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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Honestly, for young people without nostalgia I could see it being someone's favorite. It's objectively a very good, creative movie.
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Which was the best Terminator movie?
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Tuff McNutt
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I love the first movie. Me and a friend did yard work for people for a whole summer so we could buy the VHS (which were like $100 back then).
But I voted for T2. Absolutely a top 5 movie for me. I saw it at least 10 times in the theatre - and seeing the 3D rerelease a few years ago in the theatre was incredible.
But I voted for T2. Absolutely a top 5 movie for me. I saw it at least 10 times in the theatre - and seeing the 3D rerelease a few years ago in the theatre was incredible.
gioGAF
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T1 is still the best for me. T2 is really good, but ultimately it is a higher budget retread of the first movie.
Linda Hamilton was great in T1 and T2, great progression. However, one of the best characters from T1 is gone in T2. I know it is part of the story, but it doesn't lessen the blow to overall quality. Michael Biehn is super underrated in my opinion.
While I enjoy Edward Furlong's portrayal of John Connor in T2, it is more of a guilty pleasure than a stellar performance. A goofball child actor replaces the hardened soldier from the future when going from T1 to T2. Not the best tradeoff.
Linda Hamilton was great in T1 and T2, great progression. However, one of the best characters from T1 is gone in T2. I know it is part of the story, but it doesn't lessen the blow to overall quality. Michael Biehn is super underrated in my opinion.
While I enjoy Edward Furlong's portrayal of John Connor in T2, it is more of a guilty pleasure than a stellar performance. A goofball child actor replaces the hardened soldier from the future when going from T1 to T2. Not the best tradeoff.
Dee Dah Dave
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1 and 2 are very different films from each other so you can’t compare them equally imo.
wecantrepeat
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2. I love it. Always will be the best tone IMO
pramod
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I have mixed feelings about T3. I love how it set up John as the hero of the resistance and showed us the birth of Skynet. But everything else was just rehash of 1 and 2. If it was possible I wish they would redo the movie but without Terminators. Just have it focus on John in the present trying to stop judgment day.
FatallyYours
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Can a poll be taken seriously without a "Thor: The Dark World" option?
Dr.Morris79
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Just incase you need some Arnold comedy gold for Christmas
FatallyYours
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PuppetMaster
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lol at there being more than 2 options.
To everyone with fine taste who voted The Terminator.
But I should add that T2 is the only one I have actually seen in the theater. And it is incredible as a theater movie. That sound. That music. Plus the cinematography. It is all very very good.
T1 is still the better film. Just more original, authentic, plausible, and more human. A work of pure genius.
To everyone with fine taste who voted The Terminator.
But I should add that T2 is the only one I have actually seen in the theater. And it is incredible as a theater movie. That sound. That music. Plus the cinematography. It is all very very good.
T1 is still the better film. Just more original, authentic, plausible, and more human. A work of pure genius.
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StreetsofBeige
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JayK47
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I still prefer the original. The second one was pretty cool and had amazing affects for the time, but I also was somewhat annoyed by John Connor. having watched both movies so many times, I have a lot of little nitpicks with the second one, like in one scene the truck window falls out and in the next scene he pushes it out.
Cockles & Whelks
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I would say to anyone give Terminator 3 another chance. By today's awful action movies standards it's Citizen Kane.
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Dr.Morris79
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Aye, I watched it again a couple of weeks back, wasnt bad at all.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Terminator 1 is a better horror movie. Terminator 2 is a better movie.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Yeah, it's awsome. I remember I saw it at the cinema when I was eleven, me old man took me to the cinema in Newquay to see it, I bloody loved it.
Bonfires Down
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Having seen the first not too long age I found it kind of silly. 2 at least isn’t afraid to embrace the comedy and sillyness and that’s my vote, but I remember enjoying 3 a lot too.
LoneWolf&Subs
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1, and 2 are so simpatico that it’s hard to choose between the two. Both have similar strengths and weaknesses. The most notable of these are that both have great introductions, and table settings. The weakness of each lies with the way they drag in the middle before the finale kicks in. That’s because both films are made with almost the same exact bones. But outside of the obvious advantages, where T-2 really edges out Terminator is due to (what is now considered Cameron’s signature) epic final act structure. It just builds, and builds, and builds until the heroes ultimate triumph. Jimbo just continues to nail this to this day since T-2.
LoneWolf&Subs
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Simple… They lack the craftsmanship of the first two.
Nobody was able to do more, or better with the property. They basically couldn’t do what Cameron did with the Alien property.
Doom85
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Yes, but you are neglecting to mention one awesome addition T2 had:
While I can understand if people prefer Arnold as the antagonist, I personally found Robert Patrick to be more intimidating. Because whereas Arnold kinda sticks out in a crowd, Robert fits in more naturally, and the T-1000 has a better handling of coming off as human in the way it spoke to unsuspecting civilians. And then of course you add its insane abilities to the equation.
Yes, but you are neglecting to mention one awesome addition T2 had:
While I can understand if people prefer Arnold as the antagonist, I personally found Robert Patrick to be more intimidating. Because whereas Arnold kinda sticks out in a crowd, Robert fits in more naturally, and the T-1000 has a better handling of coming off as human in the way it spoke to unsuspecting civilians. And then of course you add its insane abilities to the equation.
Can you imagine how the first film would be if they had stuck with Lance Henriksen playing the terminator?
Doom85
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Hard for me to think of him as a bad robot since when I think Henriksen and robot I just automatically think of Bishop.
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Ulysses 31
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Yeah but it also kinda undermines Skynet, how does it lose to humans when they have things like the T1000 on their side in addition to all their other weaponry.Yes, but you are neglecting to mention one awesome addition T2 had:
While I can understand if people prefer Arnold as the antagonist, I personally found Robert Patrick to be more intimidating. Because whereas Arnold kinda sticks out in a crowd, Robert fits in more naturally, and the T-1000 has a better handling of coming off as human in the way it spoke to unsuspecting civilians. And then of course you add its insane abilities to the equation.
Doom85
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We don’t know exactly when Skynet started developing T-1000s IIRC. If it was near the end of the war, it might have been too late to make a difference. Besides, we already knew from the first movie that Skynet loses ultimately, so it‘s less undermining it and more showing just how impressive the human resistance under John’s leadership actually was.
DragoonKain
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I think 3 is underrated. It’s not nearly as good as the first two, but some people think 3 is the worst and I think it’s the 3rd best. I liked the ending of it even though I guess it’s no longer canon anymore after Dark Fate. I found Salvation the worst it was just so boring.
Ulysses 31
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I think the need to know how John Conner turned the war around beyond the "storm the wire of the camps" line increases each time a more powerful Terminator is introduced each movie.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Generally they're just not as good as the first two. Which isn't really fair criticism, because those are two of the best movies ever made.
Except the one with Christian Bale, which was an awful piece of shit.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Terminator 3, Gynnississyysysinesinsnssenessssyssys and Dark Fate are three different timelines. The cool thing about time based plots is that different versions can be canon. And that even assumes there is a canon, which there doesn't have to be.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Skynet only had 1 T-1000, it was the most advanced thing it had and it sent it back because it thought that was the best use of the tool. Its other assets were things like giant tank robots and nuclear weapons, it had more and better tools to work on a large scale than a small scale. Its boots on the ground were robots with laser guns, which humans could hide from. As described in the first movie, infiltration of human communities was a weak point for it. T-1000 was impressive, but if Skynet only had the resources for 1, how much of a boon is that really? How long did it take to design morphing metal? How much metal suitable for that task could it even make?
Just because Skynet has theoretical technologies it could design doesn't mean that it could build or use them. It still exists on Earth (and maybe further out in the solar system, that's never been discussed to my knowledge,) it still has to deal with gathering materials, testing new ideas, figuring out which technologies it can use practically, and getting the resources it needs in place where it can use them. It still had to deal with logistics.
Ulysses 31
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If it's not in the movie then it's not entering into consideration.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
My recollection is that Arnold describes it as a prototype, meaning they're not in production. There is only 1 T-1000.
Ulysses 31
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True but IMO it's still quite a leap to assume that there was only ever one deployed and at a time it wouldn't affect the outcome of the war anymore.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Assuming there's more than one, they're still prototypes. It doesn't have a lot of them, nothing is to say any others it has are as effective as the one it sends back, and it still has to handle logistics. And, as Reese described, the war was over. Skynet lost, and that's why it sent Terminators back. Sending them back is a hail mary, Skynet is throwing everything it can at the problem of having already lost.
So my statement still stands, Skynet is doing all it can with the tools it has. Would T-1000s scare humans? Yeah. But it still lost, so what does it matter how scary it is?
Sidney Prescott
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You can't go wrong with T1 or T2, but I'm more likely to watch the latter. It's just very action packed and suits me more.
Ulysses 31
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Each time a Terminator was sent back the timeline changed so the Skynet that sent the T-1000 is not the same one that sent back the T-800. Reese's info may not be accurate anymore.(Remember that the theme of the first 2 movies is that the future is not set. The later movies changed it to its detriment.)
You have a point that if Skynet was winning, why would they send back a Terminator.
Though there's still room for doubt about that: we see the T-800 arrive first and then the T-1000. Maybe in this future Skynet starts winning again and the resistance initiated the first time travel back when they sent the Terminator.
A line from John asking the T-800 how they dealt with the T-1000 in the future would've cleared up a lot of things.
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Trogdor1123
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It is obvious, I’d remove the big two and then see what is good from what is left. I liked the one with bale
GoldenEye Samurai
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Terminator 2: Judgment Day was the best with the original coming in second place IMHO.
BLAUcopter
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Cyberpunkd
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First for the gritty night shots. Don’t forget this is 80s, where there was a fuckton of crime in the US (NYC was like a no-go zone after dark). Second one for masterful world building.
GoldenEye Samurai
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I always enjoyed the horror tone and atmosphere of the first film.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
They pretty much get start at the Apex, not much between the first two.
The most recent one is the best of 4,5,6, imo.
I'd probably place them like this:
Best
1&2
Watchable
3&6
Fans only
4&5
The most recent one is the best of 4,5,6, imo.
I'd probably place them like this:
Best
1&2
Watchable
3&6
Fans only
4&5
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