Yep. Thats always been his problem. The fashion world in general is very elitist. Let it go
Watch Kanye West repeatedly get his ass handed to him
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Amentallica
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"I'll take the opportunity to look as stupid as possible."
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Well they have Oliver Rousting of Balmain. He's black.
Byakuya769
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Sucker for love.
It's amazing to me that he thinks he is entitled to a co-sign from one of the fashion houses just because he is Kanye West. Ralph Lauren and them literally started from the bottom. Being the next Ralph or Margiela is a noble goal and I would love to see him do it but that shit wasn't just handed to them by some corporation.
If he wants it he is going to have to put the money up himself, Find investors, or since he is a genius find some creative way to make it happen.
The Interrobanger
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This is dumber than anything Kanye said in this interview, which is a mighty huge feat.
antikythera
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"Ain't nothing real; it's all just iconography that we put a mindset on it."
Semiotics from the semi-coherent
Semiotics from the semi-coherent
Jason's Ultimatum
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If I wore leather pants, I'd have to kick my own ass.
JetBlackPanda
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What in the hell is he talking about.. I am really trying and I can't understand anything he is saying. I know those words.. but they mean nothing.
NipplesAndToes23
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That was funny. WTF happened to the dude since his first album?
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Money.
adversesolutions
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The dumb thing is that there are American brands that have started small but gotten really big. Cole Haans, Tom Ford, Coach
:shudder:. If Kanye took a long-term approach and had patience with it, I'm sure he could achieve what he's going for. The problem is the guy treats his reputation and buzz like a day trader would. He thinks he has to do all kinds of insane shit to stay relevant. Partially that is true of the modern entertainment world. But he should just take the money he's made, invest it, and try to not "need" his public persona anymore. If he could do that he could do more of what he wants to do I imagine.
I think he's just totally glued to not only the rap life in terms of big-arena sold-out shows etc. massive ego shocks, while at the same time being totally fascinated by design, fashion and wealth. You can have both but you have to have stability first so that you can start taking risks. I feel like that's something Kanye can't find for whatever reason.
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
why should he let it go ?
The Driver
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Some of you saying "lol incoherent Kanye" need to watch the full interview for context or better yet watch the Sway interview which was done shortly after this one without someone like Charlegmene trying to purposely trip him up.
Outside of the already popular bit where he unjustifiably snaps at Sway he explains himself a lot better than here. Context is everything especially if he's talking about such insular things like the fashion industry, which doesn't seem important but it is since everyone wears clothes, but then again this is Gaf so I'm not expecting much outside of face value reaction.
Outside of the already popular bit where he unjustifiably snaps at Sway he explains himself a lot better than here. Context is everything especially if he's talking about such insular things like the fashion industry, which doesn't seem important but it is since everyone wears clothes, but then again this is Gaf so I'm not expecting much outside of face value reaction.
This is why I can't feel bad for the guy. He is a bigger drama queen than J.Lo or Madonna. Mathmatically that shouldn't even be possible but Kanye is a genius after all.
Wow. Just wow.
Also, he lost his cool in the sway interview, that shit got ugly.
That was possibly the best part of the interview. Huge burn. "paper office" lol. And "and we gon be listening to Drake"
What has Kanye done to deserve a co-sign from them?
Are they racist? I dunno but guys like Ozwald Boateng have made it work for them
anotherVegan
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$150 plain white t-shirt.
Fashion genius.
Fashion genius.
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
if there is a closed circle of people controlling that industry there maybe nothing he can do to get a cosign. that being said, why should he give up after a few failed attempts ?
Red Liquorice
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He's a gobshite - all you need to do is sit back and he'll show you what a tool he is because he loves the taste of his own verbal diarrhea.
where are Kanye's products bruh? What was the name of the line you spent all that money on? Where your samples? Where your former employees? How come we never heard of your line? I want to see the receipts. Why should he get a co-sign from one of these companies with nothing to show when there are black designers working for these companies he is claiming are racist and already have successful high-end fashion companies.
Messofanego
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The thing is, some of the stuff he says makes me think and is right in some way
But then he wants to tell me that he and Kim don't have enough money to take care of their daughter? Are you fucking crazy? She will probably make enough money alone being the daughter of Kanye and Kim.
And oh man, Kanye West can't articulate his thoughts AT ALL - he says one thing and jumps to another subject in the same fucking sentence and IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE
Sure it's entertaining, but he seems too aggressive to really put out his thoughts in a understandable manner. Charlamagne was so right in the interview, and even though I think that guy is sometimes a douche for whining about Drake, he was so right when he asked him those questions
Man, Kanye - get fucking real again!
But then he wants to tell me that he and Kim don't have enough money to take care of their daughter? Are you fucking crazy? She will probably make enough money alone being the daughter of Kanye and Kim.
And oh man, Kanye West can't articulate his thoughts AT ALL - he says one thing and jumps to another subject in the same fucking sentence and IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE
Sure it's entertaining, but he seems too aggressive to really put out his thoughts in a understandable manner. Charlamagne was so right in the interview, and even though I think that guy is sometimes a douche for whining about Drake, he was so right when he asked him those questions
Man, Kanye - get fucking real again!
NobleGundam
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Dafuq did I just listened to??????
He's lost it. Clearly.
He's lost it. Clearly.
Messofanego
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That sounds very schizophrenic (distorted thoughts, disordered sentences, delusions of grandeur), has he ever been to a therapist?
Kanye is like a freshman that took their first 101 classes in a subject. He can string together some words and it sounds deep, but when you ask him to expand it falls apart.
What the hell are you talking about? If I missed the subtext of his statements while watching the video with no distractions, how are "the people" supposed to get it when they're half-listening on the way to work or school? He's not eloquent or insightful. He made a couple basic points that everyone knows already.
Who am I? I am a person who listens to what he says and judges that he's dumber than me. I don't consider myself particularly smart, so that would make kanye below average.
I absolutely agree that he is great at making music. The other stuff is complete nonsense. Making ugly sneakers is easy. Putting your name on a white t-shirt is easy. Writing god awful booklets is easy. Directing videos and developing marketing campaigns is easy when you surround yourself with experienced people who do the actual work. Not that his videos or marketing campaigns are even good.
Kanye found legitimate success in one profession and then used his name and money to do other things. Doesn't mean he's good at them.
The Driver
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Have you been reading the thread or listening to Kanye homie? You've been focusing a lot on the big luxury brands, admittedly Kanye harps on them a lot as well but it's clear Kanye isn't just talking about getting their approval. If anything he seems to want a company with a even broader reach than a niche of rich people.
As for product,
The Air Yeezys
Also his tour merch.
Also his numerous clothing collabs that have been made fun of in this thread.
All of this stuff has sold out and is pretty coveted. I can get what your saying that those houses don't owe him anything, that's very true, but to say he doesn't show promise or have product is kind of weird.
I actually wanted a Tour Merch shirt but was not paying 40 bucks as it was only printed on hanes instead of American Apparel. $25, yeah sure.
He did two collections of DW. One vastly better than the other but none too great. Their may be black designers behind the scenes but not many on the playing field especially when you use Europe as your ground base. Ozwald like you stated and Oliver like I mentioned before. One part of Agi & Sam is also black.
This Hip-Hop t-shirt fiasco has to stop. People need to familiar themselves with APC pricing. I linked to their sweatshirt page on page 2 of this thread.
He did two collections of DW. One vastly better than the other but none too great. Their may be black designers behind the scenes but not many on the playing field especially when you use Europe as your ground base. Ozwald like you stated and Oliver like I mentioned before. One part of Agi & Sam is also black.
This Hip-Hop t-shirt fiasco has to stop. People need to familiar themselves with APC pricing. I linked to their sweatshirt page on page 2 of this thread.
samus i am
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Just watched the video and I think this is all overblown. He explained his point of view coherently enough. Do I agree with it? Nope, he's definitely out of touch. But I don't think it was the mumblings of a madman or anything.
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entremet
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Not. Not true at all.
Kanye's problem is that he's not dedicated in that field and just wants to wing it cause he's a celebrity. He needs to take a more long term approach and hustle. He's not going make the shows just cause he's a celebrity. That's an American thing, celebrity worship with no credibility in the field. Plus being an attention whore doesn't help his cause. He can easily get in that field if he dedicated himself to.
Kim: Bae, do you love me?
Ye: Look, all I'm saying is you're here every day and you're working you know? And you're working and you keep doing it and it's like one of these days Kim one of these days, you know? Because you're like Marilyn Monroe sometimes you're controversial but without me I don't--without me you've gotta think about that just think right? There's the Ye you know at home and the Ye you know at work and they're in harmony sometimes, they work together and you're working too, but when Nike asked me about my plans and I tell them about my plans with you, you know? They always ask more questions they never leave me alone but that's okay, I've got a love-hate relationship with them and with you it's different, with you mostly you've got it working cuz you're working, but one of these days Kim Marilyn Monroe hard-working black man they keeping me down with the paparazzi and every time my albums drop it's a new struggle together we can do anything we're made for respect with thirty five million gold rings on each hand and we go shopping at Walmart but why you know? One hundred percent.
Kim: I love you too.
Ye: Look, all I'm saying is you're here every day and you're working you know? And you're working and you keep doing it and it's like one of these days Kim one of these days, you know? Because you're like Marilyn Monroe sometimes you're controversial but without me I don't--without me you've gotta think about that just think right? There's the Ye you know at home and the Ye you know at work and they're in harmony sometimes, they work together and you're working too, but when Nike asked me about my plans and I tell them about my plans with you, you know? They always ask more questions they never leave me alone but that's okay, I've got a love-hate relationship with them and with you it's different, with you mostly you've got it working cuz you're working, but one of these days Kim Marilyn Monroe hard-working black man they keeping me down with the paparazzi and every time my albums drop it's a new struggle together we can do anything we're made for respect with thirty five million gold rings on each hand and we go shopping at Walmart but why you know? One hundred percent.
Kim: I love you too.
Thought everyone on the planet knew Michael Jordan.
How about you read my reasoning, and then enlighten me with why he can't be considered as essential to his genre as Beethoven?
And to everyone saying Ye has nothing credible for the fashion industry, take a look at how quickly his shoes sold and how sought after they are.
I get the comparison to Beethoven, but one of them is deaf to how stupid he sounds and the other was just deaf.
And many great artists weren't full of themselves in their time or considered douchebags?
this is small potatoes compared to what guys like Ozwald Boateng and Oliver Rousting were doing before they hooked up with Givenchy and Balmain
That's simply because he is famous. People have died over limited edition sneakers.
Bringing up Beethoven in comparison to Kanye is as dumb as criticizing someone by invoking Hitler.
dehydratedbabies
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Hahahahaha
Beethoven was very influential in symphonic music and Kanye is a big star and has been influential in hip-hop the last 10 years is the main talking point.
How many people are lining up for Rocawear sneakers?
I didn't bring up Beethoven, I'm simply arguing that the comparison isn't so far fetched. If you're looking for the Beethoven of rap, you can easily bring up Kanye. I don't know how much historians will look at Kanye, but I can tell you that he's contributed as much to his genre of music as Beethoven.
Wow.
Watching the entire Power interview he comes off much better than the snippets in the OP, but he still needs to work on articulating himself better and getting his points across, but it's still too much to ask people to care about the struggles he's facing to become a billionaire.
Now the Sway interview, that is where he gets his ass handed. From watching that full interview, it's clear that Kanye was geniuinely upset about the Power interview that he did earlier in the day with Charlemagne and chose to unload all his frustrations about that interview on Sway vs confronting Charlemagne to his face like a real person. Much respect to Sway for handling it the way he did.
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