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[Latvian Hitman]

One of my best friends trains dogs and I have been in the suit. Its all about controlling your fear, of course I have never truly gone at it with a dog. I have no interest in hurting the dog or taking the damage that you obviously would take. In real life I've never been up against a trained dog, I have had a couple close encounters with stupid people and shitty dogs and once with a Pit that must of got out because it was too healthy to be a stray but in the end the dog backed down.

We're derailing the thread, so I won't continue to go back and forth over this. You can control your fear all day long, if a K-9 trained ~100 lb. Shepherd decides it's in his best interest to put you on the ground, you're going on the ground. Not the same thing as an encounter with a random loose dog in your neighborhood.

 

[DarkKyo]

Dogs aren't pieces of equipment, they are sentient beings

Where exactly did I imply that they aren't sentient? To a police officer, a police dog is indeed an important piece of equipment at their disposal. Doesn't mean they aren't sentient, though.

 

[knicks]

He will pay a fine and nothing else.

That's still ridiculous.

As he should. I don't think 7 years in jail would really fit the bill here.

Really?

 

[23qwerty]

Dogs aren't pieces of equipment, they are sentient beings

Uh no they aren't.

 

[Tesseract]

sentient dogz

 

[bishoptl]

I'd dare them to pursue charges and tell them exactly where to stick their fine.

If you're a handler, do your fucking job. If you're not capable, quit and let somebody else do it.

 

[adamsappel]

You're a professional athlete in a stadium with 50,000 thousand people, and you taunt a highly trained, deadly animal who only knows that his job is to stop people that piss it off and commits crimes.

We're derailing the thread, so I won't continue to go back and forth over this. You can control your fear all day long, if a K-9 trained ~100 lb. Shepherd decides it's in his best interest to put you on the ground, you're going on the ground. Not the same thing as an encounter with a random loose dog in your neighborhood.

Stop thinking of police dogs as precision machines. They don't know what "crimes" are or what their "job" is. They're dogs, and on an intelligence scale, they're as dumb as, well, dogs. They can smell, bark and bite. They are mostly for intimidation and (painful) distraction. They are often misused by their handlers. I don't think they really have any application in crowd control.

 

[darscot]

We're derailing the thread, so I won't continue to go back and forth over this. You can control your fear all day long, if a K-9 trained ~100 lb. Shepherd decides it's in his best interest to put you on the ground, you're going on the ground. Not the same thing as an encounter with a random loose dog in your neighborhood.

Like I said, I've been in the suit and confident if we went to the ground i would be in a position to defined my vital areas and still attack. A dog has one weapon its teeth, I have several, my brain being the most lethal one. After a dog encounter that I was walking with my kids and I just lost my shit I realized I need a little education and went to my buddy to learn the right things to do. Most people don't have the education to deal with a dog attack but some people do. My point was I initially thought the dog was agitated and barking and the guy responded, there is really not enough info to know what happened. If the guy instigated the situation he is a prick and deserves what ever the law dictates. If the police failed to control the animal then the fault is with them.

 

[Dali]

I'd dare them to pursue charges and tell them exactly where to stick their fine.

If you're a handler, do your fucking job. If you're not capable, quit and let somebody else do it.

Cop's dogs, and by their extension, their handlers aren't responsible for their actions.

 

[Princess Carl]

Cop's dogs, and by their extension, their handlers aren't responsible for their actions.

Just like cops' hands, feet, guns, sexual organs, and whatever else may require them to be held accountable for their actions when it's time to be held accountable.

 

[JZA]

And Michael Vick got way less time than that for running a dogfighting ring? Verbal cruelty vs. actual cruelty?

 

[Joco]

Maybe they should stop training dogs to become killers if they can't control them. Just a thought.

 

[FyreWulff]

Bandit was very agitated. He wanted me to let him go. I imagine with his training and experience he would have gone to his target who was taunting him. I don't want to speculate on what he would have done," she said.

Let's play "Who said this: a gang member making threats, or a cop making threats?"

 

[Angry Grimace]

I like how they act like Bandit could take on Ray Ray

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

What a joke.

 

[Odoul]

Should we be reading into the fact that a black man pounding his chest and saying "hey dog" can get a trained police dog ready to kill?

For a long time in some people in America's eyes dogs have more expectations to security and happiness, and a right to exist, than we did,

 

[FoxSpirit]

"Bandit was very agitated. He wanted me to let him go. I imagine with his training and experience he would have gone to his target who was taunting him. I don't want to speculate on what he would have done," she said.

Your dogs are fucking uncontrolled savages. There is zero control, they are simply munching machines.
Seriously, I am more upset about this than someone lightly taunting a K-9 dog.
May dog handlers in the US have zero ability to turn dogs into a working companion instead of an assault weapon. And it IS a nation problem, uncontrolable dogs like that would never pass certification here.

A properly trained dog will not even react to outside provocation.

 

[mr2xxx]

Bark at a dog 7 years, cop orders a dog to maul a restrained individual, nothing happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEe6IECjXh0

 

[TwEE-N-Toast]

Taunting a trained attack animal into a frenzy? Not dangerous or anything. The guys an idiot and should be fined.

 

[Furyous]

This reminds of the time I thought it would be a good idea to walk up to Collie police dog in China and randomly pet him/her. I got a good 5.5 pets in before he/she started growing and I chucked the deuce and got ghost. Hit that Sai Chen (goodbye) with the quickness and skedaddled.

Anywhoo, Raiders need to handle this situation because all the player was trying to do is get himself hyped for the game.

 

[abolisher6812]

With as much travelling as football players do, he should know that you don't mess with service dogs. A fine is perfectly reasonable in this situation.

 

[Neuromancer]

It seems like pretty common sense to me that you shouldn't interfere with, and agitate, a police dog on duty. I'm not surprised there would be laws prohibiting it.

 

[JustenP88]

If the dog is that dangerous keep it away.

It's mind-numbingly stupid that you'd have such an easily agitated, potentially dangerous animal, restrained only by a leash in a loud stadium filled with 60,000+ people.

 

[Byakuya769]

would you walk up to a squad car and taunt a Police Officer?

K-9s are not "just dogs", they are considered as police officers

Should I be fined 15k for taunting a police officer?

Fuck, what have we done to policing in this nation?

 

[DiscoJer]

Honestly, I don't even see why we have police dogs. Siccing a frenzied animal on a suspect seems pretty barbarous and their sniffing ability with regard to detecting drugs and stuff is pretty dubious

 

[JustenP88]

Honestly, I don't even see why we have police dogs. Siccing a frenzied animal on a suspect seems pretty barbarous and their sniffing ability with regard to detecting drugs and stuff is pretty dubious

So they can have something "expendable" to take the bullet.

 

[matt05891]

He not going to get 7 years and it will probably end in a fine but holy shit you guys have a fucking agenda against police. The dog is literally trained to save lives by targeting an aggressor in a situation. They have this at places with people in close proximity because of the world we live in and the accessibility to kill in that proximity as well as deterence because frankly people don't want to fuck with a trained dog. Why are you blaming the fucking dog and not realize that anyone in the right mind shouldn't taunt a police K9 knowing that they're trained to subdue and potentially neutralize a threat. Even fucking kids know this shit. Should he go to jail? No. Should he get fined? Fuck Yes. Imagine if the dog had killed someone because this asshole did this? But it would be 100% the police officers fault and anyone that disagrees would be wrong because our society hates fucking cops. I'm sick of this.

 

[JustenP88]

He not going to get 7 years and it will probably end in a fine but holy shit you guys have a fucking agenda against police. The dog is literally trained to save lives by targeting an aggressor in a situation. They have this at places with people in close proximity because of the world we live in. Why are you blaming the fucking dog and not realize that anyone in the right mind shouldn't taunt a police K9 knowing that they're trained to subdue and potentially neutralize a threat. Even fucking kids know this shit. Should he go to jail? No. Should he get fined? Fuck Yes. Imagine if the dog had killed someone because this asshole did this? But it would be 100% the police officers fault and anyone that disagrees would be wrong because our society hates fucking cops. I'm sick of this.

We have humans (poorly) trained for this shit. Nobody is blaming the dog. Our society doesn't fucking hate cops. Stop with that "war on cops" nonsense. It's delusional.

 

[Beerman462]

Trumped up charges. That sheriffs office is just looking to get paid.

 

[matt05891]

We have humans (poorly) trained for this shit. Nobody is blaming the dog. Our society doesn't fucking hate cops. Stop with that "war on cops" nonsense. It's delusional.

It's not the "war on cops". It's that instead of blaming the person responsible it would be stereotyped into being the police's responsibility. Yes the dog is "dangerous" but the intent of which is sound. They are extremely helpful in finding the aggressor in an extreme situation and good at what they do. There is so much blaming the dog for even being there that it's overlooked that the problem is the person being an asshole. People who have no idea of the training these dogs go through or the purposes of their use in police work are going over the top in essentially saying it's the police officers fault for having it there. Sorry but it's his fault for not being respectful and a good person.

 

[JustenP88]

It's not the "war on cops". It's that instead of blaming the person responsible it would be stereotyped into being the police's responsibility. Yes the dog is "dangerous" but the intent of which is sound. They are extremely helpful in finding the aggressor in an extreme situation and good at what they do. There is so much blaming the dog for even being there that it's overlooked that the problem is the person being an asshole. People who have no idea of the training these dogs go through or the purposes of their use in police work are going over the top in essentially saying it's the police officers fault for having it there. Sorry but it's his fault for not being respectful and a good person.

Again, nobody is blaming the dog because I assume we all know the dog didn't make a conscious decision to be there. The dog didn't dream as a pup of growing up and being trained to run head first into danger to maim people.

It goes without saying that you shouldn't mess around with police dogs. Not a smart move. It also doesn't seem like a smart move to have these animals anywhere near large groups of people if they're so easily provoked.

 

[Beerman462]

Again, nobody is blaming the dog because I assume we all know the dog didn't make a conscious decision to be there. The dog didn't dream as a pup of growing up and being trained to run head first into danger to maim people.

It goes without saying that you shouldn't mess around with police dogs. Not a smart move. It also doesn't seem like a smart move to have these animals anywhere near large groups of people if they're so easily provoked.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense to have a dog out in that situation. Reminds me of when I was much younger and I came out of concert. It was a weird venue, they basically temporarily walled off a space outside a bar. There were lots of people there with only one way out. At the exit there were three mounted police. Being a drunk young idiot that grew up with horses I walked up and tried to talk to the cops and pet the horses. They told me to fuck off. Back then I was indignant, but now I realize they were there to stop drunk idiots from causing shit and I was just another distraction. I'm also thinking now what would happen if some shit did go down and you got three cops on horses someone might get trampled. Curious to see how it turns out. I doubt they even collect a fine. Oh well off to bed.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Let the murderers, rapists, and pedos walk free. Prison is for the real psychos in the world, such as people barking at dogs.

'Murica.

Are you implying that America doesn't arrest or prosecute murderers, rapists or pedos?

 

[Subpar Scrub]

I'd dare them to pursue charges and tell them exactly where to stick their fine.

If you're a handler, do your fucking job. If you're not capable, quit and let somebody else do it.

I feel like riling up a dog in its duties is just detrimental to all involved. It makes the handlers job harder and endangers people. Just wondering, do you think there should be a fine for aggitating/distracting other police dogs during their duties, such as trying to play with a bomb-sniffing dog at an event? I believe so.

 

[ZoddGutts]

Fucking dumbass.

 

[Zoggy]

If the law is in place to prevent people from taunting police dogs because the police may not be able to handle the dog and it could hurt others uncontrollably...

then the police shouldn't have attack dogs

 

[Zoggy]

I feel like riling up a dog in its duties is just detrimental to all involved. It makes the handlers job harder and endangers people. Just wondering, do you think there should be a fine for aggitating/distracting other police dogs during their duties, such as trying to play with a bomb-sniffing dog at an event? I believe so.

if the dog is so uncontrollable that it can be hard to handle, then it shouldn't be there.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

if the dog is so uncontrollable that it can be hard to handle, then it shouldn't be there.

I agree that the handler should have complete control of the dog, but I still think purposefully agitating/distracting a police dog during its duties deserves a fine.

 

[Discotheque]

he should be fined 50 bucks at the most (regardless of his wealth as an NFL player) this law is goofy as hell.

 

[Beerman462]

I feel like riling up a dog in its duties is just detrimental to all involved. It makes the handlers job harder and endangers people. Just wondering, do you think there should be a fine for aggitating/distracting other police dogs during their duties, such as trying to play with a bomb-sniffing dog at an event? I believe so.

if the dog is so uncontrollable that it can be hard to handle, then it shouldn't be there.

Both of you have a point and you could argue back and forth till the end of time.

If the dog is uncontrollable(it wasn't or we would be having a different discussion) it shouldn't be there.

Why is a grown man antagonizing a working dog? I don't know it was stupid, but initiating a criminal investigtoation that could lead to prison or a 15k fine is just as stupid and massively excessive.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Both of you have a point and you could argue back and forth till the end of time.

If the dog is uncontrollable(it wasn't or we would be having a different discussion) it shouldn't be there.

Why is a grown man antagonizing a working dog? I don't know it was stupid, but initiating a criminal investigtoation that could lead to prison or a 15k fine is just as stupid and massively excessive.

Yeah, it's silliness all round.