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[Enosh]

What? Europeans usually made their swords from iron....Thus, why the Europeans were surprised by the quality of Japanese swords (being almost always made from steel.) I believe that European swords also broke a lot (compared to jpn swords.)

by the time Europeans got to Japan quite a lot of the old swordsmith tehniques were lost, due to them not being important anymore

thing is japanese steel was impure, hence the multiple layers in a katana, to spread out those impurities evenly over the blade

also keep in mind that a high grade katana was of better quality than some random European sword, but then look at the time it takes to make the katana and the time in which you can make the sword

now on the high end level, Europe has access to Damascus steel and some Spanish steel whose name I now forgot, which were both of much better quality than anything found in japan

also remember that samurais were buying plate armor from the dutch due to it's quality to replace their traditional armor from bamboo and silk

 

[ScientificNinja]

Why do some people think Asian culture is really all that great?

I crack on the weeaboos alot, my basis on the fetishization of Asian, or maybe more specifically Japanese culture. I just don't know what's so great about it.

Being Korean myself, I find so many issues with it, filial piety, Confucian ideals, status issues. Blah.

Yeah the girls are cute, but....they don't shave.

I think there are a lot of things about the different Asian cultures that are far and away more evolved than Western cultures, but none are the kind that I've seen fanboys go batshit insane over. The Westerners I've experienced who put Asian cultures on a pedestal are after a freakshow or looking for a way to justify their lack of integration with the rest of society.

 

[2San]

Places like India have their outsider fans too.. But I'd say that a culture like that is far more dependant in being raised there to enjoy it.

Yeah an female Indian friend of mine went on vacation to China with her family, for she heard some bollywood music and went to check it out and people where actually taking pictures of them.

I was lolwut non brown people like that stuff as well? (To be fair a handfull of movies are well done all the drama's are shit though)

 

[Apath]

I don't know... I kinda wanna move to Japan so I can eat Japanese food all the time... but I can just visit and even then I don't think it's worth it. China too.

 

[Dresden]

GAF has failed me. No one has yet to bring up the average penis size for Koreans.

Serious answer: I'm sick of weaboos and their usual assortment of Sony fanboyism and -chan suffix obsession, too. But you have freaks in every society.

 

[2San]

GAF has failed me. No one has yet to bring up the average penis size for Koreans.

Serious answer: I'm sick of weaboos and their usual assortment of Sony fanboyism and -chan prefix obsession, too. But you have freaks in every society.

Does anyone use the -chan prefix though? You'd probably would even get laughed at in this forum and this is a gaming forum(just saying we aren't the coolest bunch around).

 

[Dresden]

Does anyone use the -chan prefix though? You'd probably would even get laughed at in this forum and this is a gaming forum(just saying we aren't the coolest bunch around).

Not when posting, I mean. I'm talking about the people who start raging whenever fansubs or scanlations drop the -kun or -chan. I guess the integrity of their animu is compromised when that happens.

 

[Mana Sin]

Does anyone use the -chan prefix though? You'd probably would even get laughed at in this forum and this is a gaming forum(just saying we aren't the coolest bunch around).

GAF has failed me. No one has yet to bring up the average penis size for Koreans.
Serious answer: I'm sick of weaboos and their usual assortment of Sony fanboyism and -chan prefix obsession, too. But you have freaks in every society.

.. Suffix.

 

[Dresden]

.. Suffix.

Oops, thanks.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

A bit off topic, but relevant;

I think this next century is going to be all about Asia in the same way that this past century was all about the Anglosphere, more specifically the United States.

 

[BocoDragon]

Yeah an female Indian friend of mine went on vacation to China with her family, for she heard some bollywood music and went to check it out and people where actually taking pictures of them.

I was lolwut non brown people like that stuff as well? (To be fair a handfull of movies are well done all the drama's are shit though)

Yeah.. Actually my mother, a white Canadian, is a total indiaphile.

You know what, people just like what they like.. If they like things outside of their own culture, or they even like one culture in particular.. Well so what? I'm glad arts and culture are actually rather universal concepts, and they aren't actually tied to ethnicity or the culture in which they were raised.

Also.. They whole point of USA or Canada is to integrate aspects of cultures from all around the world.

 

[Jangaroo]

A bit off topic, but relevant;

I think this next century is going to be all about Asia in the same way that this past century was all about the Anglosphere, more specifically the United States.

Hopefully I'll live long enough to discredit this statement.

 

[2San]

.. Suffix.

I'm sorry English isn't my first language. :O

Not when posting, I mean. I'm talking about the people who start raging whenever fansubs or scanlations drop the -kun or -chan. I guess the integrity of their animu is compromised when that happens.

I can actually somewhat understand that since the suffix changes the way a line is delivered. It's not just an East Asian thing. Other cultures have the same thing with the suffixes.

Yeah.. Actually my mother, a white Canadian, is a total indiaphile.

You know what, people just like what they like.. If they like things outside of their own culture, or they even like one culture in particular.. Well so what? I'm glad arts and culture are actually rather universal concepts, and they aren't actually tied to ethnicity or the culture in which they were raised.

Also.. They whole point of USA or Canada is to integrate aspects of cultures from all around the world.

Pretty much, I just enjoy what the good parts the various cultures offer. I don't think one culture is better then the other though.

 

[harSon]

In the actual East Asia, most of the East Asian nations are ethnically very homogeneous. Asian cultural mixing is a very recent thing, it hasn't even been 2 generations where the Asian peoples have been on speaking terms. I think a lot of the Asians who stay tied to immigrant communities are folllowing the examples of their parents and grandparents there by not mixing with other East Asian groups. This will undoubtedly change, even as economic and cultural integration accelerates in East Asia, it will spill over to the immigrant communities in the States. First young Asians need to outlive the hell out of the old generation who dominate the governments and politics of China, Japan, and South Korea who are STILL nursing old grudges from World War II. Once all the old bitter politicians are dead, we will probably see some real formal reconciliation and then the cultural and ethnic mixing will accelerate dramatically. It's not a stretch to say that even a few decades ago stars like Takeshi Kaneshiro, who is half Taiwanese and half Japanese, would never have made it big like he is today. Hell, that guy can still tell stories about how he was viciously ostracized growing up in Taiwan because he was half Japanese. There's a lot of work still to be done to integrate the East Asian peoples.

It's weird though, it's not like all of the Vietnamese band together with the other Vietnamese (unless they're immigrants), Asians of all backgrounds simply start to gravitate towards each other. And it doesn't happen until after elementary I've noticed, it almost always starts in middle school and gets consistently worst as they progress through school system.

The area I live in is dominated by Vietnamese and Mexicans (East San Jose, CA), and I (I'm Black, Japanese, Spanish, Italian and Irish but look like a light skinned black person for the most part) had to look outside of my area to find a job. Most stores were either Vietnamese or Mexican, and neither were willing to hire someone outside of their ethnic group. They really need to do something to change that :/

 

[Aruarian Reflection]

I hate Kin Yu Na.

Only because every Korean I know is batshit crazy about her, and has been for the last week, I'm sick of it.

I want her to date Apolo Ohno.

Brilliant reason for hating someone! You sound like the typical disgruntled, self-loathing Asian-American. Growing up in the largest community of Chinese in the U.S., I've encountered plenty of people just like you.

 

[numble]

Hopefully I'll live long enough to discredit this statement.

"This next century" refers to either 2010-2110, or 2101-2200.

 

[cooljeanius]

Great minds think alike...

 

[Black-Wind]

many reasons

the most important being that a sword in Japan during the medieval times was realy fucking expensive

try to imagine how expensive an ipod is
now imagine how expensive that ipod seems to a guy in sub saharan africa who can barely aford a cow

that's how expensive katanas were

due to beter metalurgy in Europe and access to beter steel (the steel in japan was downright awfull compared to the stuff europe had access to, hence the many folds of a katana, to spread the weak points equaly over the whole blade, since a blade like a chain is defined by it's weakest point)

well due to that swords in europe were quite cheap and easy to mass produce (which is another thing, making a sword with the crappy japanase steel takes a lot more time than making an equaly good sword with european steel, time that the guy could be making some more usefull stuff, like arrow heads)
when you pay twice your mortage on a fucking sword you better make it look like it is the best thing since sliced bread, so you crank it up to 11 and greatly exgragate the qualitys of that sword. From this came the ritualization of the katana and thus samurais in japan, in europe on the other hand sword never recived this kind of special treatment, they were just tools, fairly cheap and quite easy to get one of good quality, the only important ones were if some killed a great amount of poor peasants wth them

a lot of Europes knowleadge os swordfighting was also lost with the advent of gun powder and the historyans of the 17th and 18th century made the whole thing seem like just bashing around without any skill involved in it which can't be further from the truth, European martial arts regarding combat with swords were just as precise and detailed as the japanese ones, if not even more since European swords offered advantages the katana didn't have, half sword grips, the pommel etc etc

Hummm, interesting.

Maybe I should look into this.

Anyway, I'm also happy about the backlashing against otaku culture. Last thing I want is shit tons of young kids today to keep drawing their artist and story inspiration from anime. >_>

Happy to hear from teachers that employers over here LOL at demo-reels with anime characters all over them before throwing them out.

 

[Jangaroo]

"This next century" refers to either 2010-2110, or 2101-2200.

Which is why I added the hopefully. You never know, I might be a centurian.

 

[zoku88]

by the time Europeans got to Japan quite a lot of the old swordsmith tehniques were lost, due to them not being important anymore

thing is japanese steel was impure, hence the multiple layers in a katana, to spread out those impurities evenly over the blade

also keep in mind that a high grade katana was of better quality than some random European sword, but then look at the time it takes to make the katana and the time in which you can make the sword

now on the high end level, Europe has access to Damascus steel and some Spanish steel whose name I now forgot, which were both of much better quality than anything found in japan

also remember that samurais were buying plate armor from the dutch due to it's quality to replace their traditional armor from bamboo and silk

I didn't say Europeans didn't have access to steel, just that they didn't use them to make swords.

Anyway, didn't Europeans lose steel making techniques up until the 1800's or so?

EDIT: I've never really studied Euro swords before, so I may be wrong. And if I am, I apologize. But the first contact between japan and euros should have been around the 1500s or so (i believe?) so melee weapons were still in wide use during that time in Europe.

EDIT2: Looking it up, the popular use of Damascus steel for swords wasn't very long before the first contacts with the Japanese...

 

[harSon]

I don't get why people hate on those who are obsessed with Eastern culture. It's similar to whites who frown on other whites who are into hip hop, or blacks who hate on other blacks they consider to be "too white", etc. Who gives a shit? If someone is passionate about something and it's not immoral or illegal, more power to them.

 

[Jex]

Anyway, I'm also happy about the backlashing against otaku culture. Last thing I want is shit tons of young kids today to keep drawing their artist and story inspiration from anime. >_>

Nope, thats going to keep happening and the backlash will just make them stronger.

Real answer : It's just like, a very small portion of people which are then grossly over-represented on the internet. The internet does tend to distort stuff. Really, I've never encountered a true 'weebo' in my life, although that could just be due to where I live.

Really, it's like any other group that forms around something - for whatever reason they think part of culture x sucks and therefore approve more of cultre/group y.

 

[Blackace]

What is it with misleading thread titles?

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Brilliant reason for hating someone! You sound like the typical disgruntled, self-loathing Asian-American. Growing up in the largest community of Chinese in the U.S., I've encountered plenty of people just like you.

I'm not self loathing. I just hate Kim Yu Na insanity. I love me. All the time, then I cry myself to sleep.

 

[OneEightZero]

Use it before you lose your avatar.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

thanks

 

[OJdaKiller]

Well I'm from the U.S first of all.

Granted, I've only been to Japan twice, but in a nutshell here's why I think it's better than the U.S. I do understand only 2 visits can not sum up an entire country but regardless of that.

Japan is clean. The U.S is dirty. Japan's subways/buses/people, streets, businesses all seem to be really well-kept. I was impressed by this. People taking pride in their surroundings benefits everyone...This is unlike the U.S where people only care about benefiting themselves.

The Japanese appear to take pride in whatever they do. This relates well to the first point. From my experiences, the guy sweeping the subway to the employee at McDonalds, to the bus driver, or manager of a hotel, all seem to be equally respectful and doing their best at whatever they do. In the U.S when I go to McDonalds, I expect shitty service and a subpar attitude. If I receive better than that, it's been a good trip. In Japan it seemed everyone had a sense of self-pride, and didn't carry the "I'm too good for this attitude" that is so prevalent in U.S.

Japan is safe. Being a tourist simply wandering about at in large cities, I didn't have anyone hassling me for money/talking shit, etc. Stuff was crowded but I never felt safety was an issue. Also I'm fairly certain in general Japan's crime rate is fairly low, so it makes sense.

ETC....Yeah and also Japan is the home of gaming and additionally weird shit. To me this makes them interesting...Adults are allowed to act like kids but still live the life of adults (read comics, play games, do wacky stuff). In the U.S there is supposed to be a bigger division which is kind of sad..."Act your age" type of stuff..

So yeah, from my limited experiences, Japan is a place I can not only respect but also find interesting and fun....Better than the mundane U.S that is dirtier, less safe, and full of people with selfish bad attitudes....

P.S...And Japanese women are hot..

 

[kaizoku]

I don't get why people hate on those who are obsessed with Eastern culture. It's similar to whites who frown on other whites who are into hip hop, or blacks who hate on other blacks they consider to be "too white", etc. Who gives a shit? If someone is passionate about something and it's not immoral or illegal, more power to them.

man (cos there are no women on gaf right?) has a point.

all these types of behaviour associated with a certain race are cross culture and thats how cultures mix and evolve.

I do find it really weird that so many Asians now do the whole white wedding in a church thing, or think christianity is fashionable. thats just bizarre unless they're christian, which I still find to be pretty rare in Asian cultures.

but fact is its no longer a white or western thing, its just a thing.

 

[Blackace]

The funny thing is living in Japan you see a ton of people who feel the same way about America or the UK... The grass is greener on the otherside.

 

[Kaeru]

Well I'm from the U.S first of all.

Granted, I've only been to Japan twice, but in a nutshell here's why I think it's better than the U.S. I do understand only 2 visits can not sum up an entire country but regardless of that.

Japan is clean. The U.S is dirty. Japan's subways/buses/people, streets, businesses all seem to be really well-kept. I was impressed by this. People taking pride in their surroundings benefits everyone...This is unlike the U.S where people only care about benefiting themselves.

The Japanese appear to take pride in whatever they do. This relates well to the first point. From my experiences, the guy sweeping the subway to the employee at McDonalds, to the bus driver, or manager of a hotel, all seem to be equally respectful and doing their best at whatever they do. In the U.S when I go to McDonalds, I expect shitty service and a subpar attitude. If I receive better than that, it's been a good trip. In Japan it seemed everyone had a sense of self-pride, and didn't carry the "I'm too good for this attitude" that is so prevalent in U.S.

Japan is safe. Being a tourist simply wandering about at in large cities, I didn't have anyone hassling me for money/talking shit, etc. Stuff was crowded but I never felt safety was an issue. Also I'm fairly certain in general Japan's crime rate is fairly low, so it makes sense.

ETC....Yeah and also Japan is the home of gaming and additionally weird shit. To me this makes them interesting...Adults are allowed to act like kids but still live the life of adults (read comics, play games, do wacky stuff). In the U.S there is supposed to be a bigger division which is kind of sad..."Act your age" type of stuff..

So yeah, from my limited experiences, Japan is a place I can not only respect but also find interesting and fun....Better than the mundane U.S that is dirtier, less safe, and full of people with selfish bad attitudes....

P.S...And Japanese women are hot..

yes yes yes!

And the fact that Japan is very homogeneous and has a completely unique flair. Its really like visiting another planet. Sure they have mcdonalds, mtv and that other crap but theres still so many things there that you cannot find anywhere else. And most of them are good.

 

[diztrukted]

i noticed this too! what is this board turning into

 

[Blackace]

yes yes yes!

And the fact that Japan is very homogeneous and has a completely unique flair. Its really like visiting another planet. Sure they have mcdonalds, mtv and that other crap but theres still so many things there that you cannot find anywhere else. And most of them are good.

I love Japan, and I love Seattle..

Now in my 7th year here married and with a home... I don't see most of these (not exaclty your post but it was shorter than the one you quoted) to be valid...

I majored in Japanese history and culture and to this day still study it.. But I think a lot of stuff at face value is over-blown..

 

[Black-Wind]

Nope, thats going to keep happening and the backlash will just make them stronger.

Real answer : It's just like, a very small portion of people which are then grossly over-represented on the internet. The internet does tend to distort stuff. Really, I've never encountered a true 'weebo' in my life, although that could just be due to where I live.

Really, it's like any other group that forms around something - for whatever reason they think part of culture x sucks and therefore approve more of cultre/group y.

Nope, the backlash will shut that shit down when they can't get any jobs in media arts fields because no one wants to hire the person with the 5000th buster blade and FF bike modeling/ generic anime styled animation/ genetic anime styled CHARACTERS plastered on a demo reels.

YES, there are tons of these people in my school. I go to a art school and my major (Media Arts and Animation) has tons of people who damn dear eat, drink and shit anime, drawing almost nothing but exclusively in that style. The teachers tell them that that shit gets throw into the garbage bag when employers are looking at demo reels but that doesn't stop them from doing it.

Have yet to see more then one person from my school who ONLY does anime shit get a good job. And even she was massively good and talented at concept art (only seeming to use anime as a character design choice) unlike the generic stuff the others do.

 

[BocoDragon]

Nope, the backlash will shut that shit down when they can't get any jobs in media arts fields because no one wants to hire the person with the 5000th buster blade and FF bike modeling/ generic anime styled animation/ genetic anime styled CHARACTERS plastered on a demo reels.

YES, there are tons of these people in my school. I go to a art school and my major (Media Arts and Animation) has tons of people who damn dear eat, drink and shit anime, drawing almost nothing but exclusively in that style. The teachers tell them that that shit gets throw into the garbage bag when employers are looking at demo reels but that doesn't stop them from doing it.

Have yet to see more then one person from my school who ONLY does anime shit get a good job. And even she was massively good and talented at concept art (only seeming to use anime as a character design choice) unlike the generic stuff the others do.

If these people were born in Japan they'd be lucky, because they draw in the only style which would get them jobs over there..

 

[Medalion]

What's with x supremacy threads lately? :lol

 

[Natetan]

I love Japan, and I love Seattle..

Now in my 7th year here married and with a home... I don't see most of these (not exaclty your post but it was shorter than the one you quoted) to be valid...

I majored in Japanese history and culture and to this day still study it.. But I think a lot of stuff at face value is over-blown..

Kinda how I feel. There are problems in both countries. Both have downsides, but both have upsides too.

What was said about Japan earlier is fairly true. Taxi drivers, garbage collectors, etc. all seem to treat their job seriously, probably most likely because there seems to be less social distaste towards them than in other places. Hard to say really.

My favorite points are the trains, the food, and the great (to me almost ideal) mix of capitalism and socialism in Japan. It seems to be able to do both of them very well. Too bad the country doesn't have a very bight future if you look at the statistics

In other areas though, Japan seems to just have what I'm looking for. I really like minimalist architecture, and Japan is probably at the forefront in that. Muji has elements of that too, and the first time I saw muji stuff it struck a chord with me. Not simply because it was a Japanese product.

 

[Blackace]

If these people were born in Japan they'd be lucky, because they draw in the only style which would get them jobs over there..

The funny thing is even if they moved here they'd have to be very talented to find a job here in that field..

 

[Zoramon089]

I have a question, why do asians of older generations hate black people? I was talking to some of my asian friends and they're always talking about their parents talking about black people and how their parents are like "You can date anyone but blacks and hispanics" and it always surprised me. Of course, they always have a preference for asians, especially those of the same ethnicity, but they seemed to think poorly of blacks. Why is this?

Not to say, this is the case for all of them. I have a Korean friend whose parents love my brother and I

 

[Rentahamster]

you see a ton of people who feel the same way about America or the UK... The grass is greener on the otherside.

Yep.

But I think a lot of stuff at face value is over-blown..

Yep. There's a lot of rose-tinted glasses in here. It's a nice place, but it's not a Utopia.

 

[Blackace]

I have a question, why do asians of older generations hate black people? I was talking to some of my asian friends and they're always talking about their parents talking about black people and how their parents are like "You can date anyone but blacks and hispanics" and it always surprised me. Of course, they always have a preference for asians, especially those of the same ethnicity, but they seemed to think poorly of blacks. Why is this?

Not to say, this is the case for all of them. I have a Korean friend whose parents love my brother and I

They have a lot of 2nd hand stereotypes... Also if you are talking about Koreans and blacks in the US there is a lot of bad blood between the two, on the west coast most of all...

My wife's mother kind of said the same thing at first..but quickly dismissed it after my wife told her about me.. Most Asians in their home country have little contact with blacks outside of media.

 

[Raistlin]

Yeah the girls are cute, but....they don't shave.

Even better!!!!!

*planeflying.jpg*








BTW - what's up with your name? What's your Chicago/Buffalo connection?

 

[BocoDragon]

Even better!!!!!

I kinda... like that too... :lol

I have a question, why do asians of older generations hate black people?

It's not just the older generations if you go back to their home countries...

I'll just say it: Koreans in their home country dislike black people. It's plain as day racism.. Not veiled at all. They'll actually just say it. "I don't like black people".

I don't know how it started, but it was probably a lack of contact with blacks until recently, when they got nothing but bad stereotypes through US media. If someone has a better explanation I'm all ears.

No one ever really says this: But I believe the LA riots were actually started by Korean storeowners distrusting their black customers and assuming they were all shoplifters and criminals? I always heard about it as a black rebellion against the greater white culture... but I think the catalyst was actually Korean immigrants, and knowing their attitudes I wouldn't be surprised.

EDIT: Nevermind... according to wiki the riots were sparked by Rodney King of course... I forgot... nonetheless there was Korean-black tension involved.

In addition to the immediate trigger of the Rodney King verdicts, a range of other factors were cited as reasons for the unrest. Specific anger over the sentence given to a Korean American shop-owner for the shooting and killing of Latasha Harlins, an African American girl, was pointed to as a potential reason for the riots, particularly for the African-American/Korean-American tensions witnessed during the disturbances. Publications such as Newsweek and Time suggested that the source of these racial antagonisms was derived from cultural differences, and from perceptions amongst blacks that Korean-American merchants were taking money out of their community and refusing to hire blacks to work in their shops. According to this view, these tensions were intensified when the Korean-American shop owner, Soon Ja Du, was sentenced to five years probation for the killing of Harlins.[34][35]

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

BTW - what's up with your name? What's your Chicago/Buffalo connection?

I live in Chicago.

I am an alum and former athlete/coach of the University of Colorado.

 

[Always-honest]

What is it with Asian supremacy?

dunno.. they thinking they're white?

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I have a question, why do asians of older generations hate black people? I was talking to some of my asian friends and they're always talking about their parents talking about black people and how their parents are like "You can date anyone but blacks and hispanics" and it always surprised me. Of course, they always have a preference for asians, especially those of the same ethnicity, but they seemed to think poorly of blacks. Why is this?

Not to say, this is the case for all of them. I have a Korean friend whose parents love my brother and I

The only interaction many older Asians have had growing up with African-Americans are soldiers. And 18 year olds, of any background, are never really good cultural ambassadors. Especially when for the most part, they interact with the local population to get drunk/laid.

Why weren't white people affected as much? Well, back in the day, there weren't many minorities in leadership positions.

 

[Blackace]

No one ever really says this: But I believe the LA riots were actually started by Korean storeowners distrusting their black customers and assuming they were all shoplifters and criminals? I always heard about it as a black rebellion against the greater white culture... but I think the catalyst was actually Korean immigrants, and knowing their attitudes I wouldn't be surprised.

I thought it had something to do with a lot of police beating the crap out of a man caught on camera...

However, Koreans moving into poorer black areas opening stores and mistrusting/mistreating (to a degree) their customers who happned to be black is one reason who so many of their stores were targeted during the riots.

 

[BocoDragon]

I thought it had something to do with a lot of police beating the crap out of a man caught on camera....

Yes, yes... as soon as I googled it and saw the name Rodney King I knew I was a bit incorrect!

However, Koreans moving into poorer black areas opening stores and mistrusting/mistreating (to a degree) their customers who happned to be black is one reason who so many of their stores were targeted during the riots.

Right.

 

[Black-Wind]

If these people were born in Japan they'd be lucky, because they draw in the only style which would get them jobs over there..

The funny thing is even if they moved here they'd have to be very talented to find a job here in that field..

Yep, I may not be a expert in JPN culture but I know its pretty damn unlikely that they would hire a artist from the US who does shit that they could get from one of "their" people. Hell, I don't even know if "very talented" would trump the whole "not native" thing.

And even if they got a job over there . . . as a animator they would be paid jack shit and have to work jack crazy hours.

 

[Medalion]

dunno.. they thinking they're white?

Supremacy is a white thing only, gotcha.

 

[racerx]

We have better food.

I personally think western culture has produced better tasting foods. It's sweeter and fatter.

All those spicyness and saltiness just doesn't taste that good. What would you rather have? miso soup or cream of broccoli? Sushi or hamburgers? red bean icicle or ice cream?
tofu pudding or yogurt?

Throughout my entire childhood, my sister and I would would shove away korean dishes and always ask for "American food".