BattleMonkey
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So why was the maze tattoo'd inside the scalp of one of the hosts?
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molnizzle
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mother fucker
Maybe.
Consider yourself lucky!
William = MiB
Wyatt = Dolores
Bernard = Arnold
Bernard = Host
All of these things and many more were figured out weeks ahead here. I too wish I hadn't been reading this thread haha. I'll be going on radio silence in S2. I want to be surprised.
Either rthat or S2 needs to be constructed differently, in such a way that "solving" the reveals doesn't become the driving force of social media.
This is the ending Penny Dreadful deserved.
the most stupid TV ending ever, that show deserved better
The ARG seems to imply Elsie is still alive. Stubbs probably as well by virtue of him not appearing again and being connected to her (after all he did vanish looking for her.)
I'm certain both will be in S2 and alive, too. Just saying that both of their character arcs would have had no closure if it had been a one season show, whereas characters like Ford, Dolores, William had great, complete arcs.
More_Badass
Member
Arnold was bored one day.
Not resolving Security Guy (and possibly Elsie) was odd given all the other stuff that was answered. It isn't like there's a big investment in his fate so leaving it on a cliffhanger just seems awkward.
I imagine it will lead to both of them being alive, as with Ford dead, William in the past, Bernard a host, the show will need some humans to interact with the rebellion that we might have some positive (if faint) affinity for.
I imagine it will lead to both of them being alive, as with Ford dead, William in the past, Bernard a host, the show will need some humans to interact with the rebellion that we might have some positive (if faint) affinity for.
Vic_Viper
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Loved the last episode until like the last 20 minutes.
You could almost tell where they had trouble finding the right ending for the finale. I thought Ford's character did a complete 180 when he says he was trying to help them find consiciousness. Everything else was great. Can't wait to see what they do next.
You could almost tell where they had trouble finding the right ending for the finale. I thought Ford's character did a complete 180 when he says he was trying to help them find consiciousness. Everything else was great. Can't wait to see what they do next.
More_Badass
Member
Suffering is the key
It was all an act and a means to keep pushing them to consciousness
This is the ending Penny Dreadful deserved.
Can I get a spoiler? I watched S1, dropped Showtime, now re-upped and wondering if it's worth catching up.
shira
Member
I forgot the actor passed away irl in 2014 and Nolan apparently had a much larger role/narrative in mind
Just watch the first two seasons and then quit.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I'm gonna go with "that was a host who died."
Moff
Member
we have seen hosts disregard bullts from security guards?
also, I think elsie and security guy might be the protagonists of season 2
Drag him!!!!!
Wow, I had absolutely no idea.
While I enjoyed the finale I feel like they spent too much time over-explaining most character's motivations in soliloquies that I found a little on the nose. It's kind of a problem I have with a few of this season's narrative arcs: less time spent on them would have made them punchier and less predictable (Maeve, MiB...). Still, good show.
BattleMonkey
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kinda, but he also wants the hosts to gain their independence/freedom apparently.. tho for his own reasons...
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
lmao WHAT???
She was easily one thousand percent the BEST THING ABOUT THAT EPISODE. (Which itself was fucking overflowing with standouts at every turn.)
The ENTIRE time from the escape I was like "Holy fuck, this is the best charac, wait WTF she's gonna die, FUCK THAT." And then, WHAMMY. She didn't die.
Best post credits since Doctor Strange.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Well yeah. Williams own wife killed herself after being scared of him for 30 years. His daughter didnt care much for him either. He was always a piece of shit inside, Delores just brought it out of him. I think it was cool how it kind of... kind of alludes to this internet white knight gamer who are actually a bunch of piece of shits inside ready to turn on women at the first sight of betrayal.
lol he just wanted some xp.
shira
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newtypepilot
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She had some terminator vibe. If anything, that scene further proves how incompetent the TAC team is. She is stuck and they still got wiped out.
Tony Redgrave
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Good finale and overall great season, not perfect but pretty much the best in television right now IMO.
Sad to see Hopkins go thought, he reaIly did bring quite a lot to the plate acting wise. I am going to assume they are not going to use some host fuckery to bring him back, although he might be present in flashbaks or some such smaller role, I hope. All characters ending up in interesting places along with that feudal Japan tease gives me hope for what's to come.
Now to wait for the next season.
Sad to see Hopkins go thought, he reaIly did bring quite a lot to the plate acting wise. I am going to assume they are not going to use some host fuckery to bring him back, although he might be present in flashbaks or some such smaller role, I hope. All characters ending up in interesting places along with that feudal Japan tease gives me hope for what's to come.
Now to wait for the next season.
I am at a strange crossroads where I totally don't believe that Ford will be in season 2, but I absolutely adored his character that I can't accept that he won't be. Anybody else feel that way?
The William reveal was very exciting to me, as somebody who ignored almost everything about the show online. I do hope they continue a dual timeline, but it's expected now, so maybe not.
This might be a dumb question, but why did so many people refer to Wyatt's men? I guess it was just in their story, rather than there actually being any evidence of the character existing in a physical sense?
The William reveal was very exciting to me, as somebody who ignored almost everything about the show online. I do hope they continue a dual timeline, but it's expected now, so maybe not.
This might be a dumb question, but why did so many people refer to Wyatt's men? I guess it was just in their story, rather than there actually being any evidence of the character existing in a physical sense?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
She was amped by Maeve tho. No way aiming isn't part of that code suite.
My guess would be for the Native hosts to discover.
ooh never thought of it that way
Pretty sure they can't regenerate and still have the same structural physiology as people. So they use eyes to see, bullets handle flesh pretty well. So gut and chest shots may not put them down but get joints, eyes, or just do enough damage toll they are bled dry and they stop.
All part of the narrative. The real show twist was to get the oldest hosts to suffer enough to want to make decisions of their own. Dolores and Maeve being the first two. Every other host is still following narrative.
That's also programming, that was the point of the milk guys scene. He was getting shot up and not dying because he doesn't really have to die. They have physiology that looks human but with different rules. They never really showed what truely kills a host
I love how suffering was an awakening of both the human and host minds in the show
Ford telling "Bernard" that he's afraid he'll have to do more suffering yet gave me chills.
Hah it wasn't as much restraint as I watched a majority of it in a weekend. But I agree it was a really interesting way to watch it. I do the opposite with Game of Thrones and read everything and I think sometimes it puts a damper on my enjoyability of the show.
Yes, two discs worth of score.
Anyone would look incompetent when the enemy is using aim bots.
TimeEffect
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So, Ford is dead, but how can anyone else die without the entire park getting shut down?
And how come nobody knew Bernard was Arnold? Shouldn't there be like media reports on Westworld to the outside world?
And how come nobody knew Bernard was Arnold? Shouldn't there be like media reports on Westworld to the outside world?
Sickboy007
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Robert was so well written. They really did justice to Sir Philip Anthony Hopkins, CBE.
He brought out his inner McPoyle.
Veritigo_X
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Arnold was a recluse that lived in a basement during a closed beta test. Ford also went to lengths to remove evidence of him.