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[PorygonVandal]

If this was Tom Brady the dog would have been put to sleep.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Hey, cops, control your weapons.

 

[whitehawk]

This is why I hate when people start talking about the sentencing guidelines. The average kid on this forum has no idea what it actually means so we get people thinking he's literally going to get 7 years for taunting a police K-9.

HE IS NOT GOING TO GO TO PRISON FOR 7 YEARS.

.

hes not getting 7 years, or any jailtime for that matter.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Is it a crime to taunt a cop? Then why is it a crime to taunt a cop's dog?

 

[Mr. X]

Abusrd "crime"

 

[ReadingRambo]

Is it a crime to taunt a cop? Then why is it a crime to taunt a cop's dog?

Yes it is. Not just cops either.

 

[hipbabboom]

OH FUCK THIS SHITTY COUNTRY'S LAWS!

I'm fucking sick of this shit!

 

[old]

7 years for taunting a dog seems really fucking excessive.

 

[Symphonia]

Let the murderers, rapists, and pedos walk free. Prison is for the real psychos in the world, such as people barking at dogs.

'Murica.

 

[BajiBoxer]

No way he gets more than a fine, but the law still sounds crazy having a 7 year prison stint as any kind of option for taunting a police officer.

 

[ReadingRambo]

Due to the idiotic decision on the part of the OP to include the maximum possible sentence for a class 3 felony in the thread title (which will never ever be applied in this case) this thread is now no longer about a player taunting a police officer (yes a K-9 is a sworn officer, start another thread if you want to freak out about that shit) but about HURR DURR 7 YEARS IN PRISON FUCK THIS DUMB COUNTRY.

 

[joedan]

Can be easily resolved. No need to get the cops involved.

 

[Kinyou]

I could walk out of my house right now and go up to a cop and say "hey there You dirty donut eating fat fuck pig" and guess what would happen ? NOTHING !!!!! but doesn't mean i will but i still got The First Amendment.

Eh, I wouldn't really try it. Couldn't he get you for disorderly conduct?

 

[pestul]

As dangerous as the situation may have became, no one got hurt in the end. There should be no jail time here, only a warning or a fine. Brutal legal system you guys have there..

 

[King Tubby]

would you walk up to a squad car and taunt a Police Officer?

No, the penalty for that is usually death.

 

[Oppo]

how about the idea that you can drive an on-leash trained police dog "crazy" by simply waving your arms and yelling?

I mean working dogs for sight-impaired people need to deal with WAY more shit than that.

"Bandit was very agitated. He wanted me to let him go. I imagine with his training and experience he would have gone to his target who was taunting him. I don't want to speculate on what he would have done," she said.

this statement is baffling. is the dog trained or not? like, really wtf? imagine? speculate?

 

[DeTaInSaMuRAi]

Should we be reading into the fact that a black man pounding his chest and saying "hey dog" can get a trained police dog ready to kill?

Some fucked up shit ain't it.
That's the fucked country we live in man.

 

[gutter_trash]

Taunting a dog should inherently be worse than taunting a human. The human should have self-control while the dog will react as it was trained to react to aggressive behavior.

Jail time is obviously still absurd in this case, but this should definitely be a crime.

Just fine him and move on.

Fines should be proportionned to the income of the offender

fining a person who does minimum wage is more devastating than giving out the same fine to a millionaire

 

[Ray Wonder]

Well if he goes to jail for 7 years, there will be tons of protests and that law will be changed. I can almost guarantee that.

But I doubt very much he even goes to jail at all.

 

[IISANDERII]

This is why I hate when people start talking about the sentencing guidelines. The average kid on this forum has no idea what it actually means so we get people thinking he's literally going to get 7 years for taunting a police K-9.

HE IS NOT GOING TO GO TO PRISON FOR 7 YEARS.

Unless the judge has a bad day and decides he doesn't like the defendant.

 

[adamsappel]

this statement is baffling. is the dog trained or not? like, really wtf? imagine? speculate?

The police dog is trained to attack people (assist dogs are trained to ignore people). The attack is actually his reward, and police often allow the attack even when a suspect is under control, otherwise the dog's training is compromised.

 

[Oppo]

The police dog is trained to attack people (assist dogs are trained to ignore people). The attack is actually his reward, and police often allow the attack even when a suspect is under control, otherwise the dog's training is compromised.

well.. the 2nd part of that statement is totally fucked up, if true.

but my understanding is that the dogs are trained to do a number of things, subduing being one of them, by latching onto the arm and distracting a suspect.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I mean, taunting a police dog is comparable to making terrorist threats, so this seems reasonable to me.

 

[Dali]

So police k9s have the same amount of restraint as their human counterparts.

This is ridiculous. They are basically admitting to having a dangerous weapon they can barely control around the general public.

 

[dave is ok]

Thread title should be honest and just say he could face a fine. No one is going to give someone 7 years for that.

 

[The Real Abed]

Wow. Really? I bark back at dogs all the time. I don't mean to but it's like a knee jerk reaction. This is just silly overreaction.

Now if the dog could tell he did something wrong and was justified in its barking then they have something. But just barking back at a dog is a stupid thing to be convicted for.

Edit: A fine I can see. Still it's silly. But come on. Whatever.

 

[Thebeardofknowledge]

Due to the idiotic decision on the part of the OP to include the maximum possible sentence for a class 3 felony in the thread title (which will never ever be applied in this case) this thread is now no longer about a player taunting a police officer (yes a K-9 is a sworn officer, start another thread if you want to freak out about that shit) but about HURR DURR 7 YEARS IN PRISON FUCK THIS DUMB COUNTRY.

hahahahha dat thread whining

you seem really emotional do you want a hug ?

Eh, I wouldn't really try it. Couldn't he get you for disorderly conduct?

it's possible i suppose but usually cops wont do anything

 

[DarkKyo]

How is a fine reasonable here? It's a fucking dog. I'd really like to know when this law was written.

What?? That dog is a dangerous animal trained to track and disable at a moment's notice, and it's more or less police equipment. This immature dick made a dog wild with rage, making the police officers have to spend time and energy to calm the dog down. Taunting a dog isn't the issue here, in a way it was taunting the police officers and disrupting their jobs basically. I don't think this guy should get prison time but he does have to seriously smarten up, it was just a dumb thing to do.

 

[DrForester]

How is a fine reasonable here? It's a fucking dog. I'd really like to know when this law was written.

He was interfering with security, and safety. A fine sound perfectly reasonable if he really was taunting the police dog as the article says.


Jail time would be ridiculous though.

 

[gutter_trash]

What?? That dog is a dangerous animal trained to track and disable at a moment's notice, and it's more or less police equipment. This immature dick made a dog wild with rage, making the police officers have to spend time and energy to calm the dog down. Taunting a dog isn't the issue here, in a way it was taunting the police officers and disrupting their jobs basically. I don't think this guy should get prison time but he does have to seriously smarten up, it was just a dumb thing to do.

Dogs aren't pieces of equipment, they are sentient beings

 

[Dali]

Due to the idiotic decision on the part of the OP to include the maximum possible sentence for a class 3 felony in the thread title (which will never ever be applied in this case) this thread is now no longer about a player taunting a police officer (yes a K-9 is a sworn officer, start another thread if you want to freak out about that shit) but about HURR DURR 7 YEARS IN PRISON FUCK THIS DUMB COUNTRY.

The maximum sentence is what they hang over your head to force compliance in whatever sort of punishment they want to issue in lieu of the max, so its still relevant. Maybe not so much for a rich person that can afford a proper defense but say Joe schmo was hit with the same charge. The DA offers a month in jail, or a week... Or even a day. Poor Joe jumps at it because hell a month is better than 7 years even though for something like this even a day is too much.

 

[Ray Wonder]

Dogs aren't pieces of equipment, they are sentient beings

Those aren't mutually exclusive though.

 

[RoryDropkick]

We all know this is obviously what could have happened...

 

[TheJollyCorner]

hahahahha dat thread whining

you seem really emotional do you want a hug ?

He's right, though. You're the one that appears to have a very loose understanding of the First Amendment. It's ok. Threads CAN be educational.

 

[Kite]

I always laugh when these clickbait articles put in the max penalties in order to stir up outrage. The actual penalty will be much lower if at all.

 

[PopeReal]

Due to the idiotic decision on the part of the OP to include the maximum possible sentence for a class 3 felony in the thread title (which will never ever be applied in this case) this thread is now no longer about a player taunting a police officer (yes a K-9 is a sworn officer, start another thread if you want to freak out about that shit) but about HURR DURR 7 YEARS IN PRISON FUCK THIS DUMB COUNTRY.

Can I ask why you seem to be so emotionally invested in this thread?

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

So police k9s have the same amount of restraint as their human counterparts.

This is ridiculous. They are basically admitting to having a dangerous weapon they can barely control around the general public.

Bingo. Not even a pet, a weapon.

 

[Ray Wonder]

Due to the idiotic decision on the part of the OP to include the maximum possible sentence for a class 3 felony in the thread title (which will never ever be applied in this case) this thread is now no longer about a player taunting a police officer (yes a K-9 is a sworn officer, start another thread if you want to freak out about that shit) but about HURR DURR 7 YEARS IN PRISON FUCK THIS DUMB COUNTRY.

I agree with you.

 

[TS-08]

Yes it is. Not just cops either.

Is it? How does taunting escape First Amendment protection? the fighting words exception that isn't really much of an exception? I'd like to know how you're defining a "taunt."

 

[psynergylover]

I doubt he'll get anything but a fine, the NFl union(if even needed) will most likey make this go away

 

[rootbeerafloat]

Does anyone think this guy was actually taunting the dog? He most likely came out of the locker room, hyped up with his teammates, saw a dog, probably spent 3 seconds making a barking noise, and walked away. There's no way that's what the law is trying to prevent. Guess we'll just have to wait and see the video.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Not all dogs

 

[ReadingRambo]

Can I ask why you seem to be so emotionally invested in this thread?

Because clickbait thread titles muddy the waters for the people trying to discuss the actual issue.

 

[levious]

Hey, cops, control your weapons.

The dog reacted the same way any other cop would.


Oh dali already made that joke.

 

[Thebeardofknowledge]

Can I ask why you seem to be so emotionally invested in this thread?

He's probably a cop

Spoiler

or a dog

Spoiler

or a dog cop

 

[Dali]

The dog reacted the same way any other cop would.

The dog didn't maul the guy and claim it had to do it because it feared for its life.

 

[Cagey]

I always laugh when these clickbait articles put in the max penalties in order to stir up outrage. The actual penalty will be much lower if at all.

Given the thread and some of the replies, it's clearly a strategy that works.

 

[arya's prayer]

Is it? How does taunting escape First Amendment protection? the fighting words exception that isn't really much of an exception? I'd like to know how you're defining a "taunt."

It doesn't. he just doesn't know what he's talking about. You can call a cop a fat pig. Fighting words are a very specific thing that basically mean words that would immediately cause a person to lose rational thought and react violently. Like calling someone the n word. Calling a cop a fat pig would never ever be considered fighting words by any court in 2015.

They could most likely arrest you on disturbing the peace though. But even that would be just to make your life miserable by making you pay an attorney to get the charge dropped.

 

[Loakum]

An investigation over taunting a dog? LOL

Their tax paying dollars are being well spent. (this is silly)

 

[v0yce]

The First Amendment does not protect obscenity, child pornography, true threats, fighting words, incitement to imminent lawless action, criminal solicitation or defamation. You would absolutely get arested and charged with disorderly conduct if you went and said "hey there You dirty donut eating fat fuck pig".

Fighting words like "bark, bark. woof." and "Hey dog." ?

Come on.

This is ridiculous. They are basically admitting to having a dangerous weapon they can barely control around the general public.

Yep.