Where Ya Curly Mustaches At?! Marvel vs Capcom 3 Hype Thread of Scoops!

MoxManiac said:
It splinters the userbase, and complicates things at tournaments. SF4's locked saves combined with characters needing to be unlocked first was already a major headache for this, I can only imagine offering something as drastic gameplaywise as new character DLC would be even worse.

It's why MvC2 PSN/XBLA came with everything unlocked, and why SSF4 has all characters unlocked from the start.
if capcom wanted to simplify things for tournaments, why did they reuse the shitty kind of button config in SSFIV?
 
MoxManiac said:
It splinters the userbase, and complicates things at tournaments. SF4's locked saves combined with characters needing to be unlocked first was already a major headache for this, I can only imagine offering something as drastic gameplaywise as new character DLC would be even worse.

It's why MvC2 PSN/XBLA came with everything unlocked, and why SSF4 has all characters unlocked from the start.

There's no arcade edition for this, it's console only- no arcade release. I'm also of the opinion this is aimed at casuals and not the tournament crowd, though this is debatable.

From a purely financial standpoint, what brings in more money for capcom? the convenience of tournament play for a minority of the userbase? or DLC for the mass market? The answer for this should be obvious, and at the end of the day the bottom line is what's going to make the final call for Disney/Capcom.
 
neorej said:
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HELL YEAH!

:lol I need to read some Deadpool comics or comics with Deadpool in them. This guy seems hilarious.
 
GalacticAE said:
Any serious fighting game isn't going to make players pay to unlock more characters. New characters will most likely be added in subsequent revisions like they always have. Even if Capcom did it in RE5...

I think we are in the age of DLC where the demand for new stuff that people are willing to pay for makes it worth the risk.Capcom had success with selling just DLC costume keys to do it again so I think the next step is to include character DLC,especially if they want to expand the life of fighters even longer without having to do a full packaged game revision.
 
The operable phrase here is "splinter the userbase." It'd be nice to be able to go online and play a random person and not have to worry if they have the same DLC as you.
 
_dementia said:
if capcom wanted to simplify things for tournaments, why did they reuse the shitty kind of button config in SSFIV?

Capcom jp likes to pretend HD Remix and MvC2 PSN/XBLA don't exist, apparently. I don't know why either.
 
Why are some of you fighting this whole DLC thing? Because 30+ characters aren't enough? Other than Soul Calibur, I don't remember any game series adding actual -other- characters to the roster. While it may look good at a financial standpoint for Marvel/CapGod/Disney/whatever, can't you guys just deal with the roster size for what it is? I'm sure there are still some hidden gems in the roster yet to be revealed either way...
 
Caj814 said:
I think we are in the age of DLC where the demand for new stuff that people are willing to pay for makes it worth the risk.Capcom had success with selling just DLC costumes to do it again so I think the next step is to include character DLC,especially if they want to expand the life of fighters even longer without having to do a full packaged game revision.

Why not just do a full package game revision and get more money?

I mean, I don't understand why people are finding the idea of DLC characters desirable. No respectable fighting game has DLC characters.

This will not be a casual play title. Casual play titles are things like Rise of the Imperfects. They're shit. Capcom knows what they're doing when it comes to fighters. Will it be accessible? Sure. Will people be able to do cool/flashy shit while mashing on buttons? Absolutely. That doesn't make it a casual title.
 
spindashing said:
:lol I need to read some Deadpool comics or comics with Deadpool in them. This guy seems hilarious.
If you want to read some Deadpool, I recommend reading the current "vanilla" Deadpool series right now. They just finished an arc with Spider-Man. I would also recommend the Deadpool Classic vol. 1 trade, Deadpool vs. the Marvel Universe trade, and the Deadpool Suicide Kings trade. There are a lot more good stuff, but those are the essentials. Especially Deadpool Classic 1, if you want to see his origins.
 
GuardianE said:
Why not just do a full package game revision and get more money?

I mean, I don't understand why people are finding the idea of DLC characters desirable. No respectable fighting game has DLC characters.

Cheaper to make,wouldn't need as much man power to get done,and faster to be released.If any of the interviews with Ono mean anything,within a year and a half we'll probably see character pack DLC for SSF4 for a worthwhile price that everyone will be getting hyped over.:lol
 
MoxManiac said:
Capcom jp likes to pretend HD Remix and MvC2 PSN/XBLA don't exist, apparently. I don't know why either.
Dude, forget HDR and MvC2 '09. Fucking Alpha 2 has the good kind of button config. A 1996 PS1 and Saturn port!
 
Jet Grind Radio! said:
The operable phrase here is "splinter the userbase." It'd be nice to be able to go online and play a random person and not have to worry if they have the same DLC as you.

Can't they just patch so everybody downloads the characters via updates, and you can fight against them online but not use them without paying for an unlock?
 
spindashing said:
:lol I need to read some Deadpool comics or comics with Deadpool in them. This guy seems hilarious.
He's insanely popular right now. You can find him everywhere. I never got into Deadpool
 
Jet Grind Radio! said:
If you want to read some Deadpool, I recommend reading the current "vanilla" Deadpool series right now. They just finished an arc with Spider-Man. I would also recommend the Deadpool Classic vol. 1 trade, Deadpool vs. the Marvel Universe trade, and the Deadpool Suicide Kings trade. There are a lot more good stuff, but those are the essentials. Especially Deadpool Classic 1, if you want to see his origins.

Thanks, dude. I've honestly first heard of Deadpool like a year or two ago from a friend who is an avid Marvel comic book reader. I've never read any of the Marvel comics and the extent of my Marvel knowledge came from the cartoons aired in the 90s (good times). Deadpool's probably shaping up to be my favorite Marvel character, period. :lol
 
spindashing said:
Thanks, dude. I've honestly first heard of Deadpool like a year or two ago from a friend who is an avid Marvel comic book reader. I've never read any of the Marvel comics and the extent of my Marvel knowledge came from the cartoons aired in the 90s (good times). Deadpool's probably shaping up to be my favorite Marvel character, period. :lol
He's basically what got me back into reading comics again. :lol

Hmm, maybe I should make a Deadpool FAQ thread in the OT.
 
erlim said:
Can't they just patch so everybody downloads the characters via updates, and you can fight against them online but not use them without paying for an unlock?

I'm pretty sure this is what most games do that has DLC content like that and multiplayer.
 
GuardianE said:
Why not just do a full package game revision and get more money?

I mean, I don't understand why people are finding the idea of DLC characters desirable.

I could see them going that route (like they did for SSFIV) but without some serious additions to the rest of the core game, it doesn't really make sense to do it that way unless I'm really interested in EVERY character that gets added to the roster. For instance: if I love dudley but hate everyone else being added for SSFIV, I might not decide full price is worth it. Capcom therefore loses out on my money.

from capcom's standpoint, DLC downloads cut out the retailer's portion and makes more profit, as well as accessing those consumers who might pay $5 for one character but not $30 for 6 or 7. using DLC both options are available. (a la carte pricing or as a bundle, that is.)

from the standpoint of the consumer, DLC allows me to ignore and/or not pay for characters I don't care about, and only shell out for the ones I do.
 
Degen said:
Yeah, Soulcalibur 4 did that.
Vader/Yoda were already on the disc. So even if someone didn't buy Yoda/Vader, they could just as easily play anyone online.

erlim said:
Can't they just patch so everybody downloads the characters via updates, and you can fight against them online but not use them without paying for an unlock?
Absolutely, like the Burnout Paradise "patches" on 360. However, you do run the risk of people not downloading them because they aren't proper patches.

Guileless said:
Does anyone sell a Saturn-style six button controller for the HD consoles?
Yes.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001M1Z9ZW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 
Manmademan said:
I could see them going that route (like they did for SSFIV) but without some serious additions to the rest of the core game, it doesn't really make sense to do it that way unless I'm really interested in EVERY character that gets added to the roster. For instance: if I love dudley but hate everyone else being added for SSFIV, I might not decide full price is worth it. Capcom therefore loses out on my money.

from capcom's standpoint, DLC downloads cut out the retailer's portion and makes more profit, as well as accessing those consumers who might pay $5 for one character but not $30 for 6 or 7. using DLC both options are available. (a la carte pricing or as a bundle, that is.)

from the standpoint of the consumer, DLC allows me to ignore and/or not pay for characters I don't care about, and only shell out for the ones I do.

They don't even sell costumes individually, what makes you think they'd have single characters for purchase?
 
Skilletor said:
They don't even sell costumes individually, what makes you think they'd have single characters for purchase?

right now they don't have *anything* available for purchase, so we're just talking what they COULD do, and this is something that's possible.

consider also that a lot of these characters are licensed- disney/marvel may want things priced a certain way to play as popular characters.

I guess we'll see in a year or so.
 
Manmademan said:
:lol :lol

only if it's the 70's disco version with the face paint. I'd buy it at a high price. Fun Fact: there was a black version of Dazzler somewhere

And a goth version, and a madonna version, and a Jem version and a....
 
Nemesis and Tyrant of Resident Evil fame weren't included because they'd be a little too grotesque to get the game in under it's current expected rating.

The Fantastic Four will not be in the game.


That's good with RE since we already have Chris, but that suck for Fantastic Four.
 
Dahbomb said:
Fantastic Four will be sort of covered by Super Skrull.

yeah, I'd much rather have the super skrull than 4 characters from the FF clogging up the roster. Mr fantastic would be fun, but thing and torch are kind of one trick ponies.

edit:

Thanks to bionic re-engineering by Skrull scientists, the Super-Skrull has a version of the Fantastic Four's superhuman abilities at the levels the team possessed when first receiving their powers. These powers include a heightened degree of physical malleability (a trait common to all Skrulls); superhuman strength, stamina, durability, agility, and reflexes; the ability to envelop himself in fiery plasma and to utilize this heat energy for various effects, including flight, formation of fiery shapes, and energy release in the form of heat blasts, "nova flame bursts", and concussive force blasts, the ability to control ambient heat energy in his immediate environment allowing him to take control of flames not of his own generation and to absorb heat from outside sources; and the ability to render himself and others invisible and the creation of invisible force fields. If the current Skrull ruler permits, a satellite can send a broadcast augmentation energy beam that amplifies the Super-Skrull's abilities beyond the Fantastic Four's current levels. Kl'rt possesses the Skrull's innate racial ability to shape-shift, as well as the unique ability to project a potent hypnotic force from his eyes.

I forgot how overpowered he was. no way he's not a "boss" character of some sort
 
Manmademan said:
yeah, I'd much rather have the super skrull than 4 characters from the FF clogging up the roster. Mr fantastic would be fun, but thing and torch are kind of one trick ponies.

edit:

I forgot how overpowered he was. no way he's not a "boss" character of some sort
That's not how MVC works.... :lol

Characters like Thanos/Blackheart despite having god-like powers are regular characters. The boss characters are those who end up taking up the entire screen and have like multiple forms (like Onslaught). Super Skrull will be a regular selectable character... you can bank on that.
 
Dahbomb said:
That's not how MVC works.... :lol

Characters like Thanos/Blackheart despite having god-like powers are regular characters. The boss characters are those who end up taking up the entire screen and have like multiple forms (like Onslaught). Super Skrull will be a regular selectable character... you can bank on that.

Also, see Cammy throwing Juggernaut around with her thighs.
 
Dahbomb said:
That's not how MVC works.... :lol

Characters like Thanos/Blackheart despite having god-like powers are regular characters. The boss characters are those who end up taking up the entire screen and have like multiple forms (like Onslaught). Super Skrull will be a regular selectable character... you can bank on that.

yeah yeah, I know. but given how versatile the character is, they'd almost have to scale him back a bit.

I wonder who the "boss" will be?
 
Wait. How would the Human Torch be a one-trick pony compared to say Iceman? Hell, even the Thing vs. the Hulk are pretty basically similar.

And I don't think in ANY WAY would there be all four characters from the FF.
 
Jet Grind Radio! said:
Wait. How would the Human Torch be a one-trick pony compared to say Iceman? Hell, even the Thing vs. the Hulk are pretty basically similar.

And I don't think in ANY WAY would there be all four characters from the FF.

FIRE BEAM! FIRE BEAM! FIRE BEAM! FIRE BEAM! FIRE BEAM! FIRE BEAM!

INFERNO ATTACK!
 
MVC is so fucking crazy when you think about it for more than 2 seconds....

I mean just look at the MVC3 trailer... Chris a NORMAL HUMAN BEING is squaring off against Hulk who's strength according to Marvel is INFINITE. He is also super fast and can rip Chris in two before he can blink. And yeah... bullets aren't going to do much damage to him either.

This is what makes the franchise so great... you have your regular heroes who are just normal humans with weapons and stuff (Frank West, Chris, Jill) and then you have omnipotent entities who basically can control the cosmos, alter matter and travel dimensions (Shuma Gorath, Thanos etc.). Everyone is brought to an equal playing field... doesn't matter if you can teleport, fly or throw rocks you can kick anyone's ass if you do it right! :lol
 
Dahbomb said:
MVC is so fucking crazy when you think about it for more than 2 seconds....

I mean just look at the MVC3 trailer... Chris a NORMAL HUMAN BEING is squaring off against Hulk who's strength according to Marvel is INFINITE. He is also super fast and can rip Chris in two before he can blink. And yeah... bullets aren't going to do much damage to him either.

This is what makes the franchise so great... you have your regular heroes who are just normal humans with weapons and stuff (Frank West, Chris, Jill) and then you have omnipotent entities who basically can control the cosmos, alter matter and travel dimensions (Shuma Gorath, Thanos etc.). Everyone is brought to an equal playing field... doesn't matter if you can teleport, fly or throw rocks you can kick anyone's ass if you do it right! :lol

That's why I can't wait to take on Galactus's foot with Dan in this this game.
 
Dahbomb said:
MVC is so fucking crazy when you think about it for more than 2 seconds....

I mean just look at the MVC3 trailer... Chris a NORMAL HUMAN BEING is squaring off against Hulk who's strength according to Marvel is INFINITE. He is also super fast and can rip Chris in two before he can blink. And yeah... bullets aren't going to do much damage to him either.

This is what makes the franchise so great... you have your regular heroes who are just normal humans with weapons and stuff (Frank West, Chris, Jill) and then you have omnipotent entities who basically can control the cosmos, alter matter and travel dimensions (Shuma Gorath, Thanos etc.). Everyone is brought to an equal playing field... doesn't matter if you can teleport, fly or throw rocks you can kick anyone's ass if you do it right! :lol
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