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Death itself isn't that bad, I don't really care how or when it happens, I'd just prefer it not be a torturous death if possible. But if not, oh well I'll learn to deal.

Death is really only an initially troubling idea, in the sense that once you accustom yourself to it, it becomes something not so dreaded... it's scary because it's the unknown precipice we're about to go plunging over... but once you cross the point of no-return and you realize you're powerless, you sort of begin taking the outcome for granted.
 
One thing that I am really happy about is that there is no eternal punishment/hell. When I was still a Christian I used think about how unfair (and now that I see it, VERY unjust) god was to all the people who never got a chance to believe in Jesus, lol.

DonMigs85 said:
so basically need to form babby before dying to leave a reminder of your existence.
But... how is babby formed?
 
Always-honest said:
by the time you're fucking old, you'll be happy to die.

I do not think that is true. We all think that when we're young, but most elderly people probably love life just as much, at least according to their own evaluation.
 
Every 5 years I seem to come to think about this. First time when I was 24 and then when I was 29.

My hope is that I can live with my wife until we are 120 years old. Mainly because I want to see the amazing progress of this world over a century.

Death and non-existence used to stress me almost to a state of panic when I would think about them. But then someone explained that it's not much different than when I don't realize I exist during night, or how I didn't realize I didn't exist before I was born. My only remaining fear and hope is that when the time comes, in some 90 years I hope, the event itself won't be too traumatic to myself or the people involved. I don't want to see fear around me or despair in peoples eyes when I go. I wan't them just go "thanks for the good ride, friend. we love you."
 
I think about it relatively often, and it's very unsettling when you think deeply about it. Eventually I have to just think of something else or I get depressed :lol
 
ErasureAcer said:
Peake.jpg


A Gaffer mentioned this book last year and I subsequently bought it. Good read.

All it needs is a small child or infant and some spheres and this would be a Dream Theater album cover.
 
umop_3pisdn said:
I do not think that is true. We all think that when we're young, but most elderly people probably love life just as much, at least according to their own evaluation.
Yup, as long as I don't end up extremely crippled, end up homeless, or in a war torn area... I'll be happy with life.
 
umop_3pisdn said:
I do not think that is true. We all think that when we're young, but most elderly people probably love life just as much, at least according to their own evaluation.

i know, but i meant when you really are all alone in some hospital with some fucking disease.

but sure, older people can enjoy life. i sure hope to enjoy life when i get old. but i do think it's a bit of an anti climax of your life (getting older that is.. not dying)

i wouldn't mind being 35 for 65 years and then die in my sleep
 
umop_3pisdn said:
Death itself isn't that bad, I don't really care how or when it happens, I'd just prefer it not be a torturous death if possible. But if not, oh well I'll learn to deal.

Death is really only an initially troubling idea, in the sense that once you accustom yourself to it, it becomes something not so dreaded... it's scary because it's the unknown precipice we're about to go plunging over... but once you cross the point of no-return and you realize you're powerless, you sort of begin taking the outcome for granted.
This. Seriously, I'd rather die in an instant than have to go through a torturous deadly ailment or something.

Having said that, I really admire the passion and courage of people with such diseases (e.g. cancer) to carry on with their lives.
 
What would you chose?, a short(relative could be maybe 60 years) but meaningul life, healthy and stuff like that or a loooong life, like i can't imagine it's very fun to be in your 60's or older and start having your organs fail or a few surgerys, i fucking hate the thought of going trough several procedures just to keep living like a bag of bones sitting on a chair or worse, laying on a bed for years unable to take care of myself properly and needing the aid of others to do something as simple as going to a bathroom or eating.

In my case i'd rather die in my sixties than live longer and being sick all the time or really really fragile.
 
Aesius said:
Nah man.

The technological singularity will occur around 2050, and then we'll have the chance to upload our brains to computers and be immortal.

Just gotta survive until then.

But you'd still be dead sure this new you wouldn't know the difference and would make the same decisions but you'd still be dead.

We'd need a cyborg body that preserves the original brain.
 
XHPrime said:
But you'd still be dead sure this new you wouldn't know the difference and would make the same decisions but you'd still be dead.

We'd need a cyborg body that preserves the original brain.

Or just the ability to put our brain in a jar and then connect it to an awesome virtual world.

......whoa.
 
Aesius said:
Or just the ability to put our brain in a jar and then connect it to an awesome virtual world.

......whoa.

Yes! much better it'd be awesome to pull up anything you thought of Matrix style.
 
Alright. Own up to it. This thread was deliberately created following my comment in the 'afterlife' thread:

BowieZ said:
Man why do you sadists have to keep bumping this horrible thread? I don't want to constantly be reminded of my impending eternal inexistence over and over again.
:lol
 
I think about it frequently. I mean, if there is an afterlife, I'm curious to see what it is. And if there isn't, oh well. Its not like I'm going to regret no longer existing...when I don't exist.
 
Aesius said:
Nah man.

The technological singularity will occur around 2050, and then we'll have the chance to upload our brains to computers and be immortal.

Just gotta survive until then.

what if your brain is already in a computer and someone is fucking with your mind on the other side? what if this post is from that guy =D
 
Wickerbasket said:
Maybe the definition of your Hell. I find the idea exhilarating. It'd be the ultimate in exploration. You could spend an eternity learning. The universe may come to an end but then why can't it also have another beginning? You'd get to experience something no other person has or ever will.

As for people dying, that's just part of life. People you care about will die; it's sad, but you move on.
THANK YOU! That is exactly what I try to tell people and they all say I'm crazy. I want to experience every thing I can, and I'd be completely ok with the consequences.
 
-COOLIO- said:
an afterlife is as unlikely as us having ever existed.

so anything could happen.
There was a lot of zen in that post and I agree!:D

From what we can tell our form of consciousness is an aberration. It's extremely rare for it to happen even on our planet. So... anything after is open to question. Is it all electrical impulses or is there something behind the science? That's something you can only know when you die.

And by then will it truly matter either way?
 
nobodoy wants to die and although i'm agnostic now i bet when i'm on my death bed i'll be praying up and down that there is a god.
 
Joe said:
nobodoy wants to die and although i'm agnostic now i bet when i'm on my death bed i'll be praying up and down that there is a god.
Atheist/agnostic soldiers on the verge of death have been known to do this.
 
You know, I really hate the "there is no afterlive, baka!"-brigade here on gaf.

Im a person that loves science and hates religion, but it seems whenever people assume that there´s the possibility of an afterlife, the brigade gets touchy and thinks "oh no, someone wants ro rationalize religion, we have to stop it from spreading!".

I dont believe that there´s heaven or some other kind of religious paradise. But I don´t see how it is scientifically impossible to believe that there is the possibility for an afterlife to exist. That´s equally stupid as people claiming "there´s nothing faster than light", when we simply haven´t found out a way to "beat light speed". And we never will, if we firmly believe that it is not possible.
Same with the afterlife. We´ll never find out about its existence (within our life time), if we keep refusing to believe of just a possibility for its existence.

In short, go hate yourself, but don´t call you a scientific person just because you deny any possibility for an afterlive.
 
DonMigs85 said:
Atheist/agnostic soldiers on the verge of death have been known to do this.
no atheists in foxholes, etc etc.

As for the possibility of an afterlife, give me a shred of evidence to believe in it and I'll consider it. The most people ever have to offer just comes off as grasping at straws and really scraping the bottom of the science barrel, which I can understand because the human brain has a hard time coping with the concept of ceasing to exist for eternity. Frankly I find the idea of one's consciousness continuing on after the brain and body dies to be preposterous, but that's just my opinion. I would honestly love for someone to change my mind.
 
selig said:
You know, I really hate the "there is no afterlive, baka!"-brigade here on gaf.

Im a person that loves science and hates religion, but it seems whenever people assume that there´s the possibility of an afterlife, the brigade gets touchy and thinks "oh no, someone wants ro rationalize religion, we have to stop it from spreading!".

I dont believe that there´s heaven or some other kind of religious paradise. But I don´t see how it is scientifically impossible to believe that there is the possibility for an afterlife to exist. That´s equally stupid as people claiming "there´s nothing faster than light", when we simply haven´t found out a way to "beat light speed". And we never will, if we firmly believe that it is not possible.
Same with the afterlife. We´ll never find out about its existence (within our life time), if we keep refusing to believe of just a possibility for its existence.

In short, go hate yourself, but don´t call you a scientific person just because you deny any possibility for an afterlive.
For all we know there are atheist scientists, etc in Hades right now
 
If there is a GOD I don't think atheist scientists go to hell. GOD gave us free will. He gave us a beautiful brain, and to use it to the fullest would be the greatest compliment. To discover and unlock " The mind of GOD"
 
selig said:
You know, I really hate the "there is no afterlive, baka!"-brigade here on gaf.

Im a person that loves science and hates religion, but it seems whenever people assume that there´s the possibility of an afterlife, the brigade gets touchy and thinks "oh no, someone wants ro rationalize religion, we have to stop it from spreading!".

I dont believe that there´s heaven or some other kind of religious paradise. But I don´t see how it is scientifically impossible to believe that there is the possibility for an afterlife to exist. That´s equally stupid as people claiming "there´s nothing faster than light", when we simply haven´t found out a way to "beat light speed". And we never will, if we firmly believe that it is not possible.
Same with the afterlife. We´ll never find out about its existence (within our life time), if we keep refusing to believe of just a possibility for its existence.

In short, go hate yourself, but don´t call you a scientific person just because you deny any possibility for an afterlive.
I don't think many people will tell you "We know everything and it's impossible for there to be an afterlife." What they will tell you is, "Given what we know about how the world works, it's unlikely to the point of near impossibility that there is an afterlife. If we learn something that makes it seem more likely, I will be willing to re-evaluate my position."

Their position is pretty similar to discussions about gravity. It's not impossible that there's some way for humans to exempt themselves from the laws of gravity, and fly away under their own power. There are plenty of things we don't know about the universe and perhaps there's something that would do that. However, at the moment it seems exceedingly unlikely.
 
When we die thats it, life is over nothing else. You are put in the ground and you disintegrate like every other animal that has died before you. Kinda sucks really :(
 
I mean when your dead...what really happens?
Nothing. Nothing happens, its the end of the story.

But I have hope in Science to keep me living forever! Come on Science, I want to be the first Generation to have immortality!

Why does the man in the picture have a photo of him self looking though the mirror like frame before said picture was put in place?
 
I find the thought of my death to be interesting. Here I am, 21, seen lots of crazy shit, met lots of crazy people. I find it interesting to kind of think about how it will end for me. Will I be old, will I be young? Will it be of some disease or illness? Will it be glorious, or cowardly? Will it be for something, or for nothing?

While I don't look forward to it, it is an inevitable part of life.
 
very sweet but overweight lady at my job passed away last week. total a hole in my office made heartless comments concerning her weight and the funeral. few days ago he was fired for something totally unrelated but i cant help but think the sweetheart had a hand in that from up above :lol
 
Hey, let us consult the Bible.

"For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten."

Well, that settles that.
 
Jakeh111 said:
When we die thats it, life is over nothing else. You are put in the ground and you disintegrate like every other animal that has died before you. Kinda sucks really :(
Thanks for the pro-tip.
 
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