Walter Matthau
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Casual Gamer: "I'd like to buy the new Switch"
Store Clerk: "Sure thing. You mean the Switch 2?"
Casual Gamer: "I'm so confused right now. This is way too complicated"
What a Sorry State of Gaming from all sides
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Casual Gamer: "I'd like to buy the new Switch"
Store Clerk: "Sure thing. You mean the Switch 2?"
Casual Gamer: "I'm so confused right now. This is way too complicated"
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Of course it will sell out, It's new tech and the fans combined with the scalpers will assure that. It's after that is the question. Are casuals going to spend this much money on these games and systems in this shit economy?
Laptop1991
Member
Yeah i would lol. for the Switch 2 etc, this is the only place i read about them
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Leaving out:
Switch 1 vs Switch 2 editions
Upgrade cost More on some games vs others
Game Key cards and how they work
Why some games are $20 more expensive than others, Casuals just knows that games are games
Why do I have to downlaod some big games (game key cards) and Why can I just plug in some games and work (cartridge)
Etc etc etc.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Video game crash of 1983 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This industry needs another hard crash and reboot.
Sorry, but what do you think that would achieve?
And honestly "another crash"? You do understand all that happened in 1982 was a bunch of US corporations and toy companies simply pulled out of the business because they saw it as too volatile and fad-driven for further investment.
It wasn't a revolution! Nintendo didn't save shit, they were just the only players with a will to continue after the US market flat-lined.
The rest of the world barely noticed, and sure as hell didn't need Nintendo to continue growing the market.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
I stick to every one of those. I also love the fact that I wasted your time and energy to go look all of that up and post it. Patheic
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Sinozen
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No the prices are crazy. Think about the average person. They aren't wealthy. $20 extra adds up quick if you buy a few games here and there. $70 games would've been understandable, but this is going to cause more people to hold off on purchasing and stagnate sales. For Microsoft it makes sense because they want to push people into Game Pass. For Nintendo they have enough money in their fatass pockets to experiment with their pricing.
I'm just buying mostly indie games now myself. It's also just what appeals to me and is far more genuine than corporate created games. I feel so thankful for my Steam Deck. It is the perfect console these days. I have my whole gaming library including old games on one portable device. It's brilliant. If there's an $80 game I want to buy I just wait for a sale. I have more than enough to play.
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Wastelander92
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Video game crash of 1983 - Wikipedia
This industry needs another hard crash and reboot.
The "crash" was primarily American. Famicom was already out in Japan and arcades were still huge there and Europe had PCs.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
30 secends how long you write?? dont worry my friend you will bee famous for your perdictions threads bumped next 10 years
Walter Matthau
Member
So you think poorly enough of casual gamers that somehow things like game prices are confusing to them, but think highly enough of them that you think they're questioning these things heavily before buying the Switch 2 even though casuals "just know games are games"?
If the Switch 2 doesn't sell it's because consumers don't think it's worth the money.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Do you want to pay £7.99 to upgrade your Switch 1 version of Zelda to the Switch 2 version?
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
That some stalker shit. Get help30 secends how long you write?? dont worry my friend you will bee famous for your perdictions threads bumped next 10 years
Little Mac
Member
I'm considering grabbing a certified refurbished Steam Deck OLED atm.
Guardian Monkey
Member
Rockstar: I made a topic a few months about why we have not seen any news or new Trailers on GTA 6 and of course all the shills quoted rockstar, "But they confirmed it was 2025!" Normally I understand a delay but not when your last game was 13 fucking years ago.
They are making like a billion dollars a year with that 13 year old game, why rush it?
Nintendo: They are creating a WiiU situation here. Of course the Nintendo Dorks will have it sell out for the first year of launch, after that is the issue. The Crazy prices, the confusing upgrade packages, and just weird marketing is going to confuse the Causal gamer. Like it or not, the casual gamer is where the big bucks are. Switch 2 will be a success but no where near the original. Corporate Greed hit Nintendo hard.
Nintendo makes Nintendo games and that is why most people buy the system. Nothing changing there, also the WiiU had some great games. While the Switch 2 won't sell as much as the Switch, it will be fine.
Xbox: Don't even get me started. There are few exclusive worth a Damn anymore on the Xbox console. Microsoft purchased a ton of companies but I wonder where the fuck the games are? On top of that, they have the nerve to jack up the prices on their low selling Xbox Series console. Just fucking stupid.
In the six month span from Indy to Doom in a couple weeks, MS has been on fire. Absurd comment, the whole Xbox has no games is a stale argument and at this point, defunct.
Sony: Man they fell out this generation. So many great Sony first party exclusive games on PSx, PS2, PS3, PS4, and the PS5 is just crickets. There have been very few first party games for the PS5 and do not see much on the horizon. They spent Billions on bullshit GAAS games and have nothing to show for it. Compared to previous generations, the PS5 library is pathetic.
While Sony has slowed down with AAA for a multitude of reasons. Astrobot, Helldivers 2, and Final Shape all last year.
PC: The biggest player in the PC space Nvidia just released their most shitty product ever. The overpriced 50xx series is a piece of shit and not worth the value. It's barely an upgrade from the 40xx series and now you can openly find 50xx series cards on Shelves(corrected). They even lied about the prices when shown. The prices they displayed on their reveal you cannot even find at big named retailers. The performance increases over the 40xx series are minimal.
Yeah, its no a massive upgrade but prices did drop. Judging availability and pricing of new cards is the norm for the first six months and has been that way for half a decade, but that is tapering down now for the 50 RTX series.
Thank god for game emulation and older games. New games keep asking for more money because of "production cost" but the product is getting worse. They want I and others to pay more money for a worse product.
Gaming as a hobby is still relatively cheap.
Pathetic!
What?!?
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delirium trigger
Member
The video game world is dominated by old games, some certified ancient. Fortnite is almost 8 years old now and it's still the game "the kids" are playing.
What does that tell you about video game developers these days?
What does that tell you about video game developers these days?
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
industry will bee fine soooome company make mistarkes buuuuuuuut peoples love gaming more thens ever
calm down pal this is for funs nort laugh at you laugh at your 20 nintendoom thread a month
Puscifer
Member
The only 2 things I'll disagree with are these;
1. We had the 10 dollar increase already and it's already another 10 within a few years. To me though, Americans have really got to stop whining, I remember going to Japan and seeing new releases were 10,000 yen! At the time in 2017 it was roughly 88/90 dollars. Reality was I wanted a few Japanese games with English for the novelty but it was actually better to just wait till I got home. That was a personal wake-up call of how much better we have it when it comes to game pricing and I never complained, even with the 70 dollar increase.
2. In general PC gamers wait for sales, it's just kinda facts. I wanted Final Fantasy 16 but 70 bucks and they didn't wanna bother including dlc? Cool, I'll wait for the sale and get it for 30 like I did at GMG. I'm not in a rush to give companies my money on PC or console, rarely are games worth full price in general to be worth bragging about the fact it's easier for you to part with your money.
TwiztidElf
Member
One thing I know for sure.
No matter how much I want it, I'm not paying AU$120+ for Ghost of Yotei on day one.
No matter how much I want it, I'm not paying AU$120+ for Ghost of Yotei on day one.
Guardian Monkey
Member
RavageX
Member
I agree with everything, but on PC I don't give a damn about card releases. I don't keep up with that, I buy what I need to play the games I want reasonably well and leave it at that.
I've been really disappointed in PlayStation this time around. I've cancelled Plus and let Game pass go. Game Pass is a better option, but with my old backlog I don't need it.
As far as game prices….I don't pay $60 now, there is no way I'd pay $80.
I've been really disappointed in PlayStation this time around. I've cancelled Plus and let Game pass go. Game Pass is a better option, but with my old backlog I don't need it.
As far as game prices….I don't pay $60 now, there is no way I'd pay $80.
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touchfuzzy
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The price is only crazy the first time you see it, and if no one else does it. Microsoft doing the same thing, and Sony will follow suit of course, then that just becomes the new norm. Didn't a $69.99 game look 'crazy' the first time you saw it? Now it's normal. And they ease people in by giving a significant discount on their $79.99 game when it's bundled with the console.
Besides, at least Nintendo has said they won't do it with every game, and we've already seen that with Donkey Kong's price being lower.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I'm pretty sure the latest DVD release cost me £19.99 back then and most new releases on 4K UHD cost the same with the Steelbook variant being £29/35
Linken Park's first album was a tenner back then too, the Deluxe Edition of their latest Album is £12
Also between 1998/2000 PSX games were £29.99, an actual drop from £59.99
this also happened during the PS2 era.
Games went up at launch and a few years later then dropped to £29.99
N64 Games were expensive due to them being Cartridge based.
Both the Movie & Games Industry has seen recently that the same AAA standard can be met or even surpassed at more then half the budget/development time and people working on it and come in at a low customer entry price.
The current system is intentionally broken and needs to be told no instead of just accepting it.
We have had an increase in prices which was already questionable, but we don't need another and we don't need people defending it.
Because what comes next is another & another...
But you are right, we are in a time when people turn up with their own lube & are even happy to take it dry.
calico
Member
The traditional big boys have been underwhelming for a while, I think in no small part because of how stupidly long development times for some of their games have become.
Below that level I think we're doing great. In the last ~18 months we got Balatro, Metaphor, Blue Prince and Exp33, all of which I would consider to be worthy GOTY winners and two of which (B & BP) I hadn't even heard of until about a week before they released. I'm more excited about gaming than I have been in a long time.
Below that level I think we're doing great. In the last ~18 months we got Balatro, Metaphor, Blue Prince and Exp33, all of which I would consider to be worthy GOTY winners and two of which (B & BP) I hadn't even heard of until about a week before they released. I'm more excited about gaming than I have been in a long time.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
gaming was also newer & consoles/games were using state-of-the art tech and hardware to distribute them. We're not gaming with big fancy cartridges & expansion chips anymore.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Meanwhile great games are releasing left and right and mu backlog only increases.
Azure Crystal Gaming
Member
How about some good news? Polygon is getting hit hard.
ultrazilla
Gold Member
I think many gamers AND publishers/developers have become obsessed with big budget, "let's make an interactive action movie or shooter, rpg...name it" and
this is why the industry is eating itself.
Hate to say this but the industry needs another crash/reset. I'm serious. Coming from the good old days of Pong and Atari 2600...I don't say that lightly.
The money being spent on development with AAA games is absolutely gross. Budgets, payroll, etc.
It needs to change.
Oh and fuck the "ALL DIGITAL FUTURE". Physical ownership must survive.
Sorry for the bit of rambling......I just had total knee replacement(left knee this time) and the pain pump attached to me is working pretty damn good. I'll post pics later
this is why the industry is eating itself.
Hate to say this but the industry needs another crash/reset. I'm serious. Coming from the good old days of Pong and Atari 2600...I don't say that lightly.
The money being spent on development with AAA games is absolutely gross. Budgets, payroll, etc.
It needs to change.
Oh and fuck the "ALL DIGITAL FUTURE". Physical ownership must survive.
Sorry for the bit of rambling......I just had total knee replacement(left knee this time) and the pain pump attached to me is working pretty damn good. I'll post pics later
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//DEVIL//
Member
I just bought Dead Rising 4 on Pc for 2$.
I can wait years for a game. I do not give a fuck. if these devs/publishers wanna be greedy, then by all means go ahead. Lets see who will get fucked. You're closing down your studios because of your greed, or me, with all the backlog of games I have.
I pretty much have more than 1000 game ( more than that even ) that I bought for dirt cheap and I didnt even install or try once.
So go ahead. charge a 100$ for a game for all I care lol.
I can wait years for a game. I do not give a fuck. if these devs/publishers wanna be greedy, then by all means go ahead. Lets see who will get fucked. You're closing down your studios because of your greed, or me, with all the backlog of games I have.
I pretty much have more than 1000 game ( more than that even ) that I bought for dirt cheap and I didnt even install or try once.
So go ahead. charge a 100$ for a game for all I care lol.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
And what do you think has been happening for a decade?
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Also the games were on carts with expensive ROMs before going disc based.
blacktout
Member
Ah yes, spending a couple of minutes skimming someone's posting history in order to better refute their argument is "some stalker shit." I'm guessing you called the cops whenever one of your teachers assigned you a research paper.
March Climber
Gold Member
The website has a search function on the upper right. It's honestly not that hard to grab some receipts from posters.
Sinozen
Member
I'm fortunate to be well enough off to where this won't affect me so much, but even then my brain is like eww. It's just a video game and there are limits to what you can price things like this. A price increase is always going to rub us the wrong way. $70 sucked but it wasn't unexpected with the way inflation has been. A $20 increase so quickly is incredibly jarring. If its like that to me what's it gonna be like for the average person who is in debt? They're not buying games or they'll buy very little. People are going to wait for sales or find something else to do.
The reason Nintendo isn't doing it with every game is because this entire thing is an experiment for them to see what they can get away with. They know Donkey Kong doesn't have weight as a new Mario Kart. It has nothing to do with value like they say
. Microsoft is just taking their opportunity because of course every company wants to make more money and push consumers where they want, but there are limits and these companies can afford to test the waters. As a consumer we should vote with our wallets though.You can still make a shit ton of money with $60-$70 games. In fact they might even make more but they're betting they aren't pricing out potential consumers. People are going to be have to be much pickier and psychologically it's going to hold people back from buying more. They'd be better off balancing their budgets and not spending so damn much to make their games. This is the real issue here. They need to downsize and lean into new ways of making games cheaper.
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Unknown Soldier
Member
I was gonna say, I've been busy playing a lot of great actual video games and there's too many great games for me to play right now and not enough time in my day
Gambit2483
Member
A Gamer79 thread...let me guess, Nintendo is doomed and he hopes it fails.
Damn man, did Nintendo piss in your cornflakes and kick your dog or something??
Damn man, did Nintendo piss in your cornflakes and kick your dog or something??
Buggy Loop
Member
All I see with your constant whining posts OP
Its a fucking good year for gaming