It's definitely a really big deal
what happened to good music? no seriously
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It's definitely a really big deal
what do you mean?
We are just getting old. This stuff is lock in step with what granddad and to a lesser degree mom and dad were going on about when I/we were 10 - 13 years old man. Same shit, we are just in denial is all. That dubstep stuff just drives me crazy for the most part, kids love it though.
amusingly enough this was playing on my mp3 player when i was browsing this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRwLMC2wP0g
No one is going to took back on dubstep as good music. Just like no one goes back and says whatever they played for Mosh pits was great. Yeah it'll have a small niche but that's it. None of that shit will get radio play 10 years or even 5 years from now. It's literally noise. No musical value whatsoever. Kids eventually grow up and the garbage goes with it.
A lot of kids/teens don't even like dubstep. It's popular but it isn't "top-40" popular.
And this makes me realise a lot of this pertains to the US, while even our worst station still has a nice mix of music... except for the A-rotation. God, stop playing a song so often in a single day.
Lmao you really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
lol, I finished reading the thread.
So OP basically stayed in his shell just re-enforcing the stereotype of people being less flexible and perceptive the older they get.
I asked the same question two times on this forum and GAF provided plenty of good music.
So OP basically stayed in his shell just re-enforcing the stereotype of people being less flexible and perceptive the older they get.
I asked the same question two times on this forum and GAF provided plenty of good music.
MTV doesn't play music. It's not Music Television anymore.
Seems factual enough to me.
it was sarcastic in a sense that I was pointing out that OP got stuck in time because watching MTV and listening to radio was the way of discovering new music in 90s. Now it's not.
also MTV doesn't show music videos anymore, so what is factual about this?
Messofanego
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Oh god, not this revisionist nostalgia again.
Music is decentralised now thanks to the Internet, your favorite old genre is not on the radio because it had its heyday, radio music has always been bad, and you should start discovering music for yourself through Bandcamp, Pandora, Spotify, etc.
Oh yeah, get into post-rock. An awesome genre.
Music is decentralised now thanks to the Internet, your favorite old genre is not on the radio because it had its heyday, radio music has always been bad, and you should start discovering music for yourself through Bandcamp, Pandora, Spotify, etc.
Oh yeah, get into post-rock. An awesome genre.
He really doesnt. Let him pretend he does tho
I meant the fact that you had to dig further.
That's why I said MTV doesn't play videos.
I think we're on the same page, just disconnected somewhere.
teruterubozu
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Because American Top 40 is determined by Radio & Records and Billboard Magazine using Mediabase tracking of radio play for the last 40 years. It's a self-feeding mechanism. Which means it tracks what radio listeners request on radio - a diminishing and dying audience today. Thus the tracking is getting increasingly myopic and less varied. It has closed into an infinite feedback loop of Pop/R&B crap while everyone else has moved on to seeking out new ways of discovering music. In short, the radio has been kidnapped by the tasteless and passive while true music fans have moved on to a much deeper medium - the internet. So get with the program and leave the FM dial to its own demise.
MTV doesn't play music anymore and talk radio is now the most listened to format - looking for music in these dying venues is not representational of what's really going on. In the 80s and 90s, radio was practically all we had in terms of public expression of music - thank god that's not the case anymore.
DiscoJer
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Post rock? What is that, easy listening? Muzak? I guess Lawrence Welk will be coming back into fashion (if he's not already).
Personally, I wanna rock
http://youtu.be/SRwrg0db_zY?t=1m26s
But I guess that's the problem - rock music today doesn't.
teruterubozu
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On thing that has changed in music is that there is no more bona fide ROCKSTAR. The illusion of the larger-than-life 60s-80s ROCK GOD is gone and consequently rock music has lost some of its "epicness". Rock also used to champion sex, drugs and rock'n'roll, but rock today is equated as sad-angst&emo, while rap/r&b has taken over as the "good times" party music.
That's... post-rock. It focuses more on the instruments.
Messofanego
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There is plenty of revivalist music for those people like you who want just that sound back.
If you liked Black Sabbath and other heavy metal, give Christian Mistress a go.
If you liked punk, OFF is still making music, and there's Fucked Up if you want more modern punk.
If you liked psychedelic rock, give Tame Impala a go.
Same for pretty much any genre popular in 70s, 80s, and 90s.
Just search and ask! (although glad hair metal is gone, good riddance thanks to Brutal Legend
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Yesterday, I was introduced to this - Lindsey Stirling <3
I am listening to music from 1997 to 2006 these days and I have VIVA and MTV flashbacks and chills.
Yesterday, I was introduced to this - Lindsey Stirling <3
I am listening to music from 1997 to 2006 these days and I have VIVA and MTV flashbacks and chills.
Risible
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One of the great things about growing older is gaining perspective. Having lived through the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s I've seen how every decade has the same complaint - "Why does new music suck so much?"
Music hasn't changed, you have. There's TONS of good new music out there. It's just that as you get older your tastes calcify and nostalgia takes over and the music from your teen years becomes the "best" music.
Music hasn't changed, you have. There's TONS of good new music out there. It's just that as you get older your tastes calcify and nostalgia takes over and the music from your teen years becomes the "best" music.
Vermillion
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so call me maybe
WanderingWind
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Once again, your nostalgia and oldness clouds your perception of reality. This summer alone we've had that Gotye song, Fun, Adele, Kendrick Lamar, Wiz, Drake and Call Me Maybe dominating radio play on top 40...and a bunch of country songs that I personally don't care about. If your complaint is that grudge isn't on top 40 any longer, you may have a point.
You make up this playlist from the 90s like there also wasn't Toad the Wet Sprocket, Goo Goo Dolls, Mariah Carey, THE MACARENA, and a different boy band for every day of the week playing next to Nirvana and Smashing.
This "music sucks now and was better when X" has been happening forever. It's not an external thing...it's purely internal. You're changing and your inability to deal with aging is what causes this type of thinking. I mean, I'm right there with you, in some regards. Counting Crows is my favorite band ever and early to mid 90s rap is practically worshipped by hip hop heads.
But you need to identify it for what it is.
I think part of the problem for this is the death of the DJ. There was a time where a radio DJ had more power to play what he thought was good. So, you had hundreds of these little autonomous islands seeking out music and playing the best of it. Then Mtv came along and kind of dictated what everyone should play and the DJ lost more power. Than corporations were allowed to buy multiple radio stations and they began to strangle more power away and strictly format their stations across thousands of stations.
Now the "radio DJ" exists on the internet.
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As an aside, back in this era where you remember radio being better/good, there were a majority of 30-somethings and 40 year olds pining for the old days ... back when "music was good".
They were doing the same thing. They were clustering the entirety of the 60's and 70's and comparing it to a small window of modern time.
Delusibeta
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In this thread: old people wearing nostalgia goggles.
No lies detected
maquiladora
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Love her. So talented and so, so hot.
WorriedCitizen
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I still find plenty of new music that i like. Even more so then 20 years ago when i had to go to a store to listen to some new stuff or buy a CD by the cover and hope that it was tolerable music.
Also no nostalgia for the charts back then. There was so much crap on there already. From boy groups to euro dance to "funny songs". Sure there were some tolerable pop songs inbetween. But they are still there.
Also no nostalgia for the charts back then. There was so much crap on there already. From boy groups to euro dance to "funny songs". Sure there were some tolerable pop songs inbetween. But they are still there.
hardcastlemccormick
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This thread is full of people who don't understand the concept of Internet Radio.
It exists, it's free, and it's better than FM ever was at any point in history. You can even record it, stick it on a cheap MP3 player, and listen to it on your car like it's a live broadcast!
SomaFM gets my most play, but there's a ton of others.
It exists, it's free, and it's better than FM ever was at any point in history. You can even record it, stick it on a cheap MP3 player, and listen to it on your car like it's a live broadcast!
SomaFM gets my most play, but there's a ton of others.
MadOdorMachine
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Good music didn't disappear. Good bands did. We've been stuck in a rut of one hit wonders since digital distribution took over.
I will say that finding the harder rock songs are few and far between now. For the five years or so we've been on a 60's retro kick but music is pretty cyclical so it shouldn't be a shock this is happening.
I will say that finding the harder rock songs are few and far between now. For the five years or so we've been on a 60's retro kick but music is pretty cyclical so it shouldn't be a shock this is happening.
J-Roderton
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I don't know what you are talking about.
Damn straight.
(Study; The Verge) "Modern popular music does all sound the same, and it's getting louder too."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/30/3201618/pop-music-study
It's like a direct response to this thread. Stop listening to the radio!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/30/3201618/pop-music-study
It's like a direct response to this thread. Stop listening to the radio!
Davey Cakes
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With the advent of MP3 players and the growing popularity of iPods/iPhones and smartphones in general, you would've thought that radio would've died out years ago.
But nope. Most people still rely on the radio to get their music fix. What's even worse is that people who have MP3 players actually download (and pay for) the overplayed radio garbage to put on their MP3 players in 10 or 20-song playlists so that they can listen to it on the fly....EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULD HEAR IT ON THE RADIO CONSTANTLY ANYWAY.
It's as if some folks don't understand that MP3 players can serve as liberation from popular culture's musical dictations.
By the way, I'm talking about normal radio. Services like Pandora, XM/Sirius Satellite Radio, Rhapsody, etc. are decent alternatives if you just want something that plays to your taste.
But nope. Most people still rely on the radio to get their music fix. What's even worse is that people who have MP3 players actually download (and pay for) the overplayed radio garbage to put on their MP3 players in 10 or 20-song playlists so that they can listen to it on the fly....EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULD HEAR IT ON THE RADIO CONSTANTLY ANYWAY.
It's as if some folks don't understand that MP3 players can serve as liberation from popular culture's musical dictations.
By the way, I'm talking about normal radio. Services like Pandora, XM/Sirius Satellite Radio, Rhapsody, etc. are decent alternatives if you just want something that plays to your taste.
When you're old, you go between work and home everyday. By the stats, you're probably surfing Facebook, too. Basically, you're pretty bottled up in your own world.
Go out a lot, date a strange girl and get your heart broken, have a couple different jobs in a year. It will probably destroy your safe little life, but I guarantee you'll hear some fucking fantastic new music.
Go out a lot, date a strange girl and get your heart broken, have a couple different jobs in a year. It will probably destroy your safe little life, but I guarantee you'll hear some fucking fantastic new music.
this is truth.
My wife is like this. I used to be baffled by it, but I have come to understand that she just appreciates music in a different way. Instead of wanting music that challenges her, makes her think or broadens her horizons she just wants music that makes her hips move.
So, in that context, it doesn't matter if she has heard a dumb song once or 300 times. It still has the same effect on her, because the beat is solid.
I know so many women who are the same way. No genuine interest in art - they just want to be entertained.
It's actually great, because I get to look really smart and deep just by pulling out the poppiest Radiohead or neuvo-folk track I have on-hand.
Davey Cakes
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My ex-girlfriend was that way as well. She'd ask me to download singles and Top 40 material for her because she wanted something to run to at the gym. At least there was a purpose to it ("runnable music" I guess) but when she leaves and gets into her car she's just going to put on a pop station anyway. And when she goes to clubs she's going to hear the same stuff.
So basically, listening to the same kind of music in three different contexts. That's more the mindblowing part, considering the versatility of MP3 players.
Today's popular music doesn't even have "good" or "interesting" beats anyway. A ridiculously large portion of it sounds exactly the same. Head-bobbing material at best. I'm just surprised radio listeners don't get bored. I can understand that a nice beat is enjoyable to people but when it's the same shit over and over again then I'm just baffled.
So basically, listening to the same kind of music in three different contexts. That's more the mindblowing part, considering the versatility of MP3 players.
Today's popular music doesn't even have "good" or "interesting" beats anyway. A ridiculously large portion of it sounds exactly the same. Head-bobbing material at best. I'm just surprised radio listeners don't get bored. I can understand that a nice beat is enjoyable to people but when it's the same shit over and over again then I'm just baffled.
You are saying that if someone were to venture into popgaf they wouldn't find endless listings of sales figures (and associated claims of FAIL or WIN) and jillions of gifs of top 40 artists? Uh sure.
John Rabbit
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OP complains about lack of great music.
people post Underworld's amazing score from the opening ceremony.
fuck GAF, sometimes you astound me.
people post Underworld's amazing score from the opening ceremony.
fuck GAF, sometimes you astound me.
As many have already said, it's not that "good music" ended, what happened is that the "mainstream" as we knew it basically died. The music industry changed, we will always have great and successful records like Nevermind or Thriller (just examples) but I think we will never have singles causing mass hysteria among ALL audiences again, because the music market is more or less like books now, there's a little bit of everything for everyone, but the offerings are not longer limited to what the big labels want to hype anymore.
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