Finished this trilogy today:
An engaging story about a pretty grim, dystopian near-future. The whole premise was done very well and it kept me really itching to know more about the history of how everything evolved into what it did. The author also does a great job of delving into the psychological aspects of the unique situation the people in the book find themselves in. There's a lot you can see coming(there aren't any massive twists or anything), but it doesn't stop it from being a good page-turner.
Would recommend.
My God, how? How have I never read or even heard more about Dorothy Dunnett?
The Game of Kings by Dorothy Dunnett
I despised men who accepted their fate. I shaped mine twenty times and had it broken twenty times in my hands.
Lymond is a hell of a character. He's an erudite, polyglot scholar who can drop more classical references in a single sentence than I could in an entire book, a brilliant plotter who turns every situation to his advantage, a charmer, a tactician, a caustic wit, a fighter, good at basically everything. And yet Tantalus-like, the one thing he wants more than anything else is constantly, painfully just out of reach.
And of course he's a deceitful, traitorous, back-stabbing, fratricidal, asshole outlaw.
The backdrop of the story is the ongoing skirmishing war between England and Scotland, during the Protectorship after the death of Henry VIII. England is trying to capture young Mary (Queen of Scots) in order to marry her to their own child King, and finally unite the two kingdoms. There are spies and cattle raids, intrigues and long cons, escapes and chases and messengers with Important Dispatches.
Lymond navigates deep and treacherous waters in pursuit of his goal. He veers from incomprehensible to incredible to pitiable and back again. And he's damned well entertaining to read about.
I should warn you in advance that the style takes some getting used to; dense with imagery sometimes at the expense of clarity, and Lymond has no problems breaking into French or Spanish or even Classical Latin. But a few chapters in you'll get used to it, and then it's a hell of a ride.
Highly recommended, especially if you like Miles Vorkosigan, or to a lesser extent Locke Lamora.
My God, how? How have I never read or even heard more about Dorothy Dunnett?
The Game of Kings by Dorothy Dunnett
I despised men who accepted their fate. I shaped mine twenty times and had it broken twenty times in my hands.
Lymond is a hell of a character. He's an erudite, polyglot scholar who can drop more classical references in a single sentence than I could in an entire book, a brilliant plotter who turns every situation to his advantage, a charmer, a tactician, a caustic wit, a fighter, good at basically everything. And yet Tantalus-like, the one thing he wants more than anything else is constantly, painfully just out of reach.
And of course he's a deceitful, traitorous, back-stabbing, fratricidal, asshole outlaw.
The backdrop of the story is the ongoing skirmishing war between England and Scotland, during the Protectorship after the death of Henry VIII. England is trying to capture young Mary (Queen of Scots) in order to marry her to their own child King, and finally unite the two kingdoms. There are spies and cattle raids, intrigues and long cons, escapes and chases and messengers with Important Dispatches.
Lymond navigates deep and treacherous waters in pursuit of his goal. He veers from incomprehensible to incredible to pitiable and back again. And he's damned well entertaining to read about.
I should warn you in advance that the style takes some getting used to; dense with imagery sometimes at the expense of clarity, and Lymond has no problems breaking into French or Spanish or even Classical Latin. But a few chapters in you'll get used to it, and then it's a hell of a ride.
Highly recommended, especially if you like Miles Vorkosigan, or to a lesser extent Locke Lamora.
I recommended Dunnett in a historical novel thread here a while back, but I'm glad to see someone else picked up on her. The Lymond Chronicles is flat out amazing. The third book and the last are my two favorites. The third book, The Disorderly Knights, introduces a truly nasty villain and has a tense as hell ending. Dunnett's other series, The House of Niccolo, is also highly recommended. Finally, given the depth of the language and poetry references, there are two companion books that were put together that collect them and translate where neccessary.
I'm reading Doctor Sleep. I don't read often, but was pretty pumped when I realized it was done and out a few weeks ago. 85% of the way through. It's decent, We'll see how the final act plays out..
They'll be back later.I'm two-thirds finished with the second book and really digging the story so far. This one abandoned the characters from the first in honor of more back story explanation, and I was disappointed at first. Now I'm really liking it.
So, if I wanted to start reading the Vorkosigan books, where should I start?
So, if I wanted to start reading the Vorkosigan books, where should I start?
Cordelia's Honor, then Young Miles.
Those are the first two omnibus editions, arranged in chronological order.
Cordelia's Honor, then Young Miles.
Those are the first two omnibus editions, arranged in chronological order.
Hey! New to these threads, but thought this would be a good place to get recommendations/opinions over time! Aaanyhow...
Yes indeed, Shards of Honor followed by Barrayar. And Miles's story begins in The Warrior's Apprentice.
While the series definitely has movement and progression, for the most part the individual books are fairly stand-alone. If you start the series, you don't have to read every single thing to finish the plotline.
My God, how? How have I never read or even heard more about Dorothy Dunnett?
The Game of Kings by Dorothy Dunnett
I despised men who accepted their fate. I shaped mine twenty times and had it broken twenty times in my hands.
Lymond is a hell of a character. He's an erudite, polyglot scholar who can drop more classical references in a single sentence than I could in an entire book, a brilliant plotter who turns every situation to his advantage, a charmer, a tactician, a caustic wit, a fighter, good at basically everything. And yet Tantalus-like, the one thing he wants more than anything else is constantly, painfully just out of reach.
And of course he's a deceitful, traitorous, back-stabbing, fratricidal, asshole outlaw.
The backdrop of the story is the ongoing skirmishing war between England and Scotland, during the Protectorship after the death of Henry VIII. England is trying to capture young Mary (Queen of Scots) in order to marry her to their own child King, and finally unite the two kingdoms. There are spies and cattle raids, intrigues and long cons, escapes and chases and messengers with Important Dispatches.
Lymond navigates deep and treacherous waters in pursuit of his goal. He veers from incomprehensible to incredible to pitiable and back again. And he's damned well entertaining to read about.
I should warn you in advance that the style takes some getting used to; dense with imagery sometimes at the expense of clarity, and Lymond has no problems breaking into French or Spanish or even Classical Latin. But a few chapters in you'll get used to it, and then it's a hell of a ride.
Highly recommended, especially if you like Miles Vorkosigan, or to a lesser extent Locke Lamora.
I recommended Dunnett in a historical novel thread here a while back, but I'm glad to see someone else picked up on her. The Lymond Chronicles is flat out amazing. The third book and the last are my two favorites. The third book, The Disorderly Knights, introduces a truly nasty villain and has a tense as hell ending. Dunnett's other series, The House of Niccolo, is also highly recommended. Finally, given the depth of the language and poetry references, there are two companion books that were put together that collect them and translate where neccessary.
Shhh, we gotta hook them in first.
Re: The Vorkosigan Saga -- publication order or chronological order? I'm assuming the former is the better option.
I don't care about slow starts or anything like that, and the completionist in me would pretty much require me to finish the series once I start it (unless it's garbage, which doesn't seem to apply in this case).
Publication Order.
Chronological Order.
The Goodreads folks seem to imply the author prefers an internal chronology reading. Halp!
Re: The Vorkosigan Saga -- publication order or chronological order? I'm assuming the former is the better option.
I don't care about slow starts or anything like that, and the completionist in me would pretty much require me to finish the series once I start it (unless it's garbage, which doesn't seem to apply in this case).
Publication Order.
Chronological Order.
The Goodreads folks seem to imply the author prefers an internal chronology reading. Halp!
But it doesn't really impact your ability to read them out of order and understand what is happening, and I think it was written with that sort of accessibility in mind. I read them in chronological order, as they were ordered in the omnibus editions, and I'd recommend reading it like that. I don't know if reading them out of order is better, but reading them in order is great.
I'm going to quote FnordChan from a while back on this one, because he pretty much nails it:
I'd add that Falling Free isn't a particularly good starting point. Either Shards of Honor or Warrior's Apprentice are better places to pick up the series.
Apologies if this is not appropriate for this thread...
My wife enjoys reading a lot and I want to get her a new book or book series for Christmas, but I have no idea what's good or not.
She like YA/adventure/mystery stuff, she likes Hunger Games, Harry Potter, those sookie stack house books, Stephen King, Sherlock Holmes, some crime thriller stuff..
She tried to read SOIAF, but couldn't really get into it, not really bothered about LOTR either.
Can anybody suggest anything worth looking at?
Reading Elantris.
It's... okay I guess.
A quick recommendation from me will be "Memoirs of an Imaginary Friend". It is my favourite book I've read this year. I'm not sure it entirely fits the criteria you posted, but it is pretty broad!
Apologies if this is not appropriate for this thread...
My wife enjoys reading a lot and I want to get her a new book or book series for Christmas, but I have no idea what's good or not.
She like YA/adventure/mystery stuff, she likes Hunger Games, Harry Potter, those sookie stack house books, Stephen King, Sherlock Holmes, some crime thriller stuff..
She tried to read SOIAF, but couldn't really get into it, not really bothered about LOTR either.
Can anybody suggest anything worth looking at?
I'd add that Falling Free isn't a particularly good starting point. Either Shards of Honor or Warrior's Apprentice are better places to pick up the series.
ahhh
Apologies if this is not appropriate for this thread...
My wife enjoys reading a lot and I want to get her a new book or book series for Christmas, but I have no idea what's good or not.
She like YA/adventure/mystery stuff, she likes Hunger Games, Harry Potter, those sookie stack house books, Stephen King, Sherlock Holmes, some crime thriller stuff..
She tried to read SOIAF, but couldn't really get into it, not really bothered about LOTR either.
Can anybody suggest anything worth looking at?
ahhh
Reading Elantris.
It's... okay I guess.