What if the next Halo SP was more like CoD SP?
- Thread starter godhandiscen
- Start date
i don't see why bungie can't incorporate parts of cod, specifically what iw managed to do with mw2, into the halo formula.
as fun as the gameplay is, it does start to feel a bit redundant after having the 5th dropship come with covenant reinforcements. with the type of setting halo is set in, it's a problem that there is no sense of urgency what so ever.
it's not like the only way to have a cinematic experience is to have the game play exactly like a cod title.
as fun as the gameplay is, it does start to feel a bit redundant after having the 5th dropship come with covenant reinforcements. with the type of setting halo is set in, it's a problem that there is no sense of urgency what so ever.
it's not like the only way to have a cinematic experience is to have the game play exactly like a cod title.
We saw in Halo: CE that you don't need fantastic explosions in the off-screen or a movie-like cinema in the SP to be a legendary playthrough. It just had the simple things right. I could replay it over and over without getting tired of any level... ok, well the Library I can live without, but everything else was ace.teepo said:
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
TacticalFox88 said:
Well, it was hard, but once you'd get past the first few levels (Flawless Cowboy was a bitch), you'd get used to it. I played the PC version, by the way.
Halo 2, on the other hand, was nearly impossible. I couldn't finish the first bloody level!
soldat7 said:
Bungie has nothing to do with Halo anymore.
The first level is SO MUCH FUN on Legendary. Good times playing that over and over using different strategies every time.REMEMBER CITADEL said:
Now, the last level, The Great Journey is another story. That fucking boss, holy shit, its a hair short of impossible on Legendary.
What, the giant monkey man? He wasn't that hard. I beat it on co-op with a buddy (and remember how one guy dying meant both guys had to restart on Halo 2 Legendary?) and then again by myself.enzo_gt said:
If there's something frustrating about that game, it's the first time you run into enemy snipers on Legendary. Getting one-shot isn't fun.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
enzo_gt said:
So could you give me some hints for DAT HANGAR? I must have lost three hours there before I finally gave up.
Future PhaZe
Member
I really enjoy the open ended sandbox that is Halo. I think a more serious vibe, both from an atmosphere perspective as well as an art design one, is necessary for Halo 4. I think the sandbox gameplay needs to return tenfold but adding more scripted elements is not something I would be sad to see. The hostage scene in Reach was a breath of fresh air.
Monocle
Member
I wouldn't buy a Halo game with COD-style scripting because I'm all about the sandbox. I find the most appealing aspect of Halo's formula to be the broad range of viable strategies for encounters and objectives. This is one of the main reasons most other FPSs don't do it for methey're too linear, too limited to allow the experimentation, tricking, exploration and wild speed running strategies that make Halo games so entertaining and replayable.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Dax01 said:
Just so I am clear were talking about Halo SP to COD SP right not mp? I ask cause I can't fathom anyone wanting to take the franchise with the most mediocre campaigns ever and put it into easily the consoles best.
COD SP is shit.
Co-op I see. Playing that shit alone is probably even more merciless. Fucking bullet sponge gave me nightmares.Dresden said:
Be methodical pretty much. Snipers are your worst threat because they'll rape you to hell and back. You have to assess priorities, and which enemies you should take out first, usually in order of which of them appear first. An enemy you aren't aware of is a threat, because you can get stuck and killed from the sides in a lot of those corridors pretty easily. There's a section with a turret, take out as many people as you can with the turret until you get hit for the first time, after that BAIL THE FUCK OUT.REMEMBER CITADEL said:
What do you mean art design exactly? Damn from an art perspective, I find Halo to be one of the most consistent franchises of recent memory. The Phantom for example is one beautifully crafted design on so many levels.Dark FaZe said:
bobs...onGaf
Member
Monocle said:
I think a halo esque sandbox driven game with CoDs ability to provide amazing scenarios would be great. A heavily scripted Halo game would suck, but a Halo game with more suprises like the Space combat would be cool. I would have loved it if you could stealth through Nightfall for example.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Jin34 said:
Can you? Jun seems to get trigger happy pretty quick? Ive managed to run past everything before, but never actually stealthed through.
bobs99 ... said:
Jun is part of what allows you to do it, near the beginning where the first enemies are below before you get to the sniping spot, there is an active camo ability. You can go around crouched with it on sneaking around from building to building. You only really have to fight when the Hunters come to stop Jun from planting the bomb.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
GhaleonEB said:
Ghaleon do you have any reason to think that 343 won't be capable of keeping the franchise up to the high standard it has been?
I'm kind of scared because I think 343 will end up going a linear experience route with whatever game they create. Which will likely be pressured to also have Kinect integration. Maybe the sandbox will exist to the point where this is a theatre mode and a bunch of customization options, but I feel like the core experience will end up being a linear one.GhaleonEB said:
The amount of integration and customization Bungie has constructed over the years in the Halo franchise is unparalleled in console FPSs.
Neuromancer
Member
Hey give me credit for trying. =\Haunted said:Misuse of a brilliant Overdrift quote right there.
Jesus christ. And to think this could be improved by several magnitudes, singlehandedly, just by making the enemy NPCs deal some damage.Nirolak said:
The swarm of dudes with assault rifles shooting at the player from three feet away was laughable. Methinks a fear of player frustration and a desire to have as many people finish the game as possible conspired to make this abomination possible.
theignoramus
Member
Jack Scofield said:
Whatever. I beat Reach on Legendary and I had a hell of a lot more enjoyable experience with than with Black Ops on Vet. (or either Modern Warfare)
The Librarian
Banned
This post is nonsense.Dresden said:
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
What if it was more like Half-Life? Cinematic with AI.
theignoramus
Member
As long as you're talking Half Life 1 and not its sequel (s).ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I would buy a Halo with a more engaging SP. It doesn't have to be COD scripted, but a cinematic structure to the SP help rather than hurt. Halo has a very cool universe and main character.
Halo may be more advanced in terms of tactical AI and free roaming levels, but it's not exactly fun. Halo 2 had a very dull campaign that I couldn't wait to complete.
Say what you want about CoD:Black Ops shortcomings, but it's single player is a lot more fun and repayable than Halo. You go from escaping a Russian prison, to bringing down helicopters, to repelling down mountains, to bursting through windows while repelling down mountains. You're having a blast the entire time.
CoD is very popular in ways that Halo isn't for good reason.
Halo may be more advanced in terms of tactical AI and free roaming levels, but it's not exactly fun. Halo 2 had a very dull campaign that I couldn't wait to complete.
Say what you want about CoD:Black Ops shortcomings, but it's single player is a lot more fun and repayable than Halo. You go from escaping a Russian prison, to bringing down helicopters, to repelling down mountains, to bursting through windows while repelling down mountains. You're having a blast the entire time.
CoD is very popular in ways that Halo isn't for good reason.
The day has come where Halo isn't 'very popular'? You are in the minority for thinking as such, and Call of Duty is more popular than Halo largely because of it's multiplayer, not the single player. Granted I haven't played the Single Player for Black Ops, but I'm 99.9% sure the multiplayer is a MUCH larger factor as to why it's currently more popular than Halo.Insertia said:
And re-playability is Halo's middle name. The wealth of customization, and the much larger absence of frustration and cheapness in favour of challenge is the reason why the Halo series' campaigns vastly surpass CoD campaigns in enjoyability for me.
TacticalFox88
Banned
That post speaks the absolute truth, aside from the Halo 2 comment. Reach was a serious step back.Dax01 said:
Yeah I agree with this, I can't even imagine what prompted that. That stupid covenant laser thing on Legendary that kills you in 2 seconds is totally a useless shitbomb when you pick it up.TacticalFox88 said:
I hated it on Legendary. I was dragged kicking and screaming by my pants-on-head retarded friend who insisted on not backing down.
I wouldn't mind if the next Halo picked up a few notes from COD4, mainly, story telling and pacing. That said, i don't think Halo should ever ditch its approach to combat...
Although i didn't love Halo Reach's sp campaign, the game has hands down the best combat you can find in a first person shooter.
Although i didn't love Halo Reach's sp campaign, the game has hands down the best combat you can find in a first person shooter.
VillageNinja
Banned
Call of Duty is less of a game than Heavy Rain and has more direct comparisons with a children's pop-up book.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Halo's played liked CoD since Halo 2.