouldn't they have raised this question like, ten years ago.

Another conspiracy theory, methinks.

 

[Flizzzipper]

The question was raised immediatly after by Tom Grant. Not that I believe him but it's pretty interesting waste of time to read up on during those nights when you've discovered the end of the internet.

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

Watch this movie sometime:

Raises some interesting questions. El Duce!

 

[MVS]

Wouldn't they have found, you know, fingerprints or something?

A better question is, wouldn't they have raised this question like, ten years ago.

Another conspiracy theory, methinks.

Nope. There were no fingerprints on the shotgun, nor the 1 spent and 2 remaining shells inside it. There were also no fingerprints on any of the drug kit he allegedly used to shoot up that triple lethal dose of smack, nor did he leave out his ID to be 'identified easier' nor barracde himself in the room.

Questions were asked 10 years ago, right when the Seattle PD refused to do their job correctly and completely botched the thing, giving that no-talent slut a meal ticket for life.

 

[Star Power]

Even if he was murdered, Courtney couldn't have done it herself, because she was in fucking LA at the time. She could have gotten someone to kill him, but she still probably wouldn't have been found out.. so all you fucking dumbasses should shut the fuck up already, and quit hating Courtney for no particular reason. It isn't farfetched to think Kurdt killed himself. He was a suicidal addict. A talented suicidal addict? Yes. But a suicidal addict nonetheless. And why would she kill him anyway? It makes no sense. This theory makes much more sense: http://www.sonicyouth.com/bboard/fa...&topic=what+REALLY+happened+to+Kurt+Cobain...

Plus, this was 10 years ago. I mean, really, what's the use? We all miss Kurdt and his music, but really, there's nothing we can do about it. Bitching over it and pointing the finger can't change anything.

 

[MVS]

Even if he was murdered, Courtney couldn't have done it herself, because she was in fucking LA at the time. She could have gotten someone to kill him, but she still probably wouldn't have been found out.. so all you fucking dumbasses should shut the fuck up already, and quit hating Courtney for no particular reason. It isn't farfetched to think Kurdt killed himself. He was a suicidal addict. A talented suicidal addict? Yes. But a suicidal addict nonetheless.

It's not farfetched at all. It's possible, but Police don't investiage 'possible'. They collect evidence, analyze it, then form a conclusion based on likelihood. They don't start with the conclusion, then find evidence to support it.

Just like you don't read a letter written in 2 different handwritings, where the first part reads exactly like a retirement letter, then the last lines seem to vaguely allude to suicide and call that a suicide within 10 minutes.

Courtney Love has 0 talent. Live Through This, the only decent Hole CD was likely written mostly by Kurt Cobain, she can't act beyond getting priase for playing a 'drugged out turbo slut' which is a far stretch from the 'drugged out turbo slut' she is. It's not a question of hating her for no reason, it's a question of no reason to like her. Given the Rome Incident a month before, and that she was the main person to benifit from not having an impending divorce and modification of his Will, she would be the main suspect in a murder invesitigation.

Hiring someone to kill someone still = murderer, last time I checked.

 

[Star Power]

Hiring someone to kill someone still = murderer, last time I checked.

Well, duh.. but I'm not suggesting that's what happened. I'm saying that it is not possible that courtney herself killed Kurdt, because she was not even in the same state at the time.

 

[MVS]

Well, duh.. but I'm not suggesting that's what happened. I'm saying that it is not possible that courtney herself killed Kurdt, because she was not even in the same state at the time.

Where was she again?

In Beverly Hills calling 911 to report a fake crime to create an alabi. Oh yeah...

I never said it was possible that she directly killed the man and pulled the trigger, only that she has the most to gain from his death and, given that it was long established that she was a liar (a fact known to the Seattle PD), she shouldn't be trusted.

His name was Kurt. Not Kurdt.

So Kurt is itching to score and calls up his best friend Dylan Carlson, whom he regularly used with. Dylan meets kurt at the Seatle house, where they used to hang out above the garage. Dylan comes, gets some cash and goes to score. They might have even shot up a bit, but as Dylan was quoted saying before "Kurt liked to do way too much", and so perhaps when Dylan stepped out to get something like some smokes, Kurt shot up again.

So this is the "Dude, I need some smack right now and, oh yeah, let's go by the gun store so I can buy a shotgun and some ammo for no particular reason at all, I just want to have it there incase there would be need for a shotgun" part of the theory?

The SPD reported finding TWO fresh needle marks in Kurt's arm. Dylan comes back, finds Kurt's body, covered in vomit, and panics.

Just as likely he shot up one time with a non-lethal dose, someone shot him up with another dose afterwards.

He sees a note, half finished, that reads like a diary entry rather then a suicide note, ranting about depression and bullshit really. So he finishs the note to read like a suicide note, saying goodbye to Courtney and blah blah.

Why? Does a method of suicide somehow ease the families mind? "Yeah, he shot himself but at least he didn't use smack and kill himself, even though an autopsy will reveal massive amounts of smack in him, thank god. Hmmm...I better shoot him with this shotgun that I just bought for him in my name, so that it doesn't look bad..."

Yeah...

Within 10 minutes, he was dead, as is the time it takes for an overdose to kill. Dylan comes back, finds the mess, and panics. He reads the note, remembers what he and Kurt had probably been talking about (ie the guilt of heroin addiction) and decides that Kurt can't go out as a junkie.

Yes, because Junkie + Shotgun Suicide > Junkie Suicide...

Bang, no head and Dylan disappears.

He didn't have 'no head'. The top of his head was blown out, but he was easily recognised when he was dead.

I have read the essay "Dead Mean Don't Pull Triggers", which in fact makes too many assumptions. I have also read an extremely good rebuttal (http://www.curmudgeon.fl.net.au/rebuttal.htm), but what i said above is a combination of both. I think it is safe to assume that Kurt's blood concentration was 1.52mg/l. I also think that he didn't die within 30 seconds, making it impossible to shoot himself.

Good, because he has to shoot up, wipe the junk clean, put that away, then proceed to shoot himself with a gun and leave no prints, which, isn't going to happen in 30 seconds.

But, i don't think that he would shoot up a large amount (which is safe to assume with 1.52 mg/l) and then decide to kill himself with a shotgun. Most people messy suicides, and most heroin addicts don't kill themselves with guns at all. It would be far more logical to assume he would kill himself via overdose, i know i would if i was a suicidal heroin addict. Further, I don't think he was suicidal at all. And the facts about the gun remain, no prints and shot in the mouth. This is just my opinion, but i have been working on it for a few years now, researching all angles. I am positive, that he died of an overdose from Heroin. With that, someone else must have shot him. Who that is i can only speculate. Heroin aside the death looked like fowl play with the gun situation and the so-called note. A good patholigists would have concluded that.

Just as likely he wasn't dead from a first needle, was meerly out of it as most smackheads are, was given a 2nd shot then shot with a shotgun. All in the name of making him not look like he died only via smack...

GG.

 

[dskillzhtown]

Well, duh.. but I'm not suggesting that's what happened. I'm saying that it is not possible that courtney herself killed Kurdt, because she was not even in the same state at the time.

How does that make her not responsible? I mean, you are giving a possible way she was involved in your post. I have been on in a jury in a murder trial. I have read the evidence from both sides. People claiming Court was involved, people claiming she wasn't, but one constant is the sloppy work by the Seattle PD. If something other than a suicide happened, I don't think Seattle PD was interested in doing the work to find out.

 

[Dilbert]

Some of you people need new hobbies.

 

[Star Power]

Actually, his name WAS Kurdt. He was born Kurdt Kobain.

 

[MVS]

Actually, his name WAS Kurdt. He was born Kurdt Kobain.

You might want to contact IMDB then, and correct them.

Biography for
Kurt Cobain

Birth name
Kurt Donald Cobain

Height
5' 7" (1.70 m)

 

[Unresponsive Bee Victim]

Actually, his name WAS Kurdt. He was born Kurdt Kobain.

His name wasn't really Kurdt, he liked to change the spelling in sound of his name around, much like Shakespear. I forgot what its called when you od that alot, but in his journal that was published recently there is a passage about how he didn't want to die and how he wanted too keep living for his daughter Frances Bean Cobain.

 

[pestul]

He's not coming back guys..

 

[speedpop]

Shakespeare was also a snorter too. True

Anyway I've always had the feeling that Courtney was behind it all, whether or not it will bring Kurt back (not like I care, I was never a huge Nirvana fan).

 

[MVS]

He's not coming back guys..

Someone say he was?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

he changed his name to Kurdt when Nirvana first formed. I believe he's even credited as "Kurdt" on bleach.

He was also a depressed, suicidal junkie. He killed himself. Get over it folks.

 

[MrPing1000]

Actually, his name WAS Kurdt. He was born Kurdt Kobain.

erm wasn't that just a joke for the back of bleach

 

[karasu]

If he killed himself I doubt he'd wipe the fucking gun for fingerprints. :lol

 

[Particle Physicist]

If he killed himself I doubt he'd wipe the fucking gun for fingerprints. :lol

he used gloves and then took them off after he shot himself in the head.

DUH.

 

[element]

there used to be an awful public access show called 'Kurt Cobain was Murdered' and had this wakco talking about how Courtney killed him and he would hunt down and pester all the members of Nirvana, like Kris Novoselic, even getting in a fight with him.

 

[Star Power]

You might want to contact IMDB then, and correct them.

Biography for
Kurt Cobain

Birth name
Kurt Donald Cobain

Height
5' 7" (1.70 m)

I might. *rolleyes*


No need for you to be such a dick, really.

 

[Ramirez]

I just wanna know what dude ever saw in Courtney Love,blech.

 

[MVS]

Suckubus. That's the only explanation.

 

[LakeEarth]

No need for you to be such a dick, really.

There's tons of need. Welcome to GA!

 

[Star Power]

There's tons of need. Welcome to GA!

Nice avatar. The "Just" video is amazing <3

 

[Ecrofirt]

He's alive and well and he visits the forum!

 

[Ristamar]

He's alive and well and he visits the forum!

I'll have to ask for his autograph sometime...