Going Offtopic(lol) here but um... you think that's how we base our tastes? lol you just went in making assumptions buddy. Think you need to reevaluate
Hint: That stuff is done because we are bored and its not that serious.
what happened to good music? no seriously
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Going Offtopic(lol) here but um... you think that's how we base our tastes? lol you just went in making assumptions buddy. Think you need to reevaluate
Hint: That stuff is done because we are bored and its not that serious.
I'm quite familiar with how people express their tastes there:
1. Be a fan of the super obscure and tell others they don't get it.
2. Be a fan of the uber popular and prove their greatness through album sales.
That about sum it up?
Dark Octave
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The song in the OP. I listened to it all the way to the end, so it was far from horrible, but I doubt I would put it on my playlist.
Jackben
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Good music exists and continues to be made every single day. Truth is everyone's opinion is biased because we listen to older music with rose-tinted headphones that color our past tastes with nostalgia.
The difference between you and me is that I've learned how to move on and discover what is amazing and groundbreaking today rather than wallow and complain about how good music doesn't exist anymore.
Don't get me wrong, the classics are great and we all have a period of time which we attach cherised signficance to. But don't expect everyone to agree with your old-man cloudshouting just because you don't know how to discover or refuse to experience new music.
It's possible you're just suffering from a disaese we call "being a cynical asshole":
The difference between you and me is that I've learned how to move on and discover what is amazing and groundbreaking today rather than wallow and complain about how good music doesn't exist anymore.
Don't get me wrong, the classics are great and we all have a period of time which we attach cherised signficance to. But don't expect everyone to agree with your old-man cloudshouting just because you don't know how to discover or refuse to experience new music.
It's possible you're just suffering from a disaese we call "being a cynical asshole":
Whenever I read threads like this, I get confused. Where do normal people get their music recommendations from?
I've been doing the same thing for about 10 years now. I read new music reviews, look at best album lists, and explore discographies until I get bored. Now with things like Pandora and last.fm, discovering music is so much easier.
Every music listener should have allmusic.com bookmarked....
I've been doing the same thing for about 10 years now. I read new music reviews, look at best album lists, and explore discographies until I get bored. Now with things like Pandora and last.fm, discovering music is so much easier.
Every music listener should have allmusic.com bookmarked....
that's a strange contemporary pick.
keep believing that..
Spectacular Dr Dawg
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Music has always been shit
NOISE NOT MUSIC
NOISE NOT MUSIC
arcade fire & animul callective obscure since when?
I'm glad my wife isn't like this. She isn't an enthusiast like me, but she still appreciates some good music, and has latched onto quite a few of the artists I really love. She doesn't listen to music in nearly the same way as me (I listen to albums, she shuffles through things), and does actively dislike some of the stuff I play, but I still think it's better than someone who has no interest at all in good artistic music.
By no means is this specific to women. A lot of men look for the same in music. It's the same with any form of art really. Some people tend to appreciate it at a deeper level than others. I know plenty of people who have absolutely no desire to actively seek out "good" music, it's just not a priority for them.
I'm quite familiar with how people express their tastes there:
1. Be a fan of the super obscure and tell others they don't get it.
2. Be a fan of the uber popular and prove their greatness through album sales.
That about sum it up?
no it doesn't. It really doesnt. Just come in the thread and ask tbh. It's better to ask than make assumptions
Charmicarmicat
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There is so much great and interesting music out there nowadays. Each month I get some great stuff, and normally at least one thing that is incredible and moves me as much as the stuff I loved when I was younger.
Just get Spotify, check out some of the stuff in the monthly listening thread, check out related artists etc, and it will all cascade from there.
Just get Spotify, check out some of the stuff in the monthly listening thread, check out related artists etc, and it will all cascade from there.
Been in there plenty. The whole "stan" and "shade" stuff is just sort of old, tired and uninteresting.
Mr. B Natural
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When your generation doesn't have a voice of its own, the generation's artists don't either. But it's not their fault. When you're going 10,000 mph, you're bound to hit the end of the road soon enough.
All the arts are a victim of overpopulation, over exploration and the scorch earth policy of capitalism and marketing and ease-of-access technology. It's a blurring effect. Everything is now so completely disposable that we have no vision, no opinion and no creative outlet that can't be ravaged in a weeks time by the populace, by marketers, by "artists" and wannabes, and ultimately can't be easily deduced as a rip-off of what has already been done, because it has. We're in scraps mode, artistically speaking as a culture because our culture went too fast for too long and has stalled.
In other words, we went from being so creatively "freed" by technology and social changes and population growth in the 20th century that we went from just doing classical musical and cultural heritage music for thousands of years (and nothing else) to creating jazz, rock, rap, techno, etc and all the subgenres thereof in less than a hundred AND exploring them rather fully AND getting tired of them just as quickly. We were going 100,000 miles per hours creatively, of course we were going to find the creative wall within 100 years. What should have been thousands and thousands of years of discovery was crammed into a few after the industrial and artistic revolutions of the 20th century.
Same thing happened to fine arts (from impressionism being considered a ridiculous concept to dadaism in 100 years!?...holy shit), fashion (orange is back, and so is the 80's again because the 2012 doesn't have a look because we're out of ideas. So, next year, let's bring back the 50's. Why not.), storytelling arts (sequels and remakes anybody? Fantasy, sci-fi, etc couldn't be any more repetitive than it is and yet we make more of that drivel than ever before).
Wanna blame something: blame archiving. We archive EVERYTHING now. There is no such thing as rediscovery. There was when somebody came up with Hercules when Gilgamesh already existed 2000 years before. People weren't aware of Gilgamesh, so it was ok. AND it was coming from a different culture, a different world with a true-to-the-time spin. Can't do that anymore. We know Hercules. We know Gilgamesh. We know everything AND the context AND the history. We got it all archived and we'll never forget.
Music is awful these days because it's obsolete. It's obsolete and yet we ramped up the quantity to compensate. It's already blurry, so who cares if it's blurrier? Our culture's creative and expressive prime is behind us. Our culture, artistically speaking, should have been dominated by now by people who think and work completely differently than us...but it hasn't. We're stuck with 7 billion people, still going 10,000 mph and yet have no where to go but back in time. You are not to ask what the point is, or the relevance of going back in time over and over again, you just need to consume. Buy that 1970's style shirt and shut up. It's not new. It's not relevant (it's "the in thing" because it is "the in thing"...it ultimately has nothing to do with the world around you) Buy that mp3 of a song that sounds like the Beatles again, or N*Sync again, or Dr. Dre again, etc. "But Jimmy Hendrix/Metallica/Miles Davis/Dylan/80's pop represented a time and place. You can't just replicate it and expect similar results." Shut up. Consume it. You like Jimmy Hendrix. You buy!
We live in the age of nostalgia. What's next? More nostalgia.
All the arts are a victim of overpopulation, over exploration and the scorch earth policy of capitalism and marketing and ease-of-access technology. It's a blurring effect. Everything is now so completely disposable that we have no vision, no opinion and no creative outlet that can't be ravaged in a weeks time by the populace, by marketers, by "artists" and wannabes, and ultimately can't be easily deduced as a rip-off of what has already been done, because it has. We're in scraps mode, artistically speaking as a culture because our culture went too fast for too long and has stalled.
In other words, we went from being so creatively "freed" by technology and social changes and population growth in the 20th century that we went from just doing classical musical and cultural heritage music for thousands of years (and nothing else) to creating jazz, rock, rap, techno, etc and all the subgenres thereof in less than a hundred AND exploring them rather fully AND getting tired of them just as quickly. We were going 100,000 miles per hours creatively, of course we were going to find the creative wall within 100 years. What should have been thousands and thousands of years of discovery was crammed into a few after the industrial and artistic revolutions of the 20th century.
Same thing happened to fine arts (from impressionism being considered a ridiculous concept to dadaism in 100 years!?...holy shit), fashion (orange is back, and so is the 80's again because the 2012 doesn't have a look because we're out of ideas. So, next year, let's bring back the 50's. Why not.), storytelling arts (sequels and remakes anybody? Fantasy, sci-fi, etc couldn't be any more repetitive than it is and yet we make more of that drivel than ever before).
Wanna blame something: blame archiving. We archive EVERYTHING now. There is no such thing as rediscovery. There was when somebody came up with Hercules when Gilgamesh already existed 2000 years before. People weren't aware of Gilgamesh, so it was ok. AND it was coming from a different culture, a different world with a true-to-the-time spin. Can't do that anymore. We know Hercules. We know Gilgamesh. We know everything AND the context AND the history. We got it all archived and we'll never forget.
Music is awful these days because it's obsolete. It's obsolete and yet we ramped up the quantity to compensate. It's already blurry, so who cares if it's blurrier? Our culture's creative and expressive prime is behind us. Our culture, artistically speaking, should have been dominated by now by people who think and work completely differently than us...but it hasn't. We're stuck with 7 billion people, still going 10,000 mph and yet have no where to go but back in time. You are not to ask what the point is, or the relevance of going back in time over and over again, you just need to consume. Buy that 1970's style shirt and shut up. It's not new. It's not relevant (it's "the in thing" because it is "the in thing"...it ultimately has nothing to do with the world around you) Buy that mp3 of a song that sounds like the Beatles again, or N*Sync again, or Dr. Dre again, etc. "But Jimmy Hendrix/Metallica/Miles Davis/Dylan/80's pop represented a time and place. You can't just replicate it and expect similar results." Shut up. Consume it. You like Jimmy Hendrix. You buy!
We live in the age of nostalgia. What's next? More nostalgia.
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That's a *nice* selection of good music.
I'm kinda out of touch with current music but even I find great stuff
Anglagard - Ur Vilande (prog rock / neo classical)
Mute - Swing of the Airwaves (modern prog)
Jaga Jazzist - One-Armed Bandit (experimental post rock nu jazz?)
Ladytron - White Elephant (synth pop)
Albatros - Ursus (psychedlic post rock prog)
Madder Mortem - Where Dream and Day Collide (progressive jazz metal?)
snoopeasystreet
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That new Passion Pit albumin is pretty great.
I forgot the crowd I was talking to.
Apologies if my statements offended anyone; I was merely speaking from my sliver of experience.
Supermanisdead
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song in the op kinda sux.
what does this mean?
SatelliteOfLove
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The digital age allowed intentional media niches where listeners can go to where the itch they desire to be scratched to be scratched and NOTHING else. Not even a sliver different. There are far fewer large-scale mixed venues.
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