shadyspace
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So this is literally going to be an OG Fallout game (I know Wasteland came first but wasn't it a menu-based game?)
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Wasteland 2 Kickstarter project by inXile entertainment [Ended, $3 Million Funded]
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Unknown Soldier
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I would love it was the true Fallout 3. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy Bethesda's take on Fallout, because I did, but I want to see the original team revisit Fallout's setting with isometric 3D perspective and stuff.
Pachterballs
Banned
a) not funding a game to be developed
b) funding a prototype to then go to investors
c) then what?
You're giving them money that then profits "investors/publisher" down the line
go read the official thread for this game.
When I was growing up my uncle and grandfather were the only people who I knew that owned PCs. I didn't grow up with pc adventure games or some of the older rpg titles because I had consoles. These were largely the games that those family members had and as a result were very much some of my first experiences with computers in general. Games like these are a direct cause for my love for gaming. I owe these guys my donation.
Wiktor
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I would imagine there's less fatigue for tactical shooters than there is for adventure games and yet Double Fine achieved huge success.
The problem is that the tactical shooter project itself is a lot weirder (in that he isn't financing a game, but prototype) and lacks any real hook. People don't know the guy, he has nothing to show and there's no good IP behind it.
A Kickstarter for Rogue Spear 2 oraz SWAT 5 would do a lot better. Same with Ground branch, because they would have a lot of game to show.
Pachterballs
Banned
they went for a type of adventure game that is no longer being produced/would be funded. Can't wait to see what they produce at the end of it. Hugely excited for it. Something way old school
Wiktor
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Those type of adventure games are still being produced and funded.
People didn't put money on it because that's the type of game they want, they pledged money to have this type of game be made by those particular people. Huge difference.
Oh..and rumors are Tex Murphy guys will go next for Kickstarter
Unknown Soldier
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Oh..and rumors are Tex Murphy guys will go next for Kickstarter
I don't know how that's supposed to work. The Tex Murphy games were big-budget "interactive movie" games in the early CDROM era, Kickstarter isn't for games with $20 million budgets.
Wiktor
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Not all of them were like that. You could just as easily make them in the style of Mean Streets and Martians Memorandum.
Couple years ago, when they were trying to ressurect the IP they wanted to make 3D characters and they ackowledged it would be impossible to do it full FMV these days.
SO yeah, I think they will either make it fully 3D or 3d characters + pre-rendered backgrounds. And then add comic-book Max-Payne style cutscenes if they're short on cash or make few short FMVs (which aren't that expensive as long as they wouldn't go crazy on SFX, look at Casebook series).
I wonder what would happen if someone well-known and trustworthy made an entry that had a relatively high requirement (something like 6 million). We've seen small budgets rise to high levels, but never a high initial request. Will that constant possibility of it not being funded stop that slow period in the middle of the kickstarter and motivate more people to back higher? Having a Kickstarter that actually made use of the full month to fund (both Adventure and Wasteland 2 didn't need more than a week) would be interesting to see. maybe there's more potential to KS than we know, but it's all new territory so we don't know the limits yet.
Wiktor
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WOuld you back really low budget FMV Tex then? Conspiracies II pulled that off pretty damn well and just needed better acting
Look at this for reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxJJHqkz3uI
Altough, honestly. WHen I think about it..3D FPP enviorements plus Fmv actors plastered on them wouldn't be all tha expensive.
Well i am glad the donations are still going on at a decent pace. Almost to 1.3 million now. Should be able to reach 1.5 to 2 million at this rate. Pretty much what some of you guessed.
I said it before, but I am really excited for the precedent this and Double Fine set. Already i have seen rumors of Obsidian doing one some time in the future so that has me hoping its true. Also developers of Age of Decadence another game I have been keeping an eye on dropped a hint they they might do one as well when their demo hits. I will definitely donate to them if it helps that game to actually come out this year.
Exciting times for those of use who would like more complex rpgs to be made.
I said it before, but I am really excited for the precedent this and Double Fine set. Already i have seen rumors of Obsidian doing one some time in the future so that has me hoping its true. Also developers of Age of Decadence another game I have been keeping an eye on dropped a hint they they might do one as well when their demo hits. I will definitely donate to them if it helps that game to actually come out this year.
Exciting times for those of use who would like more complex rpgs to be made.
Wiktor
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I think so.
Sure, but not by much. I mean...the main actor would be doing it for free afterall
That said, I dont think great or even good acting would be suited for Tex. It needs a least some hints of bad acting, otherwise it's just not a Tex game
A Black Falcon
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Yes, it was. 2011 release, too! It is worth saying, though, that it's not just obviously low budget, it's made by a studio in Greece, and the English script is dubbed. They're originally speaking Greek. The original voice acting might be better... The first Conspiracies came with both English and Greek language versions in the box (in the US version too)... not sure about the sequel. Not sure if it even got a US release on that note. I do own the first one though, which is from 2003 or so I believe.
Wiktor
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Casebook got much better reviews, so I think there's still some place for FMV games
DiscoJer
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There was also the relatively recent Dark Star from 2010
http://www.darkstar.gs/home.htm
Never played it, but one of those I was meaning to, because it has some people from MST3K involved.
StoppedInTracks
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Not a chance in hell.
I would pledge only to well known devs and long gone franchises for example Might and Magic, Ultima etc. not to something new (new IP) from Mr Nobody.
I am also wondering if it is possible to kickstart console projects? Nintendo should allow fans to fund the next F-Zero...
Fuck it, upped my pledge to $250. It's nothing compared to years of joy CRPG's have brought me and I don't think I've ever been so genuinely excited over a project as much as this.
I wouldn't like the precedent this would set, especially to the finicky bi-polar publishers (capcom) who seem to falsely blame lack of fan interest as an excuse to cancel projects, I'd rather more operation rainfall style methods of gaining attention, not that I wouldn't welcome a new F-Zero.
I wouldn't like the precedent this would set, especially to the finicky bi-polar publishers (capcom) who seem to falsely blame lack of fan interest as an excuse to cancel projects, I'd rather more operation rainfall style methods of gaining attention, not that I wouldn't welcome a new F-Zero.
The other thing is what exactly happens if he doesn't get investors after he finishes his prototype? Cause people sure as shit aren't getting their money back. It's not like no project has ever fizzled due to lack of interest. 200k is a drop in the bucket for a AAA project like a tactical shooter trying to break into the crowded market would have to be. If people were interested in this, 200k wouldn't be a problem.
CarbonatedFalcon
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So this will play more like Fallout 1/2, rather than the original Wasteland? (I was watching a few videos of the original on YouTube.)
If so, I'll probably chip in $15 as it gets closer or surpasses the 1.5mil mark. Would definitely want this cross-platform.
If so, I'll probably chip in $15 as it gets closer or surpasses the 1.5mil mark. Would definitely want this cross-platform.
Okay, based on what Fargo has said so far I think can be pretty sure about the following:
- Unlike Fallout, you will create a party of Rangers instead of just one guy.
- You control the entire party, and you can split them up around the map, like in Fallout 1/2.
- It will probably be isometric, and at least LOOK like Fallout 1/2.
Beyond that, the game might not play a lot like Fallout, so temper your expectations. The interface will certainly be a lot like Fallout 1/2, but Wasteland must be Wasteland! There will be those of us who will fight to the death after this is funded to make our voices heard.
Yes. In all likelihood, by the end of next year, we'll all be playing Wasteland 2.
sounds like baldurs gate in fallout world then? if so, im in
No. It's Wasteland. Not Fallout. It's also turn based.
Beautifully Shaped Monsters
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Unknown Soldier
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It was. They were at 9, now they have 10.
Pachterballs
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Wooo! 1.31 million!!
I dunno bout getting delayed that long. With that said if they don't announce a delay of at least a few months I will be surprised.
I dunno of they can do a deep rpg like they are promising by the deadline they have. Though I guess it all really depends on exactly how high they are aiming with the production values.
Pachterballs
Banned
Nintendo has so much money they should do a minimum of 2 "beloved" "charity project" per year. give back to the fans. The cost of making those games+risk would be remediated by the interest they get from their cash reserve anyway. They just don't give a shit.
Pachterballs
Banned
They should already start working on the scenario+ground stuff now. The money's going to happen. BF is probably tabling with his team what to do next etc - script/scenario/mechanics - his pitch did seemingly involve a lot of forethought if he tried to table this to publishers so with any luck; It would not have to be delayed.
Pachterballs
Banned
they have acces to UE3.
Yeah, but what he has done is the easy stuff. It is the stuff his team has coming up that makes or breaks hitting the deadline. Making the actual game is what will cause unexpected delays while bugs are found and fix and so on.
I mean I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he will hit that date he set here. He has made or been a part of developing more games then i ever will. So I assume an industry veteran like him has factored that stuff in to his release date. Just saying I fully expect a delay not that I would mind one if it happens I just expect one.
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Pachterballs
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in reference to the fallout 1+2 engine; I'm guessing EA has the rights?
in reference to fallout tactics engine - that was microforte in australia. probably also EA?
so Inxile will probably have to built something from scratch for the game. UE3 is for graphics.
but we're talking wasteland; not fallout
in reference to fallout tactics engine - that was microforte in australia. probably also EA?
so Inxile will probably have to built something from scratch for the game. UE3 is for graphics.
but we're talking wasteland; not fallout
StoppedInTracks
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Only 200k to go!!!
Woo!
Woo!
Pachterballs
Banned
someone should go post links to the WL KS campaign on macrumours/mac-centric forums to push it up past 1.5million.
WorstUsernameEver
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Wait, why would EA have the rights to the engine of the original games? (Not that I'd want inXile to use it anyway, I have no nostalgic attachment to game engines.)
Unknown Soldier
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UE3 is a complete middleware engine, you can have graphics, sound, physics, character animations, basic AI behavior, multiplayer framework, server and client network code, and other things too just from the engine package you license.
Of course for the purposes of an RPG you need to create the stats and combat engine but most of the hard engine work is done if you license UE3.
and their artists + coders have experience with it, so development pipeline is ready. They even built random level generator for UE3 while Firaxis weren't able to produce it.