Regarding that horrible looking Aisha Tyler trailer, I just stumbled upon this:
What an odd response.
What an odd response.
Watch_Dogs downgradeaton confirmed
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I don't think so.
Here you go:
May 10, 2013
August 1, 2013
August 21, 2013
March 6, 2014
Edit: The second shot ie: the clearest one out of all of them(besides the original screenshot) was taken from a 1.2gb .mov file.
May 10, 2013 was a bit bullshot. The girl has higher poly count than "August 1, 2013" version. Shadows are higher res too. Transparency in her hair is better too. In "August 1, 2013" there is clipping in the necklace with neck. Model is lower poly (easily visible in the elbow of his jacket and fingers) and doesn't have dof effect.
In August 21, the shaders are better. For skin, eyes... The hand has dof effect again. But girl loses autoshadows in the hair and necklace.
March 6, 2014 is the best of all. Shadows in the hair again and shadows finally in the necklace. Overall better indirect lighting. Better DOF maks (clearly visible in girl shoulders). Better face tones. And they fixed the texture on mobile screen that was misplaced in august. What I can see is screenshot resolution is not 1080p, looks 900p.
Compare the first 2 images. The first has way more dynamics in lighting. Look at her hand.
Day and night my friend.Train downgrade confirmed?
One thing I noticed: The train appears to have no interior in the March 2014 story trailer while you can cleary recognize people in the March 2013 (PC) footage.
Train downgrade confirmed?
Confirmed
Why are there no lights on in the train? makes no sense.
It's a special night train where you can sleep.
Bam Bam Baklava
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I'm so confused about this game.
It's like that episode of seinfeld with the two-face woman. You never know what you're gonna get.
It's like that episode of seinfeld with the two-face woman. You never know what you're gonna get.
hahaha
Ignore this thread. This game will look superb.
KratosEnergyDrink
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I think when they first showed this game the specs of next gen was not fully know, even by game developers.
But now it is clear that PS4/One has not the power of a good gaming PC so they downgraded graphics for this lower specs (range of rather mid range gaming PC).
The PS4ONE has no special secret magic. They are what they are and we will never see detailed Full-HD graphics with 60 FPS on these consoles. To achieve 720p with AA and acceptable FPS the game developers MUST downgrade graphics.
I think in the coming years the Trailers for PS4One games will be more realistic in terms of graphics. The first game trailers a year ago showed graphics that COULD be possible, if these consoles had higher specs.
But now it is clear that PS4/One has not the power of a good gaming PC so they downgraded graphics for this lower specs (range of rather mid range gaming PC).
The PS4ONE has no special secret magic.
They are what they are and we will never see detailed Full-HD graphics with 60 FPS on these consoles. To achieve 720p with AA and acceptable FPS the game developers MUST downgrade graphics.I think in the coming years the Trailers for PS4One games will be more realistic in terms of graphics. The first game trailers a year ago showed graphics that COULD be possible, if these consoles had higher specs.
I would not bet my arm, but I think that smoke in story trailer is created using nvidia physx. If you look closely at particles in the end of the animation is the typical effect when using nvidia apex simulation. I guess if the put as future patch or only used for trailers.
POM road loss is really unfortunate.
Wishmaster92
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Nice, i didn't even notice those changes. There is some odd things going on with the color temp in each one of those shots, they all look different when they should look like the first one. Maybe the issue is that the video encoding is indeed messed up.
About to dump the rest of the screencaps from the 2012 demo.
Yeah the smoke effect in the sharing trailer looks weird as hell.
I wonder if it will come back.
funkystudent
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Really annoyed by that one myself. Was probably the best little next gen bell they had.
King Mac of Furry Frog
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and that makes them user friendly. Less hardware, less problems.
Well if you think that consoles can run beyond their hardware spec, good luck and good for you. Also 32 bit cpu? wtf is this 2004?
ButchCat
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Right pic is from the dedsec trailer 8/21/13
Cropped from last story trailer
Maybe there are differences between gameplay and cinematics.
Cropped from last story trailer
Maybe there are differences between gameplay and cinematics.
Yeah I try to not look at cutscenes to judge the graphics of a game.
Nice, here's hoping nothing was silently cut either.
viveks86
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Have these shots been posted before? Apparently, they were released yesterday according to the source (though they seem familiar)
I'd like to see a comparison shot of these on each platform when the game is out
More at: http://duuro.net/watch-dogs-get-new-screenshots/
I'd like to see a comparison shot of these on each platform when the game is out
More at: http://duuro.net/watch-dogs-get-new-screenshots/
But the message I quoted uses a cinematic too.
Wishmaster92
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Thanks for these.
Huge difference in color saturation again compared to direct screens.
Jigolo
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Thanks for these.
Huge difference in color saturation again compared to direct screens.
Dang that is significant.
jacksepticeye
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Every image there is really fuzzy looking I think. It's like there's a blurring over everything
That seems pretty conservative, aside from the RAM requirements which are down to next gen consoles having 8GB a piece.
Yeah I'm thinking recommended will be 8GB of RAM and possibly 2GB of VRAM
Edit: Seems the recommended specs have been released, 8GB RAM, 2GB VRAM, however, seems those were from last year when the game was originally planned for released in 2013, Morin hasn't tweeted anything about the recommended only the min, so maybe they've changed since last year? Until release, or at least in-depth gameplay previews are released closer to the release date, think I'll hold off from any conspiracy theories and give them the benefit of the doubt.
plagiarize
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we know, but we'd like to know why the 2014 footage looks to be notably lower resolution than the 2013 footage. obviously we're hoping it isn't because the game now runs at lower resolution.
Well, they said, that it will look better than E3 2012 on PC. We shall wait and see.
I'm just hoping, that my HD6850 will be able to run it at 1080p, with no major frame issues.
Your GPU just meets minimum requirements. I don't know that the game would be worth full launch price to me if I had to run it with everything on low at 1280x720. I'd start saving for a GPU if I were you.
pettson3816
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Well, i'm hoping to run it at medium settings in 1080p with my single GTX 680 and i5 4670k@4ghz, 8gb ram with acceptable frame rate (30's+).
If the graphics deliver what Jonathan Morin promises, the graphical fidelity of the 2012 E3 gameplay demo, it will be one of the most beautiful games ever, and that in an open world.
chickdigger802
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Thanks for these.
Huge difference in color saturation again compared to direct screens.
There like 2 different shots though, he has a different expression, the blur and DOF is changed, the angle and shot is not the same and he has a wooden slat or something behind him on the newer one.
It is from the same scene but looks like a different render?
Console use 32 bit cpu. What the hell of hardware specs you are talking about? We don't know how much can be pushed a console until some years, not works exactly like a comparable pc. But you think so, you really overstimate your knowledge about the graphic processing.
RadioactiveLobster
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So this appeared...
Circle Jerk
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You can tell this dude doesn't work in the PR department. Stupid, he's basically picking fights with people on twitter for no reason.
backflip10019
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He's not wrong about any of this.
If the current quality was what they had shown all along though, I doubt people would be as up in arms as they are now. It would just be a mediocre previous gen port. What they were showing before though was pushing boundaries on atmosphere and graphic capabilities.
meh
Sure that looks good... if you like riding your motorcycle over saran wrapped streets... personally I think Specular highlighting is taken a bit too far sometimes... nothing in real life is that reflective...
As far as watch dogs is concerned, I hope we don't have another Aliens Colonial marines situation, where the week leading up to it kills all hype for the game... the finished product is garbage, and the Wii U version quietly is delayed into cancellation.
I think what happened here is either that first E3 reveal was on a High end PC... or a flat out planned in game cinematic cutscene made to look like gameplay... physics don't take a ton of processing if its all precalculated... really makes you wonder how this stuff happens.
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