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[Meifu]

For example just to illustrate what were talking about

Say there is a post about RDR2 crunch and I posted something that says something like "Sounds like tough conditions, but a great product requires passion and sacrificing other parts of your life if you want to be part of a truly outstanding project"

I feel as though saying that in the old world would get you banned for having "toxic views on working conditions" or something to that extent.

 

[Skyn3t]

GAF is only for the coolest of edgelords, while Era consists of cucks and sjw crazies.

 

[King of Foxes]

Well i was able to make this thread and not get banned, that should tell you enough how normal gaf is now

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/what-and-who-do-you-find-attractive.1465320/

 

[Alebrije]

The traffic is improving a litte every time.......maybe some users returned to Gaf after the "storm" , a lot of people thought by this days the forum would be dead so it seems its doing fine.....

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Too many alt right people here. We need more alt control delete people imho.

 

[Skyn3t]

Alt right people? Where, who? Seriously, I didn't noticed any, but maybe because I don't visit the Politics subforum.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Alt right people? Where, who? Seriously, I didn't noticed any, but maybe because I don't visit the Politics subforum.

Wake up!

You must feel the Nazi’s around you. Here between you, me, behind the tree, and the rocks, everywhere. Yes, even between the land and the ship.

 

[JordanN]

There's far less corruption.

Old GAF and modern Resetera are plagued by mods who conspire against users.

Even though I lean politically right, I still do not want to see anyone banned for presenting views I disagree with.

Meanwhile, here's what "woke" and "progressive" moderation gets you:

 

[Skyn3t]

So NeoGAF is really stormfront.org v2? I'm shocked

 

[bitbydeath]

It’s like on DBZ when Kami removed the evil Piccolo from within. Maybe they’ll join forces again one day but meanwhile dick bag Piccolo who wants to destroy the world resides in Era.

 

[thief183]

The Online stats show that we are growing and actually everyone is free to say whatever they want (with respect for the others) without getting banned.

I don't think that there are more roght wing persons, is just that now they can talk without getting banned.

This place is awesome.

 

[Blam]

Honestly I hope Cunth that you never change that avatar you've been avatar quoted so many damn times and it makes me laugh every time.

 

[cryptoadam]

I'm only here until my Resetera account is approved, then it's "bye bye, fuckers"!

Until they ban you and then you are right back here

 

[Skyn3t]

You have to kiss SweetNicole to be able to register on Era. With tongue and without panties. Quite a challenge, I must admit.

 

[cryptoadam]

I would like for the gaming side to be a bit more active, and opposed to oldGAF it doesn't seem to have as many insiders or people in the industry posting here.

ERA and oldGAF you can get a lot of info on the gaming industry, newGAF seems like a lot of C&P from ERA's threads about games.

Hopefully with time GAF can get its gaming credentials back, the board originally started as a gaming board if I am not mistaken.

 

[Blam]

I would like for the gaming side to be a bit more active, and opposed to oldGAF it doesn't seem to have as many insiders or people in the industry posting here.

ERA and oldGAF you can get a lot of info on the gaming industry, newGAF seems like a lot of C&P from ERA's threads about games.

Hopefully with time GAF can get its gaming credentials back, the board originally started as a gaming board if I am not mistaken.

I'd like that too, I mean I wouldn't say I'm an insider but I have handful of stuff tucked away.

You have to kiss SweetNicole to be able to register on Era. With tongue and without panties. Quite a challenge, I must admit.

Or like me tell her you're going to be posting on GAF along side ERA and get permabanned because she doesn't like you.

 

[Skyn3t]

I always laugh when reading about industry people on Era. There are some, but as far as I know noone really important, outspoken and charismatic. Real leakers and insiders can be now found on 4chan's v board and Reddit, where they are anonymous. Not vERAfied by the gurus of that other, inferior forum.

 

[Blam]

I always laugh when reading about industry people on Era. There are some, but as far as I know noone really important, outspoken and charismatic. Real leakers and insiders can be now found on 4chan's v board and Reddit, where they are anonymous. Not vERAfied by the gurus of that other, inferior forum.

Well I mean I know of many things I could personally leak, but sources will get pissy lol.

 

[brap]

It's fine and will get better when people stop whining.

 

[Redneckerz]

Well I mean I know of many things I could personally leak, but sources will get pissy lol.

You were already too late. Sweet N just classified you as a

(Just one letter away from being part of a NPC - Non Prominent Community )

 

[TLZ]

This place has become much better compared to how it used to. I guess all the keyboard terrorists and snowflakes left to resetera.

I can have conversations without feeling I'm going to get jumped by hive minds.

I like this place now.

 

[Blam]

(Just one letter away from being part of a NPC - Non Prominent Community )

Damn straight. IM A NONPC BITCHES

 

[Raven117]

I think the moderation here now is fantastic. You can have a different opinion and as long as back it up and discuss in good faith, then you likely wont be banned. The other place, you can't even discuss certain issues without first accepting the ridged framework of ideologies that were preconceived to be the governing dynamics. (In other words, you better not question the outrage, or be banned).

I do wish the gaming side of the forum would pick up some posts. The old place (and now the other place) moves pretty fast. I miss that.

Also, the other place has become even more draconian over the last year. It was good for awhile, but slowly the old habits of the old place creeped over, and now its just as bad if not worse than the old place. As time marches on, I suspect that new Gaf will continue to gain members.

 

[DiscoJer]

It's a much nicer place, but it's a bit on the empty side.

 

[Chinpoko_Master]

I returned to GAF recently and I thought something was off. I noticed the forum runs at a slower pace than I remembered but I wasn't sure if I was just imagining things. Things make sense now.

After seeing who left, I have to say that this place seems much more tolerable now. I actually feel somewhat relieved.

 

[RiccochetJ]

It's become a lot more centrist imo. And that's a good thing.

Although instead of hearing people call you a Nazi for disagreeing with them, I'm seeing a lot more cucks and snowflakes being thrown around here nowadays. That's a bit concerning tbh.

I'd prefer both get a slap upside the head from the mods.

 

[Ivellios]

I think its in a good place, a bit slow yet but the forum will become more active with time.

Too many alt right people here. We need more alt control delete people imho.

Is this on the politics forum? honest question since i just post on gaming and off topic and i did not notice extremist alt rights so far.

It's become a lot more centrist imo. And that's a good thing.

Although instead of hearing people call you a Nazi for disagreeing with them, I'm seeing a lot more cucks and snowflakes being thrown around here nowadays. That's a bit concerning tbh.

I'd prefer both get a slap upside the head from the mods.

While i dont even know what a snowflake is (just that its a offensive word) i agree that people say these words far too much when disagreeing with someone.

 

[TheSadRanger]

I would like for the gaming side to be a bit more active, and opposed to oldGAF it doesn't seem to have as many insiders or people in the industry posting here.

ERA and oldGAF you can get a lot of info on the gaming industry, newGAF seems like a lot of C&P from ERA's threads about games.

Hopefully with time GAF can get its gaming credentials back, the board originally started as a gaming board if I am not mistaken.

I hate to break it but outside of major AAA popular releases and indie darlings, GAF was already in decline gaming side before the splinter off to ERA anyways.

It was quite difficult to find discussions for some lesser known indie titles or mid range games that were still really good. It didn't used to be that way.

 

[Chairman Tickles]

It's become a lot more centrist imo. And that's a good thing.

Although instead of hearing people call you a Nazi for disagreeing with them, I'm seeing a lot more cucks and snowflakes being thrown around here nowadays. That's a bit concerning tbh.

I'd prefer both get a slap upside the head from the mods.

In what universe is calling someone cuck and snowflake morally synonymous with accusing somebody of being a racist mass murderer?

 

[RiccochetJ]

In what universe is calling someone cuck and snowflake morally synonymous with accusing somebody of being a racist mass murderer?

Online it's the attempt of denigrating that persons opinion to the point where you can ignore it.

Yes, I'm claiming that our online back and forth has devolved to the point where we see Nazi and Cuck are the same level of insult. Then people like you use the historical context as a trump card.

 

[captainraincoat]

Place was a little slow at the start of the year but has picked up pace pretty well and the mods have been doing a great job of keeping the forum an open and civil place to discuss.

If you dont like the political crap just dont go in the separate forum

To those that love having views forced on them and are waiting for era memberships...take a look here and ask yourself how long do you think you will last if you are a straight white Male that does not align to sjw or extreme left views? http://resetera.kiwifarms.net


They are averaging close to around 500-700 bans per month

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

I think its in a good place, a bit slow yet but the forum will become more active with time.



Is this on the politics forum?

Its a joke ^^

 

[Wulfric]

Well, we don't have devs posting on here anymore, which is a shame. And I very rarely see GAF being cited as a source for breaking news anymore.

 

[Andyliini]

They are averaging close to around 500-700 bans per month

I was wondering about this. How many new users they get monthly? Do they ban more than they get new ones?

 

[captainraincoat]

Well, we don't have devs posting on here anymore, which is a shame. And I very rarely see GAF being cited as a source for breaking news anymore.

They don't have any notable devs posting on era anymore either...the last one got de-verified when he called out the place being a hostile place to post on.....any other devs that dont align get doxxed by either the hardcore sjw or the mods actually do it themselves....then your just left with the indie devs which unfortunately have to advertise on these forums in order to get people to pay/play.......but if they find out you dont tow the line you get added to the special reeeee shit list.

The rest are simply community or pr mouthpieces which simply regurgitate twitter feeds.

If you want to see devs posting stuff reddit is pretty much the only place to go now.

It's the actual community that makes a forum great and while small here now there are plenty of old school posters and new passonite posters in here now.

 

[captainraincoat]

I was wondering about this. How many new users they get monthly? Do they ban more than they get new ones?

Member count and posts have been steady uptick but the actual number you should look at is the unique poster count which has pretty much plateaued...this means that despite a steady increase of members/posts....these new people are not contributing or sticking around

There would be a large amount of people who would have no idea what's really going on over there and still quite a few sheep that followed the herd.

 

[Mr Nash]

It's in very good shape a year after the shake up. I've been on various incarnations of the forum since the late 90s. For a long time I enjoyed reading and commenting, but when things got overly political and it there was an atmosphere where everyone had to walk on egg shells I stepped back from participating here. It was disappointing because I really liked being part of the community. Over the last year, after a bunch of people left for Reset and pretty much the entire mod team was replaced, it feels like the GAF I used to know from the 00s. People can talk more openly without worrying about suddenly being banned. It's relaxed a lot.

Posts are also a lot more thoughtful. While some people have mentioned that NeoGAF feels slower than it used to be / compared to Reset, I look at it as quality over quantity. If one looks at posts nowadays here, they're generally fairly fleshed out and the person has put some thought into what they want to say. Compare that to posts in the last year here before the shake up, or against busy Reset threads, and you can see that there are a lot of low effort posts with no value. If there is a thread with 800 posts and 400 of them are posts with 5 words or less, I can't bring myself to care about them. They're the same as meaningless fly-by posts on Twitter. I'm happy to see posts here are returning to having more meat on their bones. =)

 

[Killer751]

We also are aware of our more 'energetic' posters who even after 'cease and desists' on certain behaviors they persist. Shoutout to our #1 Nintendo fan K Killer751 for example s.

Shout out to you too! I've tried to dial it back a little following the banning. I definitely don't want to come off as disrespectful to the other users here.

Hopefully we can all get along and play video games together.

 

[Deleted member 738976]

Shout out to you too! I've tried to dial it back a little following the banning. I definitely don't want to come off as disrespectful to the other users here.

Hopefully we can all get along and play video games together.

Bullshit you're not fooling anyone. Why you get a free pass to continue doing your console war trash is beyond me. Only now instead of making your own containment threads for your anti-Nintendo console war shit you're spreading your garbage everywhere.

 

[120v]

seems to be going good all things considered. at the very least i like that you can actually have a conversation and not be drowned out by like 1000 other people.

and i like you can "let your hair down" now but on the same token i feel some have taken that as blessing to go whole hog on the anti-SJW/GG/alt right/whatever stuff. it kind of went to one extreme to another but hopefully that'll work itself out in time

 

[Chairman Tickles]

Online it's the attempt of denigrating that persons opinion to the point where you can ignore it.

Yes, I'm claiming that our online back and forth has devolved to the point where we see Nazi and Cuck are the same level of insult. Then people like you use the historical context as a trump card.

1. Sure on the first point, such childish terms only serve as ad hominems; except labeling somebody a snowflake or a cuck does not predispose them to then be punched in the head or be physically assaulted. Different levels of character assassination entirely. The first two are childish terms, the nazi label is dangerous on today's ultra-leftist streets.

2. On the second point, I veer toward using terms according to what they actually mean in the contemporary context, yes. It makes conversations more meaningful. Nazi even in the media skewed contemporary context does not mean somebody that doesn't vote Democrat. In fact, those being called nazis today are closest ideologically to the millions of men and boys from the west that died fighting the actual nazis. It's complete revisionist nonsense.

 

[5secondrulesucks]

if i am here all is well. i am like this forums step dad. the cool step dad

 

[Elfstar]

Hi, i'm more of a glorified lurker than an actual poster, but i'll try to improve my contribuition to this place since it's starting to look way better than it used to be.

Yes, traffic is slow, especially on the gaming side, but at least it means we can have more meaningful, quality discussions, without all the stupid mass dogpilings and the one-liner, low quality shitposts. Kinda.

Also, it's true, this place is way more right-leaning now, it actually looks like a r/KotakuInAction official forum (fine by me, since it's a very civil subreddit, unlike old Gaf and the other place), and we get some occasional /v/ and /pol/ shitposter tossing around their dumb buzzwords, but still it's so great to finally have a reasonable, rational moderation that allows people to actually speak their mind instead of acting like a crazy, dystopian thought police.
I've also noticed there are a bunch of posters that are here only to try to stir shit and to troll, because they desperately want to frame this place as a neo-nazi comunity and to show to their like-minded friends that they're fighting the good fight, and it's sad because it really shows how much these people are accustomed to just silencing other opinions and living their childish "good vs evil" delusions.

It's also true that having people costantly posting about Era might not be much healty for this comunity, but i can understand how much people might need to vent about it since how laughably unbearable and oppressive that place is, so to concede everyone a couple of containment threads it's the right choice in my opinion.

Also the separated Politics board it's a great thing, and i've always advocated for it since long time ago, in spite of all those crazy "EVERYTHING IS POLITICS" folks.

In the end of the day, i like how this place has become, i just wish there was some more activity on the gaming board (just a little bit).

 

[5secondrulesucks]

Also, it's true, this place is way more right-leaning now.

its really funny when people say this. because they actually have no idea what 'right leaning' or 'right wing' actually means. i mean i have a few expletives to describe people who come in knowing just some shallow 'OH YOURE RIGHT WING HUH'

next time bud. try to not say the default garbage everyone says and have a complete thought on your own. youre entire post is like a summary of someone writing an article about forums or some kind of internet culture.

 

[Dice]

I did recently get a bit of the opposite end of politically-based backlash when I disagreed with how RDR2 incorporated rape into the game very flippantly. Many assumed I was SJW/snowflake/whatever advocating censorship rather than wanting to discuss the nature of what makes something in good taste or not, so they kept yelling at me about how it’s rated M and the content should be allowed rather than engaging or seemingly even comprehending my point.

However frustrating that may be, it is a lot better than worrying that anything phrased slightly “wrong” would get me banned. We do seem to have a decent variety of posters here and the freedom to address various topics from many different angles. I appreciate that as my views are often rather outside the popular polarization and nuanced, so backlash I get is most often over people’s interpretations rather than my actual words. There is nothing more frustrating to get banned over than that.

 

[Halfman The Imp]

It's a very nice place to be, now that NeoGAF registration is open and it has a more international quorum

 

[5secondrulesucks]

I did recently get a bit of the opposite end of politically-based backlash when I disagreed with how RDR2 incorporated rape into the game very flippantly. Many assumed I was SJW/snowflake/whatever advocating censorship rather than wanting to discuss the nature of what makes something in good taste or not, so they kept yelling at me about how it’s rated M and the content should be allowed rather than engaging or seemingly even comprehending my point.

However frustrating that may be, it is a lot better than worrying that anything phrased slightly “wrong” would get me banned. We do seem to have a decent variety of posters here and the freedom to address various topics from many different angles. I appreciate that as my views are often rather outside the popular polarization and nuanced, so backlash I get is most often over people’s interpretations rather than my actual words. There is nothing more frustrating to get banned over than that.

eh i saw that back and forth and i dont think it was so much political as much as what is in games already. if anything you probably had the most 'politcal' stance

 

[Dice]

eh i saw that back and forth and i dont think it was so much political as much as what is in games already. if anything you probably had the most 'politcal' stance

That’s what I mean. It was interpreted as being political simply for wanting the game to be thoughtful of the topic or considerate of the audience in any manner at all. Freedom to make content is one thing, but then you can ask what the point of making that content was, what it is bringing to others lives and if it is worth presenting to their mind. It’s a basic concept for absorbing and evaluating the quality of any artistic work. However, it seemed my dissenters only view games as existing for cheap thrills and ignored all the ways the game presents other things in a more thoughtful manner, so I gathered it wasn’t so much an art-appreciation crowd.

It would have been easier if they simply said “I don’t see games as that meaningful or important to worry about” rather than assuming I had a political agenda for censorship, but I guess such is what modern society has become with all the polarization and enmity, particularly in the last decade.

 

[5secondrulesucks]

That’s what I mean. It was interpreted as being political simply for wanting the game to be thoughtful of the topic or considerate of the audience in any manner at all. Freedom to make content is one thing, but then you can ask what the point of making that content was, what it is bringing to others lives and if it is worth presenting to their mind. It’s a basic concept for absorbing and evaluating the quality of any artistic work. However, it seemed my dissenters only view games as existing for cheap thrills and ignored all the ways the game presents other things in a more thoughtful manner, so I gathered it wasn’t so much an art-appreciation crowd.

It would have been easier if they simply said “I don’t see games as that meaningful or important to worry about” rather than assuming I had a political agenda for censorship, but I guess such is what modern society has become with all the polarization and enmity, particularly in the last decade.

yeah but you got to realize that once you start talking about shit like that its gonna be 'political' immediately. you cant try and take the morality of a certain aspect and ignore everything else or even ask everyone to ignore everything else. "why is x in this game" "well why is y in then game". its always and will always be the next logical conclusion and IF you want to say well this shouldnt be in there you have to have an answer in why something else considered worst or at least as bad considered okay

and yes i do get it it plays a part of the gameplay or the story, but if this shit didnt would it still be okay

 

[Hypnosekroete]

Better than before but slower and much better than the other unbearable place.