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Wasteland 2 Kickstarter project by inXile entertainment [Ended, $3 Million Funded]
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Sentenza
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He needs to throw a bone to the fans, some new video showing off something, more concept art, detailed features list, mock-up screenshots, etc...
In short, he needs to post anything to get more press coverage.
Did the main graph lose hourly tracking between the 15th and the 17th? There's a part where it flatlines and then jumps after that.
Yeah I agree that Fargo probably needs to show something. It's still on track to hit 2 million but WL2 seems to be losing significant mind share after the initial burst of excitement. Double Fine managed to keep the hype fairly steady with video updates and new tier rewards throughout DFA's run.
The $2,500 tier is also still not exactly lighting the world on fire. Perhaps they should have consolidated it with the $1,000 tier back when $2.5k had no takers.
The $2,500 tier is also still not exactly lighting the world on fire. Perhaps they should have consolidated it with the $1,000 tier back when $2.5k had no takers.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I will throw down an extra $100 bucks if they promise to give us a real ending to the game.
Yeah, I noticed that and was wondering about that myself. At first I thought that it might be that they added an incentive that caused an increase after a relative lull. But a lull wouldn't be a strait line like that. A slowdown still should have shown some movement in the numbers.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Lol. My new hero.
As it says on the site:
That shelf is before the green line, so I guess they didn't have data for that region.
Also, we're almost at 1.4M, we're definitely getting a Linux/MacOS version! I hope we do start to see some design documents/art even if it's really early concept stuff.
Ah okay. Didn't see that. Thanks.
Pachterballs
Banned
postively crawling. You'd think it'd be at 1.4 already.
$1,399,294
$1,399,294
Pachterballs
Banned
Yup! 100k to mac+linux (not that i care) but yeah. Yeah, brian really needs to do more to fuel the KS. I'd like to know he was doing something concrete instead of just interviews. He put russian subtitles in the KS pitch but that's been it. :/
If he's already been pitching WL2 to publisher I want to:
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Sentenza
Gold Member
Yeah, I'm actually far more interested in what could come after that threshold (bigger world, more content, better production value).
StoppedInTracks
Member
It really slowed down. I can see it having troubles hitting 2 millions now.
Why didn't they update the page with any new info? No videos at all? Fargo is giving interviews all around the web but this is not enough.
Update the page damnit!
Why didn't they update the page with any new info? No videos at all? Fargo is giving interviews all around the web but this is not enough.
Update the page damnit!
MrCunningham
Member
I've been using Linux as my OS of choice for almost a decade now (currently using Mint) and I don't really care if we see a Linux build either. I run most of my games under Wine anyway, and if I really need too (which I rarely ever do)....I just use Windows in virtualization. I can definitely understand the need for making a native Mac version, but a Linux build shouldn't really be a high priority.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like Wasteland pledger's are on average more generous than the people who've pledged to the Doublefine kickstarter. 87 thousand backers at 3,3 million vs 26 thousand backers at 1,4 million. The Wasteland fanbase is obviously smaller but more dedicated to fund this project.
Though I agree, Mr. Fargo needs to put out a few more videos and promotional stuff to get more peoples attention before things trail off to far.
Minsc
Gold Member
I noticed this right away when the Wasteland 2 tiers were submitted, but if you compare the limited rewards, DFA (which sold out of all limited tiers, fairly fast iirc) totaled $415,000, while Wasteland 2's limited tiers total $1,210,000, around 3x more. They're both in line with their respective goals, W2's goal being 2-3x higher than DFA's thus also having more limited rewards. So I think that's a part of the reason for the difference, given all limited rewards start at $250 and up for both kickstarters. I'm sure as you say the fanbase is highly dedicated, but DFA just couldn't compete with such a lower # of rewards.
One worry I had early on was that they might have gone *too* comprehensive with tier rewards at the outset. Going a little light early on then placing enticements to upgrade in the tiers just above the most popular ones strikes me as a good way to tempt people into upgrading.
Then again, it's very possible that they've got a bunch of ideas waiting in the wings for precisely that sort of purpose.
MrCunningham
Member
Portugeezer
Member
Mothafuckers better keep on donating, i.e. pre-ordering, i.e. buying the game.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I think it's less about the fanbase and more about releasing a sequel to a known game. DF's game is yet to be seen and we only know the genre. Considering that, $3.45M is a lot! For Wasteland 2, we not only know the genre but the universe and game as well.
Oh and it shouldn't be a problem if things trail off as it's meeting the required funding. I do hope they calculate the cost of making the limited edition packages and are already excluding it from required budget.
bonesmccoy
Banned
That's been my guess all along. With 1.5 million being the last published 'target' it will be hard to motivate fence-sitters beyond that figure, without creating significantly more press and offering more incentives.
Regarding the relative 'silence' of Fargo, it's good to remember that we still have 27 days to go in this campaign. I doubt they had planned to be anywhere near 1.4 million after, what, 7 days in? I'm sure we'll see more reveals, incentives et cetera as we approach the funding date.
This is a good point, but perhaps they still have something up their sleeves. Remains to be seen. I do think they definitely need to be more active even if it's just giving a couple video updates on things.
However we also shouldn't lose sight of the fact that this has already been a great success. Remember that $1.5 million was an idealized amount; Fargo and company were so unsure it would even hit a million that Fargo was willing to throw in the final 100k.
While the WL2 Kickstarter has certainly slowed down majorly, it will certainly hit $1.5 million and if it ends up at "only" 1.8 million or something around there, that will still be a stunning success relative to the original amount they asked for. Not quite Double Fine, but then nothing has been so far. DFA ended up making 834% more than its original figure; it's too much to expect that others will hit similar numbers.
Sentenza
Gold Member
Inspiring stuff.
MightyHedgehog
Member
I like that they've kept the radioactive zones and now they're moving!?! Cool! Should make travel plans through the world map interesting and dangerous when you're wounded, trying to heal up, and battling your way across a large expanse of desert or mountainous terrain. Now you've got to deal with radiation sickness, more mutants, and permadeath.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
This all sounds awesome.
May their budget balloon beyond their wildest expectations.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
1.5 mil is fine....it'll keep 'em honest. 
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The stuff they want to do sounds great.
Pachterballs
Banned
Seemingly added 25k overnight x 26 approx
final tally should be around $2.05 million.
final tally should be around $2.05 million.
I like the sound of that. I think I might up my pledge soon.
The_Player
Member
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Is that official art?
edit: Ah nah I see it's fanart.
edit: Ah nah I see it's fanart.
very nice.
I should be doing hw
Member
Any official art or an indicator of the games visuals at all would go a long way in getting more backers I think. DF somehow got away with that, more 'star' power most likely.
Pachterballs
Banned
this might be the second wave. He's obviously been fielding emails/qns from people with no CC.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Would those donations be tracked on Kickstarter?
DiscoJer
Member
There's another site for fundraising products. "Indie Go Go". They take Paypal. Maybe he's going to start something up there?
PantherAttacks
Member
Maybe it'll speed up a bit when WanderingWind puts in his extra $100.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
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They don't need to do anything. A huge percentage of every kickstarter I've ever followed has raided a TON of dough in the final 24 hrs, completely on its own.
And I've been following Kickstarter since way before Doublefine Adventure.
Wiktor
Member
Yep, especially for projects that were successfuly funded already. People just use it as a chance to pre-order and pay less than the final version will cost at launch.
That said, with more updates they will bring even more money before th final 24 hours start.
Is this going to be open world like the original? Wandering into the monks compound early on and getting utterly destroyed was one of the best things ever. I hope for the same, I loved going back every now and then to have another crack at it.
Also is it going to have factions from the first? The monks would be cool to see again.
Also is it going to have factions from the first? The monks would be cool to see again.
MightyHedgehog
Member
I think it's safe to say that every iconic element from the first will be present in the second. It's just a matter of how well that all plays with all of what most certainly will be a load of Fallout influence and new ideas that the core team has come up with. The thing about WL1, to me, was how varied the missions became, so it all felt just a little experimental but well-designed, yet this new one will seek to refine and evolve that...twenty-five years later. I wonder how much of that will alter the feel, simply because this thinking comes with the benefit of protracted hindsight and all of the possible influences since. Fargo's specifically mentioned the Guardian Citadel in a couple interviews already, so I'm sure we'll see more of that sort of epic challenge for your much higher level party daring you to enter and see how far you can survive. Permadeath really added weight to deciding upon risk and when to run from a fight. It needs to be here, too.