An hour? They've 33 days remaining, this thing will probably hit like 1.5 mill, 2 if people are really coming out of the RPG woodwork for it.
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Wasteland 2 Kickstarter project by inXile entertainment [Ended, $3 Million Funded]
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An hour? They've 33 days remaining, this thing will probably hit like 1.5 mill, 2 if people are really coming out of the RPG woodwork for it.
The game really needs to hit 1.5 million though - my worry is that $900,000, or even $1.5 mil, isn't going to be enough to make a game of this scope.
I think the idea of having isometric turn-based combat with large animated portraits is fantastic - but it would really need voice-overs to make it that much more immersive. And that's gonna be expensive...
I think the idea of having isometric turn-based combat with large animated portraits is fantastic - but it would really need voice-overs to make it that much more immersive. And that's gonna be expensive...
To reach their goal which was 900k. Everything else now is just for much better product.
Also from the kickstarter page:
"Shut up and take my money!" - Eurogamer reader Arcam (amongst many others)
:lol
I heard somewhere that they'd rather use less voice acting if it meant more dialogue overall
No, for the quests of course it would be mostly text. But VO for the combat will be good - it gives the characters and the enemies personalities. Thank Jagged Alliance - that did it perfectly.
Anticitizen One
Banned
They should remake wasteland 1 before they make a sequel especially if the story picks up from where the last one left off. I bet at least 50% of people here haven't and won't be able to play the first
Ultimadrago
Member
Congrats Fargo, I'm looking forward to hearing updates!
No, they shouldn't. There's no need to.
Or they could just get Wasteland up on GoG no? Although perhaps there would be too much work involved.
I know that same as BG locations. But making asset and making it actual 3D game is quite diffrent.
Game don't need to look better than Fallout. And again budget of making Fallout 1 back then was 3 mln$ and that was back then bloody high tec like Crysis was in 2007.
Yes i know "inflation" But even considering that still with today computers and design development game could be done on a lot less than 2-3mln.
I don't want to derail thread so i stop about this 3dvs2d thing. 2D RPG is cheaper imo and noone will change my mind.
Uh... it's not an opinion that it's cheaper, it's just incorrect.
Can't. No rights.
They can, fargo said that. He owns IP now.
The_Player
Member
And on Steam. Free-to-play. Since they have plans to release close beta on it.
Okay so basically you have no idea what you're talking about and you're not interested in learning anything or being corrected in your way of thinking. Gotcha.
Wrong again. You just love being wrong.
He's not wrong, it's just his opinion.
Can't. No rights.
Interesting, so I guess purchasing the IP from EA was just the name alone rather than the original game as well. A shame, but oh well.
The_Player
Member
It looks more like a statement.
A Black Falcon
Member
Not just more dialog, but more choices -- if you want to have as much choice as they want to do here, and have a lot of voice acting, either you need a LOT more voice work, or you need to give up on having as much voice acting. It seems the majority opinion among fans is towards the latter. The same applies to cutscenes, but even stronger; read the RPS interview, he talks about it. And it makes sense -- indeed, if you want to have a lot of choices with real consequences, how could you have the game with lots of voice acting or a bunch of cutscenes? Every bit of that would either limit what you can do in terms of choice, or force you to do huge amounts of extra work to account for all possibilities.
To explain, if you've missed the numerous other explanations on this point, Brian Fargo owns the rights to a new title, but EA published the original game for Interplay and still has some rights to that. And they're not letting him re-release it.
It's like Mass Effect. Bioware/EA owns the IP, but they couldn't put ME1 on PS3.
MrCunningham
Member
Didn't he just say on his blog that he can't? Brian Fargo may own the rights to make new Wasteland games, but he doesn't own the rights to the original Wasteland game code or game. EA owns that (I think?)
Though would it really kill EA to put the original game on Origin for free? What do they have to lose? The game would be less than 10 MB packaged with DosBOX.
He all stated 2D games are cheaper than 3D ones and then called it his opinion.
Wrong again. You just love being wrong.
Wait why ? He own the IP ? Or he didn't bought whole ip just rights for making wasteland 2 ? That's sad.
Anyway, yay for 900k. 1,5 mln$ will be funded easly.
To clarify, I only want the VO for the combat part - a la Jagged Alliance. Not for the quest, plot etc. What is great about the original Wasteland was the quirky personalities you meet. VO during combat (and animated portraits) would help this aspect greatly. It worked really well on Jagged Alliance IMO.
Yeah he has the rights to make more Wasteland games, but he doesn't have the rights to the original Wasteland code and stuff. That is owned by EA. It's pretty sad. If Wasteland 2 takes off, I bet EA will find some way to exploit it by re-releasing Wasteland on GOG or something.
SteveWinwood
Member
I'd probably download origin for the original wasteland...
Fuckin' ea...
Fuckin' ea...
Joseph Merrick
Member
yeah, he owns the ip. but not the the original game itself.
it sounds like inxile are trying to work something out for it. http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36&start=10#p558
The_Player
Member
MrCunningham
Member
Ah, no no. He owns the rights to the franchise. He can make as many sequels as he wants. But the original game is locked up with EA. IP rights can be an incredibly confusing thing.
Anticitizen One
Banned
How is he able to make a sequel to a game he doesn't have the rights to?
Because he has the rights to the sequel.
The_Player
Member
He has rights to the IP, what is enough to make a sequel.
Sentenza
Member
He owns the IP, yes... Which doesn't mean he also owns the rights of the first game.
And in fact he doesn't.
He owns the Wasteland general IP. EA retains the rights to the specific product which is Wasteland 1, including the code which make up the game. I'm sure in theory he could remake Wasteland 1 as Wasteland Reloaded or whatever, as long as he recreates everything from scratch. But that's not very interesting.
I wonder what EA will remake it into. FPS is out. Maybe a F2P game.
MrCunningham
Member
Nevermind, it's been explained already.
Pachterballs
Banned
congrats to Brian + Inxile for Wasteland2.
I am so proud of gamers everywhere. <3
keep going!
I am so proud of gamers everywhere. <3
keep going!
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
He owns the IP though so I'm pretty sure EA wouldn't be able to do that.
They'd have to write a new contract or something I think.
EA might not be able to remake the game. They might only be able to re-release the original game. Not 100% sure on the rights breakdown though, so I could be wrong.
Depends on the rights breakdown. For example, Interplay is able to continue selling the Fallout games they previously published, even though they sold the IP to Bethesda.
SteveWinwood
Member
F2P mmo.
A Black Falcon
Member
Oh, okay, that makes sense then. And yeah, voices in combat are a nice thing to have.
SteveWinwood
Member
Didn't even have to use my ak
ZombieSupaStar
Member
Do they not like money? Or are they just salty they can't do anything with it now, and it seems like there is an audience they missed out on.
Okay so basically you have no idea what you're talking about and you're not interested in learning anything or being corrected in your way of thinking. Gotcha.
No, because i don't want to derail thread. I have my reasons why i think that way, yes i know sprites have their own problems (lack of cutomization for example) but it's not 90' Computers are way more advanced and baked 3D is viable option for many 2D shortcomings Fallout1/2 style. If you want to go more on that subject try to logically present me why there are no games as big as Fallout 2 or Baldurs Gate 2 considering cheap cost of 3D and send me PM. I gladly will take part in that conversation