What are you reading? (August 2015)

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If you ever feel to read something bad, see how badly others can mangle something, read Brian Herbert's and Kevin J. Anderson's sequels.
The prequels are not that bad, if you regard them as stand-alone works, unrelated to Dune, ignoring generally bad writing. Kind of pulp scifi, i think.

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Don't read any of them. Save yourself from that.

I read fifteen pages of one of the Brian Herbert/Kevin J Anderson books and set it aside. After the quality of Chapterhouse, it was like listening to nails screeching on a blackboard. I knew Kevin J. Anderson was a hack already, but if the writing itself had been a little better I might have stuck in, just to read about the Butlerian Jihad. Nope. Garbage.

Reading Dune did make me want to re-read some of Herbert's non-Dune stuff, like the ConSentiency novels and White Plague.

But, moving on, I read This Immortal by Roger Zelazny, which received the Hugo the same year as Dune (in one of the rare Hugo ties). It was interesting, but not, I think, even close to being on the level of Dune. And, like a lot of Zelazny's stuff for me, there were sections where I was fever-gripped by the writing, followed by long passages where I wished everyone would shut up. An interesting idea -- Earth destroyed, humanity leaves, the old gods return -- but it probably suffered from coming on the heels of a masterpiece like Dune.
 
What did you think of American gods. I had initially heard good things and added it to my top read list. Since then I have heard some negative things. Wonder if I should bother with it or go to other Gaiman books first (I have only read the ocean at the end of the lane so far)

American Gods is one of those books that received a ton of accolades when it was released, and has since gotten a lot of blowback on the internet for its popularity/"overratedness". It's not going to change your life or anything, but it is a fun book.
 
Currently reading two novels that are related to two writing projects I've recently completed/started.

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The first is Terry Brooks' The Elfstones of Shannara, which I'm rereading for an ongoing series on Tor.com called, appropriately enough, Rereading Shannara. There are a lot of issues with Brooks' later books (and hist debut), but I will, to the end of days, defend Elfstones as a true classic of '80s epic fantasy.

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Concurrently, I'm reading Beyond the Pool of Stars By Howard Andrew Jones, an upcoming Pathfinder Tales novel. If you've been paying attention, you've probably noticed that I've read a good handful of PT this year, and just yesterday I published "Welcome to Golarion-Enter the World of the Pathfinder Tales" on the Barnes & Noble Sci-Fi and Fantasy Blog. I wanted to help other readers who (like me) are intrigued but intimated by the series.

At the end of the day, even with zero experience playing the Pathfinder RPG, I've had a lot of fun with the novels, which are surprisingly nuanced Sword & Sorcery adventures in the mold of Lieber and Howard.
 
American Gods is one of those books that received a ton of accolades when it was released, and has since gotten a lot of blowback on the internet for its popularity/"overratedness". It's not going to change your life or anything, but it is a fun book.

I never knew it had received a ton of accolades when I read it. I thought it was just okay and a little boring and wasn't something I recommend to people. I liked the concept of it all but thought it was a bit wasted.

In other news, I am finishing up The Martian and:

Love the concept. Will make a great movie. But I started to skip over all of the "SCIENCE" parts of the book that happened when something went wrong on Mars. It got to be too much. To me, all suspense was removed because he can just science the fuck out of everything. Still, I liked it (unless the last 50 pages suck). Looking forward to the movie!
 
I never knew it had received a ton of accolades when I read it. I thought it was just okay and a little boring and wasn't something I recommend to people. I liked the concept of it all but thought it was a bit wasted.

It won or was nominated for every major scifi/fantasy genre award that year.
 
What did you think of American gods. I had initially heard good things and added it to my top read list. Since then I have heard some negative things. Wonder if I should bother with it or go to other Gaiman books first (I have only read the ocean at the end of the lane so far)

Gaiman is a fantastic writer. He could talk about the life of a dung beetle and make it beautiful and fascinating. So on that level, I think the book is great and creative.

That said, it's a slow burn that doesn't really go anywhere. It ends with a whimper not a bang. If you're expecting an epic tale of battles and adventure, it's not that. It's a road trip story with a lot of dialog.
 
American Gods really invests itself in mythology, Americana and the immigration experience. If these things are your jam, you'll like it. If not... it'll be pretty boring.
 
American Gods really invests itself in mythology, Americana and the immigration experience. If these things are your jam, you'll like it. If not... it'll be pretty boring.

Pretty much.


I also picked up Station Eleven for $2 on Amazon. I wish it was easier to see deals on the Kindle store. It's so cluttered with self-published tripe staring bad boys, vampires, and Scottish tribesmen.
 
It won or was nominated for every major scifi/fantasy genre award that year.

Those are all AFTER I had read it! :p

Gaiman is a fantastic writer. He could talk about the life of a dung beetle and make it beautiful and fascinating. So on that level, I think the book is great and creative.

That said, it's a slow burn that doesn't really go anywhere. It ends with a whimper not a bang. If you're expecting an epic tale of battles and adventure, it's not that. It's a road trip story with a lot of dialog.

Yeah, this is a good summary of how I felt about it as well. Like I said, I felt the great concept was somewhat wasted.
 
I'm reading "La sombra del caudillo" by Martín Luis Guzman. It's the quintessential novel about the Mexican Revolution of 1910, 100 years after Mexico got its independence from the Spanish Empire.

Delving into the atmosphere of conflict because of the newly acquired democracy, it's a political novel that details the struggle between the urge to consolidate the democracy that people want and need and those who want to convert it into a hidden dictatorship.

I'm liking it a lot, but it may be hard to read to some people because it delves into the political and historical setting of an early independent Mexico, therefore requiring the reader to know about political figures and events.
 
Finished three men in a boat. Decent comedy. Will get back to it on rainy days. ;)

10th book of the year. Can you believe how slow I read? Need to up my pace.
 
^I was very surprised when I saw that was published in the 1800's.
In other news, I am finishing up The Martian and:

Love the concept. Will make a great movie. But I started to skip over all of the "SCIENCE" parts of the book that happened when something went wrong on Mars. It got to be too much. To me, all suspense was removed because he can just science the fuck out of everything. Still, I liked it (unless the last 50 pages suck). Looking forward to the movie!

To be fair, he straight up says, “I'm going to have to science the shit out of this.”
 
The Martian's publishing history is an interesting rags to riches story. Weir couldn't get a publisher to pick up his book, so he made it a serialized story on his personal website. Fans convinced him to self publish an ebook on Amazon where it did well enough to get an audiobook (and later printed) publishing deal. Now it's being made into a movie with a top notch cast and pretty positive buzz. No doubt that is going to drive further book sales.

Here's an article on the book:

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-andy-weirs-the-martian-became-so-successful-2015-6
 
Alright then, if American gods is an "ok" book then what should be my second foray into Neil Gaiman?

His short story collection, Smoke and Mirrors.

Neverwhere is the same formula but more exciting.

Stardust was good as well.

And then Sandman.

(If you read Sandman first everything else will look worse.)
 
Alright then, if American gods is an "ok" book then what should be my second foray into Neil Gaiman?

American Gods has a 4.1 average on Goodreads, which is Gaiman's second highest (for a novel) after Neverwhere. It also won the Hugo, Locus, and Nebula awards the year it was released. We all have our personal preferences, but the book had (and has) a better than OK reception.

It's a fine second choice after Ocean at the end of the Lane. If you want something more adventurous though, go with Stardust or Neverwhere. If you don't mind young adult (and to me Ocean was close to young adult), Coraline and the Graveyard Book were pretty good as well.

I didn't care for Anansi Boys when I read it.
 
American Gods has a 4.1 average on Goodreads, which is Gaiman's second highest (for a novel) after Neverwhere. It also won the Hugo, Locus, and Nebula awards the year it was released. We all have our personal preferences, but the book had (and has) a better than OK reception..

I'm a big American Gods fan. That said, I'm surprised that Neverwhere, which I consider the weakest of his novels (though, admittedly, there are a couple I haven't read) has the highest avg. Goodreads score.
 
Well Neverwhere is less esoteric than American Gods. They're pretty much the same story but:

Neverwhere has a more grounded and familiar setting, for urbanites.
Neverwhere has a more original mythology.
Neverwhere had a few action sequences and a varied main party.
Neverwhere had strange but enticing """magic""" """"""""""systems""""""""""".

I'm not surprised Neverwhere is more popular on average. American Gods is like the craft beer of Gaiman novels.

Or maybe people were just put off by Bilquis, who knows!
 
The Sandman is the greatest comic of all time. Neil was working in a medium making shit up as he went along and ended up writing perfection. It's nuts how good it is.

I have a big place in my heart for Stardust because that was the first novel of his I read. I still need to read American Gods and Anansi Boys.
 
(If you read Sandman first everything else will look worse.)

Ya, Sandman is still the best thing he has ever wrote. It's sort of a shame that it takes most of volume 1 to hit its stride though. I can't help but think that some people write the series off as overhyped after reading the first trade.
 
Speaking of Neil Gaiman, I am reading Stardust right now...
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70 in pages so far. Gaiman is doing a very good job of creating a whimsical, fantastic atmosphere.
 
I'm finally reading American Psycho.


Weird to read it so long after having seen the movie a couple times.It's a good laugh, even if the constant tabulating of what everyone is reading can get tiresome. Hard not to picture Bale in the role of Bateman. He really nailed it. It's sort of like reading the deleted scenes from the movie.
 
Apologies if old- the Kindle version of The Girl on The Train is $2 today. Been on my list for a while and figured I'd give a heads-up to this thread.
Much appreciated!
In other news, I am finishing up The Martian and:

Love the concept. Will make a great movie. But I started to skip over all of the "SCIENCE" parts of the book that happened when something went wrong on Mars. It got to be too much. To me, all suspense was removed because he can just science the fuck out of everything. Still, I liked it (unless the last 50 pages suck). Looking forward to the movie!
I hope the movie changes up the formula a bit, if it's the same "problem --> 'science' solution --> problem --> 'science' solution" in the same lighthearted mood, movie is going to suck.

Alright then, if American gods is an "ok" book then what should be my second foray into Neil Gaiman?
Definitely, check out The Graveyard Book and other recommendations gaffers made.

I know it's generally kinda shit on now a days but I saw Ready Player One is $1.99 for kindle today.
I've seen plenty of people expressing dislike here, what's up with that? (I've never read it)
 

I know, right?

I haven't read it yet, but many people here love Sandman (comic series). Mumei even praises it highly, and he's as snobby as they come. :-)

Hey, we've been over this!

His short story collection, Smoke and Mirrors.

Neverwhere is the same formula but more exciting.

Stardust was good as well.

And then Sandman.

(If you read Sandman first everything else will look worse.)

Read Sandman first, absolutely loved it. Can confirm.

I still really liked Coraline, The Graveyard Book, and Stardust, though. American Gods did absolutely nothing for me. Well, That Scene (yes, that one) was a pretty horrifying little set piece but that's just one moment in a sea of "I'm boooored."
 
Reading Dune did make me want to re-read some of Herbert's non-Dune stuff, like the ConSentiency novels and White Plague.

Yes... I've been wanting to do that as well for a long time. Unfortunately finding those is difficult, at least here.
They don't seem to be on print anymore. Dune is, obviously.
Somehow Herbert's other works are under everyone's radar. You can pick many older scifi writers and their books are still (relatively) easy to find. Except Herbert.
 
Finished "The Currents of Space".

Overall an enjoyable read if you like classic Asimov, not particularly ambitious and very short (like 100 pages or so) Only wished some characters were explored more, mostly Mia Fife
she's introduced as a strong-willed woman with clear goals, but she basically disappears from the ending after a very rapey scene.

Enjoyed the callbacks to the Foundation and the Robots series, even
if it's just unbelievable people could forget Earth was the original planet.

Started "The Stars, Like Dust" immediately after finishing it.
 
Yes... I've been wanting to do that as well for a long time. Unfortunately finding those is difficult, at least here.
They don't seem to be on print anymore. Dune is, obviously.
Somehow Herbert's other works are under everyone's radar. You can pick many older scifi writers and their books are still (relatively) easy to find. Except Herbert.

Yeah, I bought them when they were new:) I still have my copies of The Dosadai Experiment, Whipping Star, and White Plague, but they're stuffed somewhere in boxes (or maybe even in storage). If I knew where they were I'd send them to you.
 
GRRM really cares about the Hugos.

It's sort of cool to see him remain so connected to general sci-fi/fantasy fandom despite being well on his way to having a net worth over $100M by the time Game of Thrones wraps up.
 
Continuing our list of Amazon books on sale, The Name of the Wind is $1.99 on Amazon's kindle store. So is Assassin's Apprentice, A Game of Thrones, and 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Looking outside of Sci-Fi/Fantasy you have Gone Girl, Erik Larsen's Dead Wake
 
Still working my way through the Arden edition of Shakespeare's Sonnets and Vendler's commentary in The Art of Shakespeare's Sonnets. Her perspective is interesting, especially after reading Booth's essay. I sometimes think she's seeing phantoms, and some of her interpretations are just bizarre, but the many are very incisive; revelatory, even.

I also started A Brief History of Seven Killings, and was inspired to listen to Bob Marley for the first time*. I'm currently listening to him while I read. I think it adds to the experience!
 
Continuing our list of Amazon books on sale, The Name of the Wind is $1.99 on Amazon's kindle store. So is Assassin's Apprentice, A Game of Thrones, and 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Looking outside of Sci-Fi/Fantasy you have Gone Girl, Erik Larsen's Dead Wake
If Dead Wake is on sale, snap it up. It's a remarkable book, tense and fascinating.
 
I really like it. It's beautifully written, and undoubtedly I will think about it as time goes on, but I feel like it would have made more of an impact if I had read it in my twenties.

Funny that I thought the same thing. But replace twenties with my teenage years.

Started the 'second' book in a series I was forced to start last year. Barrayar. By a relatively unknown writer around this parts. Lois McMaster Bujold. It's a shame nobody ever in the history of Neogaf reading threads recommended Bujold.
 
Apologies if old- the Kindle version of The Girl on The Train is $2 today. Been on my list for a while and figured I'd give a heads-up to this thread.

Bought, thanks. I don't know why I bother checking the daily deals page through Kindle, none of the good titles are ever on it.


On this right now:
Collected Stories by Roald Dahl

So depressing and fucked up and funny. Classic Dahl.

Could you expand on that "Classic Dahl" bit? It's a name I've heard mentioned before.
 
Could you expand on that "Classic Dahl" bit? It's a name I've heard mentioned before.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? James and the Giant Peach? Danny Champion of the World, Matilda, The Witches, Fantastic Mr Fox, The BFG?
 
Lotta book deals. I might pick up The Girl on the Train, and I was debating The Martian even though I already read it.

None of the seventy-eight billion books I'm reading are super clicking with me. :(
 
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? James and the Giant Peach? Danny Champion of the World, Matilda, The Witches, Fantastic Mr Fox, The BFG?


Talk about blind spots, fuck.
I'll blame that one on a childhood spent in Russia.
 
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