What is up with Europe's low age of consent for sex?

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Gromph said:
The legal age of consent for sex in Tokyo and Nagano is 13.
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Ms.Galaxy said:
I think the age got lowered to 16 in New Mexico, at least that's what two homeland security investigators told me and my boyfriend when they talked to us after my boyfriend's parents called them saying I was "a pedophile and a threat to their son". (Boyfriend was 17, I was 21, we both consented to our relationship and we both understood the laws regarding sex).

And before others might do the same, I did my best to make sure our relationship abide to the laws of New Mexico because I genuinely love him and can wait. He was only 16 when we started dating.
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Sound like lovely parents :/
 
I wish there was just one age of majority for all things. Vote, tried as an adult, marriage, rent a car, elected to office, consensual sex, alcohol, tobacco. Just roll it into one.
 
Freaking California / Hollywood confusing what the actual age of consent is.

Also, don't fuck high school girls. It's a pretty simple rule to follow regardless of legality.
 
well most western countries dont have the sexual hang-ups that the US does, and also, since majority of western countries have it at 16, shouldnt the question be why is it so high in America?
 
Avixph said:
It's not 18 in all the states.

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Does that mean I, a 30-something adult, can have relations with a 16 year old in any of the green states on that map? (Not that I'd want to for various reasons)

I remember when I was in high school one of my friends fucked a guy who was in his 40s when she was 17 and eventually got him arrested for it. This was in Ohio, for what it's worth.
 
Buddha Beam said:
Does that mean I, a 30-something adult, can have relations with a 16 year old in any of the green states on that map? (Not that I'd want to for various reasons)

I remember when I was in high school one of my friends fucked a guy who was in his 40s when she was 17 and eventually got him arrested for it. This was in Ohio, for what it's worth.
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No. There has to be a minium age gap.
 
Doesn't it make more sense to set the age of consent too high rather than too low?

No one age will be right for every person but setting it higher on a law that is largely only used to increase penalties to persons doing something vile or having charges placed against them in the first place makes sense.

I feel the same way about drug laws. If you have to set the bar somewhere, set it too strict and hope it keeps most people further away from any real danger.
 
Sub-Zero at a Starbucks said:
I know in Florida at least there's a "get out of jailbait free" provision where minors 16 and 17 can have sex with people up to age 24 legally, and then everything's fair game starting at 18.

I think it makes a little more sense than allowing for ludicrous age gaps, honestly. The argument that "sure, an age gap of 7-8 years might seem weird when one person is in high school and the other's an adult but it's totally normal as soon as they're both adults" seems like a really fallible way of trying to justify going after people way under your age range.
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I'm not really a fan of this reasoning. Can you explain how a 50 year old having sex with a 16 year old is more harmful than a 24 year old having sex with a 16 year old? The only reasoning I can see is "gross", which really shouldn't be the basis for laws.

I am in favor of "romeo and juliet" laws, which can be applied either when one half of a couple goes over the age of consent or when both are minors (there should definitely be room for leniency in these cases). I'm not in favor of treating adults differently based on their age though. If a 50 year old shouldn't be having sex with a 16 year old, then a 24 year old shouldn't be either.
 
Buddha Beam said:
Does that mean I, a 30-something adult, can have relations with a 16 year old in any of the green states on that map? (Not that I'd want to for various reasons)

I remember when I was in high school one of my friends fucked a guy who was in his 40s when she was 17 and eventually got him arrested for it. This was in Ohio, for what it's worth.
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For what?
 
Kettch said:
I'm not really a fan of this reasoning. Can you explain how a 50 year old having sex with a 16 year old is more harmful than a 24 year old having sex with a 16 year old? The only reasoning I can see is "gross", which really shouldn't be the basis for laws.

I am in favor of "romeo and juliet" laws, which can be applied either when one half of a couple goes over the age of consent or when both are minors (there should definitely be room for leniency in these cases). I'm not in favor of treating adults differently based on their age though. If a 50 year old shouldn't be having sex with a 16 year old, then a 24 year old shouldn't be either.
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Well in the real world these kinds of situations really only arise when someone has a problem and files charges.

If it really was consentual and whatever nothing would really come of it. I mean, it could happen. Its just not very likely to. And the younger person would probably be better off spending their time around people their own age in both cases.
 
Kinyou said:
Sound like lovely parents :/
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Don't get me started on the part where they disconnected the internet, took his phone, tried to scare him to break up with me, and try to make him feel like he's destroying his family and his life because he's with me.

Joke's on them, he and I are even closer than ever and I bought him a new phone and pay for its services. We plan to move together once he finishes up high school this May. He and his parents do not get along anymore as you might expect.
 
Buddha Beam said:
Does that mean I, a 30-something adult, can have relations with a 16 year old in any of the green states on that map? (Not that I'd want to for various reasons)
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No. Even in countries with low AoC. It's usually leeway for local governments to have power over these issues and avoids the issue of say, 16-20 relationships.
 
jadedm17 said:
How does this work if someone lives in a place where it's 18 but the act is done in a place where it's 16? You know, just out of curiosity of course.
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I believe interstate travel for the sole purpose of circumventing your state's age of consent laws is illegal but if it isn't, I don't know. And even if it is, I'd think it would be rather difficult to prove.
 
jadedm17 said:
How does this work if someone lives in a place where it's 18 but the act is done in a place where it's 16? You know, just out of curiosity of course.
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I believe there are some rules to it. I believe one of the two has to be a citizen of the state in order for it to be legal. So if X(19) lived and is a citizen of California and Y(16) lived and is a citizen of Massachusetts, X can fly over to Mass and legally have sex with Y if both constants to it.
 
I guess this is kinda off-topic maybe, but why is nudity so much more of a taboo subject in the US than a lot of other countries?
 
mazpratim said:
I guess this is kinda off-topic maybe, but why is nudity so much more of a taboo subject in the US than a lot of other countries?
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If you're told to feel ashamed, and you see others shamed for it. You will have adverse feelings towards. If you're brought up empowered over it, then you feel empowered by it. I'm not entirely sure it is taboo. I think there is a mix of prudes, and people who dislike being pandered to.
 
What's up with the USA being so strict about everything? Religious undertones? Insecurity?

I find that other countries are more relaxed, yet things seem to be working out fine for them.
 
That map is off. Wisconsin' safe of consent is 18. I know it because a buddy of mine got in some big trouble when he was 18 and had sex with a 17 year old girl he met at a party.... And I was paranoid as fuck when I had a 17 year old girlfriend at 18... Just looked it up to make sure and yeah. 18 with no close in age exemptions at all.
 
Askherserenity said:
18 year olds could be just as immature as some 16 year olds and 16 year olds could be just as mature as 18 year olds.
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Absolutely true, but that's not really a good approach to lawmaking. I know twelve-year-olds who have more wisdom and maturity than some twenty-year-olds, for example, but I wouldn't extrapolate that fact into legislation.
 
Different cultural attitudes.

I think the general US age (18) is fine, but I suppose there is a lot of room for reform.
 
kingwingin said:
Can't parents still press charges if their child is above age of consent but under 18 years old?
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In most european law systems there's very few cases when anyone can press charges or not. Most crimes are processucted automatically, without even the consent of the victim. And no, if an age of consent is lower than 18 the parents in most countries can't do anything about it. Why would they? That would be giving them way to much power anyay.

EDIT: did you mean USA or Europe?
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the age of consent should be half your age + 6 or 7 until you get to be 18- at which time maybe you should be allowed to fornicate with 16 year olds. Particularly if you're an older woman having sex with a guy less than 18 years. It's older men taking advantage of younger girls that gives me pause.
 
WetPotatoBread said:
It depends what state you are in:

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This is complete bullshit. Have sex with a 17 year old in one state and it's OK, but do it a few miles further over an artificial borderline and all of a sudden you're a perverted criminal.. ughh.. Should just be 16 all the way.
 
Valhelm said:
Why? Honestly, I don't think it's a good idea for underage people to have sex at all. With another young person doesn't make it better.
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People can have sex when they considere they are prepared to have it. You and the rest of the world are no one to tell anyone what can or can't do.
 
Canada actually raised it from 16 to 18 recently.

I don't really like my permissions being taken away, but you pretty quickly get to a point in your 20s that dating anyone under 18 would be insane anyway.
 
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