shinobi602
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I'm not watching that shit.
People hurting animals gets my blood boiling.
People hurting animals gets my blood boiling.
What the ****ing ****, China? Monkey gets tied and beaten by park employees
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He didn't indicate that kids who abuse animals are mentally challenged. You suggested that he was the abnormal one in this thread for his views and he countered by saying that if he was the only normal person in a room full of people with downs syndrome that he would be the abnormal one in that situation too.
KefkaPalazzo
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Lasted 8 seconds...I knew I shouldn't of watched it after I saw it was on Liveleak...who the hell enjoys watching that shit?
PenguinPoacher
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I think you have more issues than the guy who made a mistake when he was a kid.
Yes, well I'm sorry but he still is "abnormal" if he thinks all people who have abused animals deserve death.
HollovVpo1nt
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I suddenly remember that one video of some kids in an Eastern country who put a tiny dog on fire.
I still hear those screams
Just googled the video for some reason.. damn that was sickening on multiple levels. Any person who gets enjoyment out of this is insane. wow.
Pandas are regarded as a sacred national treasure. Everything else however...
Never said that.
Indeed.
My issue is my hate towards animal abuse(rs) by anyone (no matter the age or how long ago). It's the thing that pisses me off the most in the world.
So kill an animal = kill the person who killed the animal?
These chinese folk beat a monkey to death = beat them to death?
Can Crusher
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This shit gets me boiling so much that if I was there I would probably do something stupid.
Absolutely disgusting. There's just something wrong with China's education and morals man, I don't wanna come across as xenophobic but this kind of shit isn't uncommon.
Here in Portugal there are already multiple cases of Chinese groups abducting dogs and killing them. I thought it was bullshit until last week somebody I know had their dog kidnapped from the front yard, and later found the dog in some shack with the mouth full of blood, and a bunch of dead dogs. He picked his dog and had to run and call the police, shots were fired.
I don't what's up with morals over there. It's hard for me to understand how do you create this emotional distance, and just torture an animal. How much of a piece of shit you have to be?
Near death. So the kids can come back and think if it's worth it.
But yeah, beating them to near death sounds pretty fair.
Absolutely disgusting. There's just something wrong with China's education and morals man, I don't wanna come across as xenophobic but this kind of shit isn't uncommon.
Here in Portugal there are already multiple cases of Chinese groups abducting dogs and killing them. I thought it was bullshit until last week somebody I know had their dog kidnapped from the front yard, and later found the dog in some shack with the mouth full of blood, and a bunch of dead dogs. He picked his dog and had to run and call the police, shots were fired.
I don't what's up with morals over there. It's hard for me to understand how do you create this emotional distance, and just torture an animal. How much of a piece of shit you have to be?
Near death. So the kids can come back and think if it's worth it.
But yeah, beating them to near death sounds pretty fair.
In this case yes. These fuckers clearly are just doing it for fun / no reason. So in my eyes they deserve to go trough what they did to this defenseless animal.
Throwing a rock in some defenseless animal's face = throw a rock in your face.
kurisu_1974
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I wonder if you eat them tho.
It's not that weird to be honest. I hate animal abuse like this, it really makes me cringe, but still... human curiosity and all... you'll still want to see the actual video. Well, most of us at least. There are exceptions.
Can Crusher
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This is just one of those disaster arguments. It's dumb, it's stupid, it's illogical, it goes nowhere, it doesn't bring any kind of point that should be evaluated.
kurisu_1974
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...and I'm sure you'd eat them too.
Additional info: it's called being consequent. "I'll never torture animals, but if someone else tortures them, I'll eat them afterwards".
Illogical it is.
deejay8595
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Come on.. Don't compare watching video of a live chicken being microwaved for 10 minutes to eating one that is freshly prepared.
Charoncaori
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Eh, considering animals can get tortured in slaughterhouses on the way to your dinner plate (depending on where you live), it's not a completely illogical point in this case.
I imagine some of those shock videos were probably made up by PETA though.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have any qualms about eating meat, just how the animal is treated.
abstract alien
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Yeah, those involved in this can die a terrible death and not one tear would fall from my eyes. Shit is sickening, as well as cowardly.
So now it's not absolute anymore?
If you are on right tracks, the issue is about social standards and just going apeshit on people living in that society would solve absolutely nothing. Who knows, maybe it will drive them to even more horrible behaviour.
Yeah, so this guy makes a mistake as a child and feels terrible for it. You, I'm assuming an adult make that statement. I think it's clear that you're the one with issues.
Charoncaori
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I usually keep my mouth shut because I understand the human need to vent about things/blame people, but you really think that a bunch of people should be horribly tortured just because they did it to an animal? It's still torture dude. You're entitled to your opinion, but I'm glad not everyone thinks the same way you do. =P
AuthenticM
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This serves as a reminder of why everybody hates China.
Kyleripman
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That's a good point...but surely there are some people (zoo employees SHOULD be amongst them but I guess maybe aren't always) who would be open to these ideas in the East, if they are consistently exposed to them.
Treating animals like humans might be too strange for some cultures, but surely NOT beating them should be an easier concept. I guess the idea that "humans have it worse, so don't worry about animals right now" could be dangerous if it leads to indifference.
I am also glad not everyone is a lunatic.
Damon Bennet
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these threads are always full of hypocrisy
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Why is there a trend lately where negative news stories that happen to occur in China suddenly embody the behavior of the entire populace? Like that story about the girl who got hit and run over twice with people walking by where tons of posters compared Chinese citizens to uncaring monsters, as if that couldn't have happened in New York City (Kitty Genovese anyone?).
Be appalled by it all you want, but this kind of shit:
is just ridiculous.
huehuehue
and yes that's my view. I understand some people don't like it/agree with it and that's their right.
So if a 5 year old threw a rock in an animals face(and I don't at all doubt that it hasn't happened many times before) you would do the honours of throwing a rock in their face as well? Good luck with that Mr. Black and White.
These generalizations confuse the fuck out of me, simply because of the amount of threads showing disgusting shit going on in other countries and no one uses that to paint the picture of the entire culture at large.
Charoncaori
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Devil's advocate: Kitty Genovese is a gross misinterpretation of what actually happened. People called the cops immediately, and iirc the police couldn't find the crime scene at first.
So yeah, that absolutely couldn't happen in NYC, especially with all the "see something? Say something" shit we hear on the subway every day.
Interfectum
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Ether... haha
Black and white? what's so black and white about what I said?
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
That absolutely could have happened in NYC or another city or place in the United States, that's just the only example I had off the top of my head. Devil's advocate: the case of the girl getting run over and passed up in the street is probably not as clear cut as what we see in the security camera footage.
My point in bringing it up isn't to tar as much as ask why we feel it's okay to generalize one society because we don't understand or feel threatened by. Holding up these actions as examples of an entire populace is ridiculous. The kind of behavior required for these actions are human weaknesses you can find in many societies.
hurt an animal = you get hurt just as bad no matter the context.
Wowwwww.
I'm not taking an isolated incident and extrapolating it too far. China's maltreatment of animals is common knowledge. Ever heard of bear farming? There are videos of still beating hearts of dogs skinned alive in fur factories. They are the biggest animal farming nation and they have no laws protecting them.
And its a hypocritical view. Torture should not beget torture. Lots of misguided people in this thread. In regards to the video, it is beyond sickening. What is even more disheartening is watching the other monkeys witnessing it. It looks as if they wanted to help their friend but could do nothing.
Big Baybee
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Why are you doing this? What you are talking about doing to people that have abused animals is just as barbaric as what the person did to an animal. Do you not understand that?
Charoncaori
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I agree that it's not right to generalize an entire society, especially one as huge and varied as China. I just happen to live in NYC. =P
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
That's cool Char, and I didn't mean to slight NYC I just meant to illustrate my example by using another big city.
China may need to do some evolving on their policies in protection of animal rights and ethical treatment, but I don't think it's fair to hold up examples of neglect and abuse as a moral failing on the entire populace.
I can agree with you on the point that thee main difference here being in established law and policy for protecting animal rights, as I have no doubt abuse and neglect occurs in other societies that mass produce and harvest animals as well.
China may need to do some evolving on their policies in protection of animal rights and ethical treatment, but I don't think it's fair to hold up examples of neglect and abuse as a moral failing on the entire populace.
This is a poor troll effort. Don't quit your day job.
Soyongdori
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The monkey that was being beaten was japanese macaque.
Well, now we know why he beat that monkey with a stick.
Well, now we know why he beat that monkey with a stick.
Lord Ghirahim
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Excellent.
Can Crusher
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Well of course, it wouldn't resolve the bigger issue. But punishment can exist while at the same time the cultural issue is resolved.
I do feel like animals shouldn't be treated like this, so whatever works to resolve that I'm in. But I would still want to beat the shit out of that guy.
Well they eat dog meat in China. They peel the skin off the dogs while they are still alive.
Now, in my country we aren't allowed to do that, so that's one thing that makes me believe they have a terrible way of looking at animals as a society overall. Or there would be certain laws against it.
I don't see the point in pointing out these posts. Is it an attempt to "shame"?
People make comments like this ALL the time in threads revolving around America.
Also, it doesn't help that the title in the OP uses that over-generalization as well.
Rainbow In The Dark
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I tend to watch these kind of videos just for curiosity, but I don't feel like ruining my day.
Also WTF at all those generalizations about China in this thread.
Also WTF at all those generalizations about China in this thread.
bigboss370
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i've seen more heartbreaking things. like the same thing happening to humans. and other worse stuff....
ElectricBlue187
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You're really making an equivalence between a stopping a brutal murder and helping a small child that got run over in the road? Nope. Not seeing it.
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