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So endgame has come and gone, and we know how things ended. Cap, Ironman and black widow are done. Hulk is fucked up, Thor has zero focus, the guardians are headed to look for the now missing Gamora, Sam is Captain America, and the other characters are sort of in the wind. We know a few should be getting movies in the next phase (captain marvel, black panther, spiderman, Dr. Strange, and hopefully antman/wasp) and some need massive character development to pay off post Endgame (Bucky, Captain Sam, Wanda, ect). Also, there are a few loose ends to tie up and the x-men and F4 IPs need to be integrated into the MCU (mostly for bad guys honestly) in a way that makes some sort of sense.
So this thread is for us to post our ideas and discuss them. Please refrain from lazy "MCU is doomed because of SJW shit" posts. I too am irked by some of the cringey woke shit in the latest movies but I would love to discuss things in a more positive light.
Anyways here is how I would do the next phases.
Note: Basically every movie leading up to the next avengers will either hint that the "undusting" awoke mutant powers in some people, or directly have mutants in them. Also, we are going to be dealing with merging 3 timelines here; the MCU timeline (TL1), the splinter timeline where thanos left in endgame(TL2), and the Fox timeline (TL3).
The following are not every movie but just the ones I think are important in setting up the post endgame phases. They are in chronological order.
MCU Timeline
- Captain Marvel Echos (or some subtitle): This movie would be a "buddy cop" affair where Bucky and Captain Sam are looking into the Weapon X program that has been running in the background the whole time. A newly cast Bone claw wolverine, who got his healing and claws power from the undusting, would be one of the bad guys working for weapon x in this movie. By the end of the movie wolverine turns on the program for his own reasons and sort of helps Captain Sam and Bucky take down the big bad. Wolverine is captured by the program at the very end though and forced to go through the adamantium process.
- Wolverine (insert subtitle here): In this movie Wolverine escapes from Weapon X with the help of another Mutant who can mysteriously speak to him through his mind. Wolvie eventually meets up with this mutant and we find out it is a newly powered up Professor Xavier played by James McAvoy. The two go through the movie together only to part after beating the bad dudes. Wolvie leaves to follow a lead, and professor X leaves to find more mutants.
- Avengers (Some bullshit here): This movie will heavily involve Wolverine, Wanda, Ant man and Wasp, but Captain Sam, War Machine and Bucky will also be present. Thor will not be in this movie and hulk will only show up towards the end. Basically Wolverine brings information of a dangerous mutuant (Stryfe?) that is fucking shit up. The Avengers have to stop this "Force" together despite a schism in the power vacuum Steve and Tony left. We find out that Wanda was the first mutant created before the undusting and that all mutants carry the same gene mutation.
Fox Timeline and TL2
-Marvel Obliteration: This will be a sort of weird, loose, retelling of the House of M. The movie starts out in TL2 with Reed Richards and the rest of the fantastic 4 gearing up to escape some universe wide apocalypse. To do this they use one of Reeds creations and jump into the Fox timeline just before TL2 is destroyed. In the FOX timeline Scarlet Witch, played by the same actress from the MCU, has become corrupted by Mr. Sinister and is starting to lose it. The Fantastic 4(F4) recognize this and go looking for whomever they can to help them stop her. They find Xavier and the X-Men and explain to them that in their timeline Wanda went crazy and destroyed reality. Quicksilver tells the crew he has lost contact with his sister and fears something may be wrong with her. This sparks the whole adventure to stop Mr. Sinister and hopefully save Wanda. Through out the movie hints are dropped that in every timeline where Wanda isn't dusted, she goes crazy due to the pain of Vision's loss permeating dimensions. These Wanda's can't handle this and destroy their timeline (this is a way of universe course correction due to consequences of using infinity stones or changing timelines). In the final confrontation professor x is killed attempting to enter Wanda's mind and the combined group fail to "save" her. At the last moment Quicksilver gets through to her and before destroying him, herself and the rest of the Fox Timeline she sends the X-Men and the F4 to the MCU timeline where none of them exist. The Characters that now enter the MCU are Cyclops, Beast, Magneto (Fassbender!), Psylocke, Storm, Jubilee, Reed Richards, Sue Richards, Johnny Storm, and Benjamin Grim. End of credits scene is all of them showing up at Professor X's manor to find the MCU version of him working with students along with a very alive Jean Grey (assuming she dies at the end of Dark Phoenix), rogue and colossus.
-Fox and Timeline 2 are now done. Magneto is completely disillusioned at this point after losing both his mutant children and follows his bad guy "mutants must rule humans" arc.
MCU Timeline
-Avengers Vs Xmen: The basics of this movie are the transplanted Xmen and F4 are trying to take out the MCU's version of Wanda because they believe she is going to destroy this universe as well. But, MCU wanda is stable and the two clash multiple times before a bigger threat (silver surfer?) causes them to band together. This will be the start of the next "Big Bad" like Thanos (Galactus maybe?). Thor will play a major role in this movie, as well as Black Panther and Hulk (Hulk vs Grim and Beast)
After Avengers vs Xmen: Most of the character holes are filled and there is a great mind (Reed Richards) to replace the loss of tony stark that Banner alone couldn't fill. Loki returns along with the introduction to Dr. Doom and other villains to fill out the rogues gallery.
Thoughts? Your ideas?
So this thread is for us to post our ideas and discuss them. Please refrain from lazy "MCU is doomed because of SJW shit" posts. I too am irked by some of the cringey woke shit in the latest movies but I would love to discuss things in a more positive light.
Anyways here is how I would do the next phases.
Note: Basically every movie leading up to the next avengers will either hint that the "undusting" awoke mutant powers in some people, or directly have mutants in them. Also, we are going to be dealing with merging 3 timelines here; the MCU timeline (TL1), the splinter timeline where thanos left in endgame(TL2), and the Fox timeline (TL3).
The following are not every movie but just the ones I think are important in setting up the post endgame phases. They are in chronological order.
MCU Timeline
- Captain Marvel Echos (or some subtitle): This movie would be a "buddy cop" affair where Bucky and Captain Sam are looking into the Weapon X program that has been running in the background the whole time. A newly cast Bone claw wolverine, who got his healing and claws power from the undusting, would be one of the bad guys working for weapon x in this movie. By the end of the movie wolverine turns on the program for his own reasons and sort of helps Captain Sam and Bucky take down the big bad. Wolverine is captured by the program at the very end though and forced to go through the adamantium process.
- Wolverine (insert subtitle here): In this movie Wolverine escapes from Weapon X with the help of another Mutant who can mysteriously speak to him through his mind. Wolvie eventually meets up with this mutant and we find out it is a newly powered up Professor Xavier played by James McAvoy. The two go through the movie together only to part after beating the bad dudes. Wolvie leaves to follow a lead, and professor X leaves to find more mutants.
- Avengers (Some bullshit here): This movie will heavily involve Wolverine, Wanda, Ant man and Wasp, but Captain Sam, War Machine and Bucky will also be present. Thor will not be in this movie and hulk will only show up towards the end. Basically Wolverine brings information of a dangerous mutuant (Stryfe?) that is fucking shit up. The Avengers have to stop this "Force" together despite a schism in the power vacuum Steve and Tony left. We find out that Wanda was the first mutant created before the undusting and that all mutants carry the same gene mutation.
Fox Timeline and TL2
-Marvel Obliteration: This will be a sort of weird, loose, retelling of the House of M. The movie starts out in TL2 with Reed Richards and the rest of the fantastic 4 gearing up to escape some universe wide apocalypse. To do this they use one of Reeds creations and jump into the Fox timeline just before TL2 is destroyed. In the FOX timeline Scarlet Witch, played by the same actress from the MCU, has become corrupted by Mr. Sinister and is starting to lose it. The Fantastic 4(F4) recognize this and go looking for whomever they can to help them stop her. They find Xavier and the X-Men and explain to them that in their timeline Wanda went crazy and destroyed reality. Quicksilver tells the crew he has lost contact with his sister and fears something may be wrong with her. This sparks the whole adventure to stop Mr. Sinister and hopefully save Wanda. Through out the movie hints are dropped that in every timeline where Wanda isn't dusted, she goes crazy due to the pain of Vision's loss permeating dimensions. These Wanda's can't handle this and destroy their timeline (this is a way of universe course correction due to consequences of using infinity stones or changing timelines). In the final confrontation professor x is killed attempting to enter Wanda's mind and the combined group fail to "save" her. At the last moment Quicksilver gets through to her and before destroying him, herself and the rest of the Fox Timeline she sends the X-Men and the F4 to the MCU timeline where none of them exist. The Characters that now enter the MCU are Cyclops, Beast, Magneto (Fassbender!), Psylocke, Storm, Jubilee, Reed Richards, Sue Richards, Johnny Storm, and Benjamin Grim. End of credits scene is all of them showing up at Professor X's manor to find the MCU version of him working with students along with a very alive Jean Grey (assuming she dies at the end of Dark Phoenix), rogue and colossus.
-Fox and Timeline 2 are now done. Magneto is completely disillusioned at this point after losing both his mutant children and follows his bad guy "mutants must rule humans" arc.
MCU Timeline
-Avengers Vs Xmen: The basics of this movie are the transplanted Xmen and F4 are trying to take out the MCU's version of Wanda because they believe she is going to destroy this universe as well. But, MCU wanda is stable and the two clash multiple times before a bigger threat (silver surfer?) causes them to band together. This will be the start of the next "Big Bad" like Thanos (Galactus maybe?). Thor will play a major role in this movie, as well as Black Panther and Hulk (Hulk vs Grim and Beast)
After Avengers vs Xmen: Most of the character holes are filled and there is a great mind (Reed Richards) to replace the loss of tony stark that Banner alone couldn't fill. Loki returns along with the introduction to Dr. Doom and other villains to fill out the rogues gallery.
Thoughts? Your ideas?
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