what is the secret to not getting permanently banned from NeoGAF.com?
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Wow so glad I wasnt on gaf then. Sounds horrible.
Edit. Sorry double post, fucking mobile. Pls don't ban me.
TemplaerDude
Member
I've been ban hammered about 3 or 4 times, I think, and they were usually all because I would start bad mouthing a game in the OT. So don't do that.
Oh man, to add to the awesomeness of Dragona, the best thread ever was this one about a security camera video showing this person trying to park their SUV and accidentally running over like 5 other cars in the process and then deciding to leave.
I swear like 80% of the people who posted in it made a joke about it being a woman driver. I got off the internet and came back like 2 hours later to that thread and everyone was banned lol.
It was the funniest thing ever.
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
I remember that thread, lol.
James Woods
Banned
It isn't hard to be polite.
GamerVoice
Banned
How can anybody find that offensive. Even a woman finding that offensive is baffling to me.
It's implying that women are inherently bad at driving, and it's a stupid joke at that.
I so would of been banned haha, I wonder if she still lurks here. Probably rages that she cannot ban everyone.
Edit: Women drivers are better then men drivers, hands down.
GamerVoice
Banned
Yeah, it's a joke. How can you get offended at a joke. Like, seriously.
Dig up a few threads from a few years ago about Transsexuals or Women. A lot of that wouldn't have been banned then, but banned now. While she did take it too far and become very black or white, its not entirely like a lot of what she did was unmerited either. Threads that had the large bannings were ones like the Epic Mickey, where the port whining got to obscene levels. Or it was just another shit on women or transsexual jokes.
James Woods
Banned
Goddamn Riggs edit that post about what you think about those jokes. You might get banned, bro.
Edit again: My mom would be disappointed in me right now.
I have no balls left anymore, damn it gaf ...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Whoa, makes me glad I joined circa 2009
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I was only banned once
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
On a related note, seems like tipping and circumcision brings the worst in GAF along with system wars.
Then again, some of them didn't come off as surprising.
Then again, some of them didn't come off as surprising.
You can argue both of those without being an asshole.
Observe:
Person 1. I'm against circumcision because I think it's wrong to do that to a child.
Person 2. HITLER WAS AGAINST IT TOO.
or
Person 1: I'm for tipping because I think they need the extra cash.
Person 2: HITLER TIPPED TOO.
There's some degree of dignity here.
blame space
Banned
HITLER THOUGHT YOU COULD ARGUE BOTH OF THOSE WITHOUT BEING AN ASSHOLE TOO
Well, I know when I'm beaten.
blame space
Banned
haha i am person 2 get it?
I really do think that the difficulty of arguing in controversial threads without getting modded is overstated. Are you being polite and reasonable? You'll probably be fine.
I was being extremely hyperbolic, but yes, that was my point. I participate in the controversial debates and have never been banned (and others haven't either). You just need to know the limits of what you can see without it crossing the rules line. Oh, and you never engage the people who WILL pull you down with them. The Hitler was against circumcision line? I'm not making that up, there's a dude who uses a variant on that for his stance. It's insane and he's not worth engaging with that kind of psychosis.
Yup. The truth.
I (apparently) push hard on touchy issues but I know well enough not to get carried away and be offensive about it. I don't see myself being banned because I've trained myself to do that in real life arguments and my personality on GAF is a pretty honest reflection of my real self.
I have seen where a user have had "wrong" opinion and was banned while he/she was very reasonable... while the opinion was somewhat strange.
Oh, I was agreeing. They really should not be considered difficult to navigate.
When you see that happen the two most likely scenarios that have occurred are either they broke a rule you were unaware of (and therefore didn't think it was notable when they made the offending post) or, more likely, they were banned for a post in an entirely different topic, and you are simply mistaken in thinking that their ban had anything to do with the thread you were looking at when they were banned.
That might be the case, but the general feeling is that such users are easier to get banned then regular Joes.
In the last case I seen this was where a guy created a thread and defending Syria goverment and blaming all violence on the "insurgens" which where the rebels.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It's usually the response from others, usually trolls, that can really make you feel annoyed and/or angry. The trick is to scroll past them though, especially if it's a recurring poster with no sense of importance.
Like say if I see that poster with a Paul Newman avatar, I'd skip his posts.
Like say if I see that poster with a Paul Newman avatar, I'd skip his posts.
I hadn't been banned for years (except voluntarily) until the last few weeks when I was banned twice. The first time was for a "nude" that doesn't count as nudity (was featured all over the news and in newspapers) and the second time was because the mod was confused (I was imitating an insulting post to draw attention to it and then called someone "Penis" because that's the guy's nickname).
Not perma, but it gets sketchy when you're banned multiple times in a row like that.
There really is an element of 'wrong place, wrong time'. Just too much stuff to moderate sometimes, I guess. I never mind it since it's nice to get rid of this distraction for a bit.
Not perma, but it gets sketchy when you're banned multiple times in a row like that.
There really is an element of 'wrong place, wrong time'. Just too much stuff to moderate sometimes, I guess. I never mind it since it's nice to get rid of this distraction for a bit.
Devolution
Member
2 drink minimum.
This is true, I've been wrecking shop in all both tip style threads and I'm still here.
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
Be a popular guest on people's ignore lists.
insult to injury: I'm not offensive and stupid enough to be on people's ignore list. :'(
further insult: also not civil and smart enough to be on people's buddy lists either (do we still have those?)
So basically: average user.
insult to injury: I'm not offensive and stupid enough to be on people's ignore list. :'(
further insult: also not civil and smart enough to be on people's buddy lists either (do we still have those?)
So basically: average user.
fifasnipe2224
Member
Never post.
EDIT: I might get banned now for posting.
EDIT: I might get banned now for posting.
I rarely feel the urge to call someone a fucking moron on here, thankfully.
That's more to do with the generally well-minded community than anything else, but I guess my apathy or difficulty to actually get offended by something/someone plays a part as well.
Basically though (as far as OT goes), you can get banned for one of three reasons:
1. Be an ass hole in response to someone else's post.
2. Just being an ass hole in response to no one in particular.
and 3. Do something stupid (but not necessarily ass wholish).
That's the way I see it, anyway.
That's more to do with the generally well-minded community than anything else, but I guess my apathy or difficulty to actually get offended by something/someone plays a part as well.
Basically though (as far as OT goes), you can get banned for one of three reasons:
1. Be an ass hole in response to someone else's post.
2. Just being an ass hole in response to no one in particular.
and 3. Do something stupid (but not necessarily ass wholish).
That's the way I see it, anyway.
I used it on somebody whose name kept ruining the format of the page because it was too long. Can't remember who that was, but it saved me from insanity.
I have one more interesting case from the archives for the mods
do you guys remember that one time (quite a while ago) where a guy opened a thread about self-mutilation, at first he'd post pics of his chest cut with a knife and then would also encourage people to show their self-inflicted "injuries"?
of course the guy was banned, thread closed and no further comment was done, everyone who saw it was terrfied. I know it may seem self explanatory but upon reflecting on that matter, what exactly would be the TOS rule that he breached? or was it something so discusting that there was no need to go into a moral debate there?
do you guys remember that one time (quite a while ago) where a guy opened a thread about self-mutilation, at first he'd post pics of his chest cut with a knife and then would also encourage people to show their self-inflicted "injuries"?
of course the guy was banned, thread closed and no further comment was done, everyone who saw it was terrfied. I know it may seem self explanatory but upon reflecting on that matter, what exactly would be the TOS rule that he breached? or was it something so discusting that there was no need to go into a moral debate there?
fuzzyreactor
Banned
1. Avoid all controversial topics on race, gender, sexuality and politics. Especially so if your opinion differs from the hive.
2. Never create a topic and lie about something. You will be found out.
3. Don't post meme's
been banned several times. my fav was when i got banned in a topic about racism towards black people and i was banned because "dont post about race issues if you dont understand them"
.....im black
2. Never create a topic and lie about something. You will be found out.
3. Don't post meme's
been banned several times. my fav was when i got banned in a topic about racism towards black people and i was banned because "dont post about race issues if you dont understand them"
.....im black
I bet some 70% of bans aren't even breaking the TOS. GAF has plenty of unwritten rules, and the only way to really know about them is to stick around long enough to see someone banned by it. Like the c word.
NullPointer
Member
I've been banned once, for getting caught up in a back-and-forth that derailed a thread and for getting too personal. Fully justified imho.
It can be hard to do, but treating other posters as if they were actual flesh and bone people sharing the same space with you helps.
It can be hard to do, but treating other posters as if they were actual flesh and bone people sharing the same space with you helps.
James Woods
Banned
Does anyone else make a mental note of which juniors aren't going to make it? I do this everytime there is an influx of new members. It is always obvious.
A. Language
You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use NeoGAF to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law. Sexual, racial, or ethnic slurs will not be tolerated in any form and are bannable on the first offense. It is recommended that profanity be held to a minimum, as it does not promote civil conversation. Foul language in the form of insults directed towards other forum members may result in a ban.
You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use NeoGAF to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law. Sexual, racial, or ethnic slurs will not be tolerated in any form and are bannable on the first offense. It is recommended that profanity be held to a minimum, as it does not promote civil conversation. Foul language in the form of insults directed towards other forum members may result in a ban.
While not every possible thing one could be banned for is specifically delineated under the ToS - and how could they be? - if you read the ToS / FAQs, you should be able to find the reason why someone was banned, provided you are looking at the topic that caused it, and you should certainly be able to see why you were banned. Those sorts of informal rules you talk about are not so much unwritten as they are more specific rules that follow from the guidelines the ToS provides.
And it is important to remember that the reason someone gives you for their own ban is not necessarily the actual reason they were banned. Some people prefer to believe that their ban was for a petty or specious reason when it actually was the consequence of them having broken a long-established rule. I have seen more than a few people since I have become a mod claim to have had an unfair ban in the past, only to discover when I look it up that they were mistaken about what happened and why they were banned. If you take every story at face value, however, it is easy to believe that there are more unfair moderations than actually occur.
blame space
Banned
one time i got banned for this post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=33576515#post33576515
that wasn't my post, though. my post quoted and was responding to Blackace's just above mine. i said, "what, you're telling me you're the only one here who doesn't speak Chinese?" which got me banned for like two months. it said "troll harder" and then my post was edited. i don't get what part of that was trolling or offensive or whatever, i was just playing off of the "haha no one can read it" post. thought it was pretty obvious sarcasm since this is mostly an english speaking forum.
no hard feelings or anything, i just noticed people posting ban stories and i thought i'd share mine. like a PSA. you can be banned for pretty much anything and have it covered up just because someone was having a bad day or took something way too seriously.
that wasn't my post, though. my post quoted and was responding to Blackace's just above mine. i said, "what, you're telling me you're the only one here who doesn't speak Chinese?" which got me banned for like two months. it said "troll harder" and then my post was edited. i don't get what part of that was trolling or offensive or whatever, i was just playing off of the "haha no one can read it" post. thought it was pretty obvious sarcasm since this is mostly an english speaking forum.
no hard feelings or anything, i just noticed people posting ban stories and i thought i'd share mine. like a PSA. you can be banned for pretty much anything and have it covered up just because someone was having a bad day or took something way too seriously.
SniperHunter
Banned
damn this is a huge thread, looks like I have to read the entire thing.
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