Only if it runs at 60FPS; anything else and I'd be disappointed.
Stolen from the PC screenshots thread.
What will next gen graphics look like?
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For launch title uncharted or killzone at 1080 p resolution would look glorious.
You'll definitely be able to spot the difference. BF3 is beautiful, just not a technological marvel. The PS4 and 720 will probably also be a notch more powerful than the Wii U. But yeah, it won't be about graphics this time. But then again, graphics haven't mattered any time ever, except for next-gen topics on gaming forums
Graphics always matter, how else will they over-shadow each other at shows and conferences.
It's one of the biggest reasons to try and sell their console more than the other. If PS4 can do the same games as nextbox but with more effects and a higher resolution and framerate which version will you purchase?
Resolution is not everything. I'm sure most of the casual players didn't see any difference between b3 on PS3 and PC. Also, B3 on consoles looks terrifically good for a 6 years hardware.
60FPS and 1080p does matter, yes, but mostly for a PC only players.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...at-720p-comparison-gallery-comparison-gallery
and
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/battlefield-3-ps3-vs-pc-face-off-video
If this is what current gen console hardware can do, I expect Samaritan demo at least in 720p and 30 fps:
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60FPS and 1080p does matter, yes, but mostly for a PC only players.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...at-720p-comparison-gallery-comparison-gallery
and
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/battlefield-3-ps3-vs-pc-face-off-video
If this is what current gen console hardware can do, I expect Samaritan demo at least in 720p and 30 fps:
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its funny that the UC3 spoiler gifs are in here. I'm guessing its okay now after a month to spoil locales.
I thought the chateau forest was hideous to look at. The AA in there was terrible and it looked bad. I stared at it on my 52" tv and was like "what happened here". In that gif, it looks great.
ah well, can't discuss next gen graphics without highlighting the best of current gen visuals.
I thought the chateau forest was hideous to look at. The AA in there was terrible and it looked bad. I stared at it on my 52" tv and was like "what happened here". In that gif, it looks great.
ah well, can't discuss next gen graphics without highlighting the best of current gen visuals.
Are the gifs really necessary? Can't stand how any topic here about graphics has to be a PS3 gif thread. =/
If you say so, though I'd be happier with BF3 level graphics.
If you say so, though I'd be happier with BF3 level graphics.
Not to mention that some of those could be considered as spoilers.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
I do not get the BF3 graphical love. I am playing the pc version but I have played a lot of things similar to it on 360/ps3. It goe3s with the used and abused mostly baked in shadows and lighting approach with a high contrast hdr lighting effect.
There are more technically impressive games out there.
Posted them, because the expectations are much lower that expected. Also, IQ is never that important in console realm
Anyone remember Dreamcast in 1999? With Soul Calibur, NBA 2K and Shenmue (in Japan)? There isn't anything close on PC at that year. And i'm not talking IQ related stuff - res, AA, AF, FPS will always be better on PC. Always. If this components are so important for you, just buy a powerful PC.
sixteen-bit
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You're mistaken. Graphics have never made that differencein the history of gaming. Graphics only matter for enthusiasts. I definitely love me some good graphics, but I am too going to buy the console with the games and special controller I like best (probably Wii U first and PS4 later if this-gen exclusives are anything to go by) like the majority of people.
Somehow it seems that people find it some sort of obligation console manufacturers have to give them a super power console. Since the last ~7 years however, you simply can't get this power in a box everyone can fit under your TV. It's not as if the manufacturer's aren't trying.
We already know next gen will look like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD2lmN3RdEA&feature=related
you find this impressive? this is on par with current gen (PS360) if not worse looking that some games.
Hell no.
Because You're mistaking art with technology. BF 3 is so ahead KZ 3 and U3 in terms of technology, that its not even funny.
BTW i still think God of War 3 is technologically more advanced that U3.
No, in the realm of consoles - graphics have NEVER mattered. Ever. If the last few generations haven't taught you anything, the next generation won't have taught you anything either.
It's always about the software. Always. Visuals mean jack.
DCKing said:
Yes, exactly.
DCKing said:
More exactly! Unless someone makes a console that looks like this:
No... I swear, every one of these threads. I'm going to quote myself from a month ago:
StevieP said:
The end. Stop looking at it.
they're examples of prime examples of current gen best graphics and isn't about PS3 gifs. I welcome gears gifs if anyone wants to post. Your fanboy flag is showing.
stop posting like an idiot. I said "if we can have samaritan level of graphics next gen, that would be fantastic.". Its a great visual target and no reason why they can't pull it off at 720p.
I agree with this LOZwiiU comment. Its 6+ years LTTP and looks... like a subpar mid gen x360/ps3 game.
Lovely Salsa
Banned
They will look better than Witcher 2
RoboFu
One of the green rats
FALSE
4k resolution TV's won't be standard by then. 1080p is going to be the standard for a long time, people won't want to upgrade that soon.
scar tissue
Banned
True. BF3 has huuuuuge levels in mp. KZ3 and UC3 are corridor shooters.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I appreciate the Gifs but goddamnn!!!! lol...but really? is Crysis 2 on PC so much better looking than Uncharted? really?
It's impressive for current gen standards, not NEXT gen standards.
Warm Machine
Member
A 360/PS3 has held fast over 6 years. I doubt you could take a late 2005 PC and run Battlefield 3 on it, but you can run a competent version of Battlefield 3 on a 360.
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Hesus fuckin Christ
Get rid of those .gifs dude.
Get rid of those .gifs dude.
There is a lot more lighting/GI going on in that Zelda demo than either current gen HD console could pull off without grinding to a halt.
I assure you, it can.
Posted them, because the expectations are much lower that expected. Also, IQ is never that important in console realm
Anyone remember Dreamcast in 1999? With Soul Calibur, NBA 2K and Shenmue (in Japan)? There isn't anything close on PC at that year. And i'm not talking IQ related stuff - res, AA, AF, FPS will always be better on PC. Always. If this components are so important for you, just buy a powerful PC.
Dreamcast is going back a bit too much imo. I think its best to look at the current gen at launch. They had some very impressive tech demos but in the end the games themselves were about on par with what was already available on PC.
I don't think next-gen will be any different, in fact it might be worse since the focus has been taken away from graphics and horsepower. The rumors that the next xbox will come with kinect is a huge indication of that. If it comes with kinect AND its priced at around $300 than I just can't see it surpassing current pc graphics.
Even Though Uncharted is not as open as BF3 but the amount of stuff going on in the background and the animations make it worth it.
Warm Machine
Member
And would it measure up to the 360 version?
So lightning = next gen? Ok cute. Besides you are over exaggerating, AND that is TECH demo. Killzone 2 tech demo, and few other looked very "bright" and what not. We remember how that one ended. So we can discuss about lighting when we see the game in motion.
Out of curiosity, what setting are you playing it on?
We'll have to agree to disagree because I don't see much that matches BF3 on the PC.
Any gif is pointless since they make games look better than they really are. I'd say the same thing if someone flooded Gears gifs in every graphic thread, but that doesn't really happen (thankfully), now does it?
Don't really see how that makes me a fanboy...Anyone have a Core 2 Duo and an X1900xt lying around for some comparison screens?
Yes, lighting and tessellation will be the defining features of next gen. That, and more consistent 720p resolution (with some 1080 sprinkled in for some select games), rather than 540p/600p near-SD crap.
Killzone 2 was entirely CGI. Zelda was running on hardware, being rendered twice from different angles on both a TV and a tablet from said dev hardware. Gigantic difference.
If those examples are what next gen looks like then next gen will be severely disappointing.
Salvor.Hardin
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edit. wrong thread.
So you claim that Zelda game iz using tessellation?!
Agreed. Don't see the point then.
but it doesn't look better. and there's no AI in that demo
I think God of war 3 is the best looking game on console considering it is running at higher fps then most of the games as well.
http://i.imgur.com/DuS6Z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Mfsl7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DuS6Z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Mfsl7.jpg
Animation is just amount of assets. And background? You mean those low poly building or 2D images?
Lighting is ahead both games [KZ 3 dont even have HDR lol].
Particles? Ahead
Amount of geometry? Ahead
Destructibility? Ahead
Streaming? Ahead
Starting titles will look like that for sure, but next-gen will bring graphics even better than Samaritan demo ;]
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
1080p/60fps/AA aren't just bullet points. I consider anything less to be unacceptable image quality. I doubt that we'll be getting Cry2/BF3 caliber visuals at the next gen's launch with that kind of IQ, and if we did it would be ridiculous to complain about it.
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