What is it with people thinking Asian is better?

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LiveFromKyoto said:
Okay, that explains everything. I've never met a Vietnamese person whose mother or grandmother didn't make the best pho ever :lol

Well, my mom's had like person in our circle of friends (and that's a big circle) praise her cooking and some folks have actually asked her to start a restaurant. So I'm certain her Pho is awesome. I haven't had a Pho restaurant that comes even close and I've had a lot of Pho restaurants. Seattle is littered with them nowadays.

Tokyo has good food but when it comes to food from countries that don't have giant followings, it's not as good. Thai and Vietnamese restaurants in Tokyo I've found to be mostly terrible. I did find one Thai place that's basically home-style and that's nice for a quaint meal.
 
Shouta said:
It's awesome. Do you know what it is?
Wiki says beef noodle soup.

I love noodle soup so I'd try it if I could!
 
Halycon said:
Wiki says beef noodle soup.

I love noodle soup so I'd try it if I could!

That's the gist of it but good Pho literally draws out all the flavor in the beef bones you use and adds extra wonderful flavor with spices. Then good quality noodles and great cuts of beef on top of that. Just typing that sentence has my mouth watering.
 
Halycon said:
Wiki says beef noodle soup.

I love noodle soup so I'd try it if I could!

You haven't had pho before? You need to eat one pronto.

Courtesy of the last thread GAF had on Viet food

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Well, I know a decent Vietnamese place in Manhattan...

Guess I know where I'm having dinner tomorrow!
(Second pic is *droooooooooooooooooool*)
 
AFreak said:
Pho is pretty much ramen but with different styled noddles and different preparation right?

Nah, very different taste and all. For one thing, Ramen works with either a chicken bone or pork bone base for their soup. They then add flavoring on top of it using different ingredients like Soy sauce or miso, and then various ingredients.

Properly done Pho is entirely beef bone broth with spices and a few things here and there. Nothing added in addition. Can do it with Chicken too but Beef is the best.

Noodles are totally different, Pho uses rice noodles where Ramen uses wheat flour as a base. Toppings are also different. Ramen has a huge variety of odd-ended things. Pho is typically a lot of types of onions, herbs, and tons of different cuts of beef.
 
Shouta said:
Nah, very different taste and all. For one thing, Ramen works with either a chicken bone or pork bone base for their soup. They then add flavoring on top of it using different ingredients like Soy sauce or miso, and then various ingredients.

Properly done Pho is entirely beef bone broth with spices and a few things here and there. Nothing added in addition. Can do it with Chicken too but Beef is the best.

Noodles are totally different, Pho uses rice noodles where Ramen uses wheat flour as a base. Toppings are also different. Ramen has a huge variety of odd-ended things. Pho is typically a lot of types of onions, herbs, and tons of different cuts of beef.


I've had it before, and I knew about the rice noodles, but having both in front of you, they look very similar. thanks for clearing up the rest though.
 
Halycon said:
Well, I know a decent Vietnamese place in Manhattan...

Guess I know where I'm having dinner tomorrow!
(Second pic is *droooooooooooooooooool*)

Whoops, my mistake. The 2nd picture is actually Bunh Bo Hue. It's a little different from pho but not much.
 
Dude, now I'm craving for some Pho. Thanks guys. Can't sleep, maybe some pho will do the trick. That first picture...... I'll add the bean sprouts, onions, a few peppers, squeeze a lemon or two, hoisin sauce and the hot sauce. Also add mint leaves if they are any. I'm all set! :D
 
Do you seriously eat that with chopsticks? It kinda looks like some sort of crazy beef stew-thing.

I've never had like, any Asian food, aside from the basics. I don't even know where to begin!
 
EvaPlusMinus said:
Do you seriously eat that with chopsticks? It kinda looks like some sort of crazy beef stew-thing.

I've never had like, any Asian food, aside from the basics. I don't even know where to begin!
Most people eat it with chopsticks with their right hand and spoon with their left. Left for broth and right for noodles, and everything else! You should try some pho. You're missing out.
 
EvaPlusMinus said:
Do you seriously eat that with chopsticks? It kinda looks like some sort of crazy beef stew-thing.

I've never had like, any Asian food, aside from the basics. I don't even know where to begin!
Eat the beef and noodles with chopsticks then grab that bowl with both hands and tip it over your face!
 
I bet I am. That stuff looks awesome. I don't know of any good places to try any form of that in Austin ;_;


I should cook it myself...



Edit: Guys, I found one bag of some cheap-o ramen shit. Someone tell me how to make this not bad!
 
This thread has been pretty enlightening :lol .

Halycon said:
Well, I know a decent Vietnamese place in Manhattan...

Guess I know where I'm having dinner tomorrow!
(Second pic is *droooooooooooooooooool*)
I want!
take me!
 
Wrath2X said:
I'm Arab and I don't understand my own races hard boner for its own culture, even if I'm well versed in it.


I've been meaning to mention this, but I really dig your tag with that avatar. It just feels so right.
 
Because Japan gives us some awesome stuff...except for their porn. God I'll never understand the sound Japanese girls make in porn...just...wtf. Do the men feel good that they're making them cry as if they were being raped? I'd feel so bad if I was fucking a girl while she was crying like that. I'm afraid I'd date a Japanese girl and she'd be crying in bed (not that I would get that chance...there are like no Japanese girls in Canada, at least not in Ottawa).
 
TheExodu5 said:
Because Japan gives us some awesome stuff...except for their porn. God I'll never understand the sound Japanese girls make in porn...just...wtf. Do the men feel good that they're making them cry as if they were being raped? I'd feel so bad if I was fucking a girl while she was crying like that. I'm afraid I'd date a Japanese girl and she'd be crying in bed (not that I would get that chance...there are like no Japanese girls in Canada).

Then download some Jap porn with the girls in charge :D
 
Shouta said:
Well, my mom's had like person in our circle of friends (and that's a big circle) praise her cooking and some folks have actually asked her to start a restaurant. So I'm certain her Pho is awesome. I haven't had a Pho restaurant that comes even close and I've had a lot of Pho restaurants. Seattle is littered with them nowadays.

Oh I don't doubt that it's awesome, it's just a phenomenon I've noticed.

rykomatsu said:
what
the
fuck
:lol

There's a chain called Ikkyu-San that does it, it's heavenly. I've given up pork but it's one of the first things I'm going to have when I go back.
 
TheExodu5 said:
Yeah but then they're probably doing weird shit like putting those little vibrating rice balls in the guy's asshole or something.

Chances are that scary stuff might indeed happen :lol

There are some out there without scary tools and ass-penetrating 'goodness'
 
LiveFromKyoto said:
Oh I don't doubt that it's awesome, it's just a phenomenon I've noticed.

It's certainly understandable though. The Vietnamese mothers and grandmothers take a lot more time properly preparing Pho where restaurants are catering to large numbers. It's a problem with any type of home-cooking taken to the restaurant setting but Pho suffers a lot more because at least in America, it's become a kind of fast-food dish. Ramen has some of the same problems but isn't nearly as bad due to the preparation style and ingredients.
 
Blackace said:
Actually Japanese women don't get it very often, at all. And almost none get it done as young as Korean women....

I beg to differ Blackace

http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/cosmetic-surgery-for-children-becoming-commonplace

I'll admit they may not get it done 'as much as' Korean women, but Japanese women 'definitely' get it done.

I wish I could find a better article than that, but a lot of Japanese women go to Korea to get whatever done as it's much cheaper there.

Critical Jeff - I found white people the clique-iest people when I was in school. Works both ways too, y'know. I was also ganged up on and beat up 'because' I was the only Asian kid in that school at the time.

jamesinclair - that depends...are we talking banana girls or straight up girls from East Asia? I never had problems socializing with girls from East Asia. Hell, when I was there, it was hard not to. Here in NA though...different story. As for dismissiveness...you mean more than NA girls? I'd say yes, though I've run into enough mouthy bitches in East Asia to say that's just a generalization. Late 20's Korean women (and Japanese to some extent) are fairly aggressive in pursuing men. Korean women, once married and are termed 'ajumma' :lol are EXTREMELY aggressive in getting what they want. I was pushed out of the way when I got off a bus once. Another story of an older woman pushing and attacking people on a street corner for money. They couldn't really do anything as they're taught to respect elders.

pubba - ermmm...actually, can you clarify 'developed'? If you're referring to breast size, I didn't see a lot of huge breasted girls when I was in Japan. None of the Japanese girls I met were particularly noteworthy either. Southeast Asian and Pacific Islanders are a different story.

pel - to clarify, there certainly 'is' an ideal for pale skin. However, there are enough Koreans who don't abide by it and I met a whole ton who didn't have tanned nor had overly milky white skin either (who were still hot as hell). Thank god they're reasonable and don't go the ugly ganguro route like the Japanese. I did not, however, meet any girls who went out of their way to get a tan though, which is fine by me.
 
homerule said:
After living in South Korea for a few months, I don't know if I can agree with this. Certainly Korean women are gorgeous in their 20's, 30's and even 40's. But at some point, it varies per woman, they just hit an incredible wall and devolve into stocky, tough creatures that go bald and perm anything left over. I'm sure that if you looked at photos of these old women when they were younger, they used to be stunning. My shallowness tells me I can't spend the rest of my life with a woman who will eventually look like a lost member of the California Raisins.

How do other Asian women hold up in their later years? I'm always thinking long-term!

Hah! Are you sure those women were in their 40s, then? You'd be very surprised at how the girls who look 'in their 20s and 30s' are actually in their '30s and 40s'. Granted, once you hit mid to late 40s, it's difficult for any race to look fantastic without a lot of extra help. Hell, my mom is mid 50s and could still pass for mid 40s. My mother in law is also the same.

Stocky, tough creatures that go bald and perm anything left over? Is this really differently across all races? I could say the same thing for Italian women. Breathtakingly beautiful...but then turn into those doddy old Italian grandmas very suddenly.

My point was just to counter the assertion that Asians age poorly.
 
re: surgery, i was going to say "really, it's nowhere near on the level of korea", but then i remembered that my girlfriend is japanese and had her eyes done so hell if i know. i'm pretty sure most girls wouldn't consider it, though, whereas it's a different story in korea.
 
homerule said:
After living in South Korea for a few months, I don't know if I can agree with this. Certainly Korean women are gorgeous in their 20's, 30's and even 40's. But at some point, it varies per woman, they just hit an incredible wall and devolve into stocky, tough creatures that go bald and perm anything left over. I'm sure that if you looked at photos of these old women when they were younger, they used to be stunning. My shallowness tells me I can't spend the rest of my life with a woman who will eventually look like a lost member of the California Raisins.

How do other Asian women hold up in their later years? I'm always thinking long-term!

wait..we actually give a f how well a woman holds up in her 50s?

jesus, who cares as long as they hold up well until their 40s.
 
pel1300 said:
In the Philippines you have the most naturally dark skinned girls doing their make up to try to look pale skinned.

They end up looking like extras in a low budget zombie movie from the 70s.


I never saw this and i've been to the Philippines multiple times. Even in the capitol city of Manila where i'd assume you would see it most...uh no. They just want out of their country and marry any guy other than another Filipino.
 
LiveFromKyoto said:
It's not that she isn't beautiful, she's gorgeous. It's just that there are hundreds of those girls who come and go every month and she's kind of b or c-level in her field.

You'll have to show me some a-levels then. :D
 
elitehebrew said:
I never saw this and i've been to the Philippines multiple times. Even in the capitol city of Manila where i'd assume you would see it most...uh no. They just want out of their country and marry any guy other than another Filipino.

Well I did go to Manila and I did see this.

Not to say I saw so many girls like this, just some.
 
AbortedWalrusFetus said:
It just seems weird that if someone likes asian culture, they get ostracized for it, but it's not the case for a love of western cultures. I know a guy who is obsessed with Sweden, but a lot of people consider that normal, but if you're obsessed with Korea/Japan/China or whatever you're just a nerd.

I remember reading a comment a while back on some of the PUA blogs I occasionally find myself on that there are quite a number of white women who absolutely hate the fact more and more white men are dating asian girls instead of them, (hell, I remember dating a girl and she got noticeably disgusted when I mentioned there were a number of asian girls I found attractive) perhaps this is where the ostracization started?

You know, I was never really into American pop culture growing up, coincidentally (or not), many of my interests can be traced to either Europe or Japan (even in 7th grade, doing bonsai as a hobby... didn't really put 2 and 2 together with that and playing all those video games). If that makes me a weeaboo, so be it, I'm past the age where I stopped caring about labels.

Neo C. said:
Wat.

Everybody loves Phở, you can't be serious.

Very serious. Didn't like the taste at all. Didn't help matters that the restaurant I went to was disgustingly filthy as well.
 
According to some recent survey I read not too long ago (sorry I'm at work now posting from my iPhone so I can't link to the source at the moment) but per capita, japan and even taiwan and hong kong ranked higher in plastic surgeries compared to s Korea. And as a side note, a few European countries and USA ranked above s Korea. So yea..
 
Ken K in the Fresh!!! said:
According to some recent survey I read not too long ago (sorry I'm at work now posting from my iPhone so I can't link to the source at the moment) but per capita, japan and even taiwan and hong kong ranked higher in plastic surgeries compared to s Korea. And as a side note, a few European countries and USA ranked above s Korea. So yea..
According to this article, South Korea has the highest rate of cosmetic surgery in the world:
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200509/200509260014.html
 
numble said:
According to this article, South Korea has the highest rate of cosmetic surgery in the world:
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200509/200509260014.html

Most of the SK's get plastic surgery on their eyes in order to look more caucasian. Also, Japanophiles and Asian culture nerds are creepy in general. It's okay to like something but when you adopt an entire culture in an obsessive fashion, it's just kind of pathetic.
 
elitehebrew said:
I never saw this and i've been to the Philippines multiple times. Even in the capitol city of Manila where i'd assume you would see it most...uh no. They just want out of their country and marry any guy other than another Filipino.

The easiest way to prove Filipino's obsession with lighter skin is to look at the celebrities and those variety shows like Wowowee. Pretty much all the dancers and the female hosts are lighter skinned.
 
Shouta said:
I did find one Thai place that's basically home-style and that's nice for a quaint meal.

Name/Location?

Good Thai in Japan is slim pickins...

I'm surprised nobody mentioned how hot Taiwanese women are! I swear I saw the most beautiful person ever in my whole life at the train station in southern Taiwan.
 
JzeroT1437 said:
Most of the SK's get plastic surgery on their eyes in order to look more caucasian. Also, Japanophiles and Asian culture nerds are creepy in general. It's okay to like something but when you adopt an entire culture in an obsessive fashion, it's just kind of pathetic.

Just curious, do you look at all the immigrants who come to America and other western countries, leaving their old culture behind to immerse themselves in a new one as creepy and pathetic as well?

I mean, I know exactly what you mean about the western otaku types who play act their lives like some kind of Asian caricature. But really, those people are weird because they're weird, not because of anything inherently wrong with what they're into.
 
Women "know their place" in asia ;) Husband is the provider of the family and wife stays home with the kids. Dinner ready to be served when man comes home after hard day @ work.

... Not saying all asian women are housewifes but it is somewhat common in many parts of asia.
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
The easiest way to prove Filipino's obsession with lighter skin is to look at the celebrities and those variety shows like Wowowee. Pretty much all the dancers and the female hosts are lighter skinned.
Damn, just reading 'Wowowee' has me wanting to watch it right now... I miss seeing "Mr.s Congratulations!" She has a bangin' body, her legs.....? Oh my god at those thighs:D. But I also enjoy watching the show too.
homerule said:
What he said. I agree, a lot of South Korean women do not age well, imo. I wasn't in Seoul too much, so maybe I was seeing the 40 year old women that had been doing heavy labor or whatever for their whole life, but I saw a ton of haggard-looking women. A TON.
Kuro Madoushi said:
None of the Japanese girls I met were particularly noteworthy either. Southeast Asian and Pacific Islanders are a different story.
This applies to most of the things in this thread, or any other thread where 'Asian' gets mentioned, especially in relation to the Asian women. So many people forget there are other countries besides Japan, China, and Korea.
 
JzeroT1437 said:
Most of the SK's get plastic surgery on their eyes in order to look more caucasian.

Incorrect. Such a common misconception. As if asians don't have natural double eyelids? :lol
 
Terrell said:
But don't try to date an Asian male. Asian men make dating WAY too frustrating and unbearable. Why do you guys think that so many Asian women want to date a white guy? If you've looked at what their own culture offers them, it's the lesser of 2 evils for them.

the number of asian girls i know who either outright do not find asian girls attractive or refuse to date another seriously shocks me. I mean as a black guy i hear some black guys claim to prefer women of other races but never shit like i will not date a black woman or that kind shit. Fuck, i kinda know why some asian guys are pissed.

harSon said:
I see a lot of Black/Asian couples (mostly Black male/Asian female) in San Jose. My friends are into B-Boying (breakdancing) and I've come across a shit ton of asian/black couples at the competitions.

Man i have a circle of friends where i swear it seems like they are passing the asian girls between each other although they claim otherwise. I swear every asian girl in that collection of friends has fucked at least 2 black guys and i am there hoping to get my piece of asian action some day:lol :lol. I am not the only person seeing this but i see so many black and asian couples in London, back when i was proper into asian chicks i thought it was a sign that a higher power was mocking me because i saw at least a couple everyw eek and i was like how come ain't getting anywhere. Then i dated a few and fucked myself over a few times and i am like you know what i only have myself to blame.
 
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