What is going on on Giant Bomb right now?

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So, you feel entitled to the position just because you are a woman?

I'm not a woman and I do not want to work at GB. I think it's absolutely fair to question why GB lacks diversity. Claiming that there are no women qualified to work there does not cut it.
 
To be honest, I was disappointed that the new hires turned out to be 2 more white guys.

I can't even imagine the reactions that will occur if the New York expansion ends up
with even more white dudes.

Same. Same same same. Really disappointed, and the more I think about it the more disappointed I am.
 
Seems like dumb people on the internet overreacted and got mad on the internet and then other dumb people on the internet got mad in reaction and in turn also became dumb on the internet.

Par for the course.
 
Pretty ignorant response, but the whole "what if X was the most qualified for the position" is one of my most hated statements. It's an element that cannot realistically be measured for accuracy, and all it does is deflect blame without actually engaging the true issue at hand. I'll just say this. White males are overrepresented in a lot of areas, and by direct relation, female and minorities or minority females are severely underrepresented. So either white males are truly the right people for the job the overwhelming majority of the time, or there's some other things at play.

This would be a reasonable argument, but it just doesn't apply to Giant Bomb. The entire site is built on intrapersonal relationships. Dan made sense because he'd already done a ton of stuff with the guys, showed that he had chemistry, and had a ton of relevant experience. Plus he was in a position with little clear future, and was willing to make the move. Really, there wasn't anybody - male or female - who was in a better spot to take the job.
If this was IGN, or Gamespot, or Polygon - it would be completely rational to criticize the pick. There are fewer barriers to taking on one of those positions, and it'd be a good chance to embrace new opinions.
 
Does anyone think its in poor taste for anyone to be attacking Giantbomb around this time when it comes to hiring new people? One of their main personalities, Ryan Davis, passed away going on exactly a year ago.
 
If people are going to complain bitterly about the state of hiring, they should probably actually be applying for those jobs. Standing on the sidelines saying things aren't changing but not doing a damn thing to actually change them aside from complaining after the fact doesn't accomplish anything. If 90+% of the applicants are of the 'white male' variety, that's probably what they'll end up hiring.

I read some of the articles linked from tweets on the subjects and I guess I don't understand ones like this.

When she gets a chance, she admittedly submits sub-par pitches - though there's an excuse - but gets a chance anyway. Seems like "the man" wants to work with her, but in the end she doesn't submit anything - again with an excuse. She promises to come back with new pitches and...apparently never does.

Sorry, but if that was 'just another white guy' submitting shitty pitches, they probably wouldn't get that second chance. If they no-showed an assignment, they sure as hell wouldn't get a third.
 
I find it incredibly hard to believe that in a city as diverse as San Francisco, that
they could not have found 2 qualified individuals that are not white or male.

I'm reserving most of my criticism for now, until I see what Giant Bomb New York
ends up hiring.

Both those cities have huge gaming communities stretching across numerous
ethnicity and genders/sexuality. I will unsub from the site if they end up repeating
the same thing happening in San Francisco.
So they have to fill the diversity quota or you'll be unhappy? That makes no sense!
 
I find it incredibly hard to believe that in a city as diverse as San Francisco, that
they could not have found 2 qualified individuals that are not white or male.

I'm reserving most of my criticism for now, until I see what Giant Bomb New York
ends up hiring.

Both those cities have huge gaming communities stretching across numerous
ethnicity and genders/sexuality. I will unsub from the site if they end up repeating
the same thing happening in San Francisco.
Why should they need to specifically look for someone based on race or gender? What about all of the other people who were rejected that are also white males? Do they simply not matter?
 
Wait, she didn't apply, and she's upset that she didn't get the position? I am super confused.

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Can't people just be humans instead of colours? Two guys got hired. Who cares what colour their skin is? Jesus.

Apparently this is an extremely difficult concept to grasp looking at the reactions. Beyond that, they both seem like great fits. I take it some think that the GB dudes should have been ticking race and gender boxes and making decisions based on diversity for diversity's sake when looking for the new hires? Such a bizarre argument.
 
What is it about Giantbomb that turns internet nerds into slavering man-babies?

Personally I think GB should have one black person, one yellow person, one brown person and one woman.
They can then add a white man if they have the time.
 
Pretty ignorant response, but the whole "what if X was the most qualified for the position" is one of my most hated statements. It's an element that cannot realistically be measured for accuracy, and all it does is deflect blame without actually engaging the true issue at hand. I'll just say this. White males are overrepresented in a lot of areas, and by direct relation, female and minorities or minority females are severely underrepresented. So either white males are truly the right people for the job the overwhelming majority of the time, or there's some other things at play.

or the interviewers of the candidates thought the people they hired interview better or had better, more, and/or most applicable references/resume/past work experience. unless you had some concrete proof...why would you automatically jump to the conclusion that gender had anything to do with their decision?
 
There are probably 100 white males to every non-white male applying for these jobs. It blows my mind that this is surprising to anybody.

Anyways, using race or gender as a qualification for hiring is disgusting and patronizing. If I ever got a job over someone else because I was Mexican and he was white, I'd turn it down.

Yes? Are you saying only white males are qualified for the type of media content they produce?

You're just as bad as that Samantha Allen chick. No one said that.
 
You hire the person with the best ability and attitude to do the job. Race or gender has nothing to do with it.



Reddit has been stirring up trouble too.

wow that tweet, she's pretty amazing, i thought she was friends with them from that drunken e3 podcast
 
The main issue here is that Leigh and Samantha are known entities. They're very vocal about these social issues, and I'm 100% sure they have a follower base dedicated solely to harassing them for their opinions at this point.

This probably could've been any website, and they would've gotten the same response. These trolls are just waving the GB flag, and it's causing the crew to denounce them openly.
 
Even if that does end up happening, why does it matter? You're literally arguing that they should hire people to fill a diversity quota...

If Giant Bomb opens an office in New York and hires all white males, you really think people criticizing that are arguing to fill a diversity quota? I think that would more hint at the structural bias of videogame journalism when it comes to hiring women more than anything else.

You can never really tell people are hired based purely on their qualifications, as people can be unintentionally racist/sexist. Hiring more women will make it easier for more women to enter the industry.
 
Why should they need to specifically look for someone based on race or gender? What about all of the other people who were rejected that are also white males? Do they simply not matter?

They don't. You need the quota. Doesn't matter if its the right person, you just need the quota so everybody can be happy.
 
Giant Bomb always came across to me as a bunch of friends, and now the friends have hired more of their friends as they expand a little. The feeling that they are a bunch of friends giving honest opinions about the games they play and the media they watch is what makes them stand out, honestly.
 
I wonder if anyone will change their minds on the situation if the Giant Bomb New York ends up being all white males, or if it will be more "Well obviously they were the most qualified!"
These guys seem to have previous experience and something like that simply can't simply be underestimated. It's something you should know If you ever looked for a job.
I'm all for filling quotas for more diversity and equality, but ONLY when deciding between candidates with similar qualifications. Hiring someone less qualified just for the sake of filling a quota carries all sort of risks.
 
Finally, accusations of reverse racism, reverse sexism. I was waiting for this so I can have a big laugh.
are you insinuating that whites are impervious to racism and males are impervious to sexism? furthermore "reverse-racism" and "reverse-sexism" are idiotic misnomers for what they really are, racism and sexism. to connote that racism and sexism typically only go "one way" (that is, by the use of 'reverse' you are calling out what you feel to be an exception to the 'normal' flow of these things) is in and of itself, discriminatory language. that only certain groups are capable of being discriminated against whereas others are not. this is different from institutionalized racism/sexism, which rewards certain groups over others through patterns of social behavior and socio-economic factors. whites, males, and white males are typically NOT the targets of discriminatory behavior because of institutionalized racism/sexism, but they are not as such, completely immune to these things on a individual level.

Didn't Giant Bomb get the memo that all things video game related need to meet the new SJW-approved diversity quota?
wanting diversity in the workplace has nothing to do with being a "social justice warrior" and more to do with "making sure everyone has a fair shake".
 
]I find it incredibly hard to believe that in a city as diverse as San Francisco, that
they could not have found 2 qualified individuals that are not white or male.[/B]

I'm reserving most of my criticism for now, until I see what Giant Bomb New York
ends up hiring.

Both those cities have huge gaming communities stretching across numerous
ethnicity and genders/sexuality. I will unsub from the site if they end up repeating
the same thing happening in San Francisco.

The process of finding the correct applicant doesn't always include a particular genre. It's a selection based on those who applied and those with skill.

That's not to say that there isn't favoritism floating about, but GB isn't really a culprit. Take issue with real events, don't create them out of thin air.
 
I feel really bad for the two guys that did get hired. They must be seeing this shitstorm and thinking their qualifications just don't matter to some people, only race and gender does.
 
You hire the person with the best ability and attitude to do the job. Race or gender has nothing to do with it.
Out of two people with the same ability and attitude, the one of the same gender and ethnicity as the interviewer/employer is perceived to be a bit "better". So yeah, race and gender does have a big impact in the hiring process, and it's really difficult to get around even if you're aware of the effect (if you were indeed implying that everyone up for a job position is on equal ground).

As for the situation at hand, not much to do about it. If Giant Bomb had a goal to hire women they've failed at that, if not they're free to hire whoever they want (not sure what the US law says about equality plans and the like). A lot of the sexism on display in the community (presumably from young white males) will be gone by age ~20, but GB would do well to lead by example.
 
I find it incredibly hard to believe that in a city as diverse as San Francisco, that
they could not have found 2 qualified individuals that are not white or male.

I'm reserving most of my criticism for now, until I see what Giant Bomb New York
ends up hiring.

Both those cities have huge gaming communities stretching across numerous
ethnicity and genders/sexuality. I will unsub from the site if they end up repeating
the same thing happening in San Francisco.

Hypothetical situation:

White male, 10 years of experience
Non-white female, 1 year of experience

You only have the budget for one person. Who do you hire?
 
Giant Bomb always came across to me as a bunch of friends, and now the friends have hired more of their friends as they expand a little. The feeling that they are a bunch of friends giving honest opinions about the games they play and the media they watch is what makes them stand out, honestly.
If they were just hiring friends why didn't they just ask their friends instead of putting up a job where anybody can apply?
 
What's hilarious is that we're discussing the wrong issue completely. Dan and Jason getting hired has nothing to do with them being two white males. It's an irrelevant point.

The issue here is that Giantbomb hired two people who have been in the industry for many years. Instead of bringing someone new into the industry instead the trend of just trading the same old guard around from company to company continues which furthers the inclusive nature of the industry. It's the same problem across pretty much all industry.

If they were just hiring friends why didn't they just ask their friends instead of putting up a job where anybody can apply?

Because you can't do that. They had to put the position up publicly. They had always planned on hiring these two but CBSi is required to take applications for the job.
 
I'm saying it doesn't matter what color their skin is or what gender they are. That shouldn't come into play when hiring people.

Eh to some degree it should. While it doesn't apply to everybody, and there are always exceptions, there's a reason that we have affirmative action. Even though it can result in some BS, for the most part it makes a lot of sense. It's the kinda thing that has a long term benefit, so that eventually it won't be needed (hopefully). But for the most part I agree with others in that I mainly go to Gb for the bombcast, and quite frankly I want the people that the original crew are most comfortable with, not just a woman or minority brought on for "
those perspectives". There's plenty of perspective from all shapes and sizes around this industry, but I go to GB for the people there, not for their diversity.

Sorry if that makes me shitty (not specifically talking to you Ava)
 
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