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White House orders purge of the CIA, McCain calls them "rogue agency"

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Ripclawe

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Different sources, but basically the gist is, clean the place out by any means necessary.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...4,0,4055608,print.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

WASHINGTON -- The White House has ordered the new CIA director, Porter Goss, to purge the agency of officers believed to have been disloyal to President George W. Bush or of leaking damaging information to the media about the conduct of the Iraq war and the hunt for Osama bin Laden, according to knowledgeable sources.

"The agency is being purged on instructions from the White House," said a former senior CIA official who maintains close ties to both the agency and to the White House. "Goss was given instructions ... to get rid of those soft leakers and liberal Democrats. The CIA is looked on by the White House as a hotbed of liberals and people who have been obstructing the president's agenda."

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9990739.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

By Warren P. Strobel and Jonathan S. Landay Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - Porter Goss' initial moves as CIA director appear to herald a post-election purge at the already troubled spy agency, according to current and former top U.S. intelligence officials.

Goss, a former Republican congressman, has put at least four former Capitol Hill Republican staffers into top positions in his CIA office and has given them broad authority to make personnel and restructuring decisions, the current and former intelligence officials said.

One of the aides, whose identity Knight Ridder is not disclosing because he served under cover, has been "going around telling people they are to fire 80 to 90 people" in the Directorate of Operations, the CIA's covert arm, according to a former official.

His account was repeated by several knowledgeable current and former officials who maintain close ties to the agency.

Tensions between an incoming CIA director and the agency's veterans, particularly in the Directorate of Operations, are common, as they are in any large institution resistant to change.

Most observers agree the CIA, along with the rest of the U.S. intelligence community, is in need of reform. A Senate Intelligence Committee report issued in July found the CIA's prewar assessment that Iraq had hidden weapons of mass destruction programs was exaggerated, lacked evidence and was driven by "group think."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...ia15.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/11/15/ixworld.html

Senator John McCain backed his Republican colleague last night, praising Mr Goss's campaign to improve the CIA's performance against terrorism and denouncing the agency as in need of reform.

"This kind of shake-up is absolutely necessary," the influential Arizona congressman said.

"This is a dysfunctional agency and in some ways a rogue agency."
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
WASHINGTON -- The White House has ordered the new CIA director, Porter Goss, to purge the agency of officers believed to have been disloyal to President George W. Bush or of leaking damaging information to the media about the conduct of the Iraq war and the hunt for Osama bin Laden, according to knowledgeable sources.

"The agency is being purged on instructions from the White House," said a former senior CIA official who maintains close ties to both the agency and to the White House. "Goss was given instructions ... to get rid of those soft leakers and liberal Democrats. The CIA is looked on by the White House as a hotbed of liberals and people who have been obstructing the president's agenda."

The President's "agenda" should be to let the CIA do their job and not let politics could his view so much to the point that if you're a registered Democrat working for the government, you're simply not welcome.
 

Boogie

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WASHINGTON -- The White House has ordered the new CIA director, Porter Goss, to purge the agency of officers believed to have been disloyal to President George W. Bush or of leaking damaging information to the media about the conduct of the Iraq war and the hunt for Osama bin Laden, according to knowledgeable sources.

"The agency is being purged on instructions from the White House," said a former senior CIA official who maintains close ties to both the agency and to the White House. "Goss was given instructions ... to get rid of those soft leakers and liberal Democrats. The CIA is looked on by the White House as a hotbed of liberals and people who have been obstructing the president's agenda."

Okay, this one scares me. I'm in agreement with xsarien here.
 

ShadowRed

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This is fucking crazy. first the Bush administartion either bullies the CIA into coming up with half assed evidence tht says Iraq had WMD or out right cherry picked the evidence to justify the attack. Now Bush uses the fact that they didn't fine WMD against the CIA to purge the organiztaion of "liberals." This is getting to be fucked up. Now you have a mostly Republican military, House and Senate, possibly Supreme Courts and soon to be CIA. Can anyone say what's his faces name.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
ShadowRed said:
This is fucking crazy. first the Bush administartion either bullies the CIA into coming up with half assed evidence tht says Iraq had WMD or out right cherry picked the evidence to justify the attack. Now Bush uses the fact that they didn't fine WMD against the CIA to purge the organiztaion of "liberals." This is getting to be fucked up. Now you have a mostly Republican military, House and Senate, possibly Supreme Courts and soon to be CIA. Can anyone say what's his faces name.

The silver lining is that when the shit hits the fan, they can't blame any Democrats.
 

ShadowRed

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xsarien said:
The silver lining is that when the shit hits the fan, they can't blame any Democrats.




Don't be too sure about that. Remember that there are 60 million people in this country who if Bush got on TV and sacrified babies would claim that it was a "liburl" trick and that Bush Christ is too honorable a man to do such a thing.
 
Doublethink is beautiful in action: CIA exaggerates evidence of WMD so a shake-up is needed. Anwser, fire the "liberal" democrats who were disloyal, were these the folks doing the exaggerating? I had no idea the "Office of Special Plans" was full of donkeys.
 

Belfast

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ShadowRed said:
This is fucking crazy. first the Bush administartion either bullies the CIA into coming up with half assed evidence tht says Iraq had WMD or out right cherry picked the evidence to justify the attack. Now Bush uses the fact that they didn't fine WMD against the CIA to purge the organiztaion of "liberals." This is getting to be fucked up. Now you have a mostly Republican military, House and Senate, possibly Supreme Courts and soon to be CIA. Can anyone say what's his faces name.

Ton Jitor?
 

Azih

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My F*cking Grandpa said:
a couple years late on that newsflash, bud ;)
No you see this is going to be fucked up like nothing we've seen before.

I mean good god, the soft liberals in the CIA were the only ones downplaying the god damn WMD reports. I am so very very frightened now.

The CIA is looked on by the White House as a hotbed of liberals and people who have been obstructing the president's agenda."
An intelligence gathering agency SHOULD NOT in any way be influenced by the god damn president's agenda.

*cry*
 

mattx5

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Why the fuck are we just posting in message boards about this? I'm a fucking Canadian, but if this was my president, I'd be out on the streets protesting this shit!

This isn't 'silly republican antics' anymore, this is a fucking corrupt, controlling Orwellian government brought to life!

This is fucking disturbing.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
mattx5 said:
Why the fuck are we just posting in message boards about this? I'm a fucking Canadian, but if this was my president, I'd be out on the streets protesting this shit!

This isn't 'silly republican antics' anymore, this is a fucking corrupt, controlling Orwellian government brought to life!

This is fucking disturbing.

Yeah, well, when the papers print stuff like this, the piercing shriek of "THE LIBERAL MEDIA HATES THE PRESIDENT!" starts in the chorus of people who don't understand that this country was founded on dissent.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
ShadowRed said:
McCain has been fighting Blair for the title of Primary Cock Rider to George Bush for a while now.
Oh, I know, but it continues to sadden me.
 

Triumph

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You know, the Bush administration might want to seriously consider who they're fucking with this time. I believe the last President that fucked with these fellows didn't serve out his full term.
 

MetatronM

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It's always bad news when the administration gets involved with the workings of the CIA. It doesn't matter if it's Dems or Republicans. It ALWAYS means that the CIA does an inferior job at what they are supposed to be doing because of pressure from the White House.
 

Shinobi

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Raoul Duke said:
You know, the Bush administration might want to seriously consider who they're fucking with this time. I believe the last President that fucked with these fellows didn't serve out his full term.

Yeah...but he was a Democrat. And with Bush Senior being ex-CIA, I'd say Bush Junior is simply trying to get the CIA back to where it was before.
 

Triumph

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Shinobi said:
Yeah...but he was a Democrat. And with Bush Senior being ex-CIA, I'd say Bush Junior is simply trying to get the CIA back to where it was before.
I was actually referring to Nixon. :D
 

Ripclawe

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Actually, it looks like a purge from the first purge that didn't work during Clinton.

The rogue agency comment from McCain was not a slip, but they were right about Aristide, little shit turned into papa doc jr JR.

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=papers&code=94-D_74

Director of Central Intelligence James Woolsey is expected to announce this reorganization -- the biggest at CIA since the early 1980s -- during testimony to Congress on 18 July. This announcement will draw upon the work of a special Directorate of Intelligence task force that was set up for the express purpose of overhauling the Directorate of Intelligence. Curiously, the DI managers said that the Directorate of Operations (where Ames worked) is preparing its own reorganization plan -- one that will be less drastic and will, in any event, not be announced until the fall.


What's Going On?


It is an open secret that the Clinton Administration is extremely displeased with the CIA Directorate of Intelligence. This animosity toward the Agency's analysts stems in part from briefings supplied to Congress last fall by the National Intelligence Officer for Latin America, Brian Latel, which raised serious questions about the mental stability, behavior and policy predilections of ousted Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide. The analysis and judgments -- and leaks to the press about them -- briefed by Mr. Latel greatly sharpened congressional opposition to the Clinton policy aimed at restoring Aristide to power, no matter what. The White House and much of the foreign policy establishment(1) will never forgive CIA for thus complicating its unquestioning embrace of Aristide.


By April 1994, Administration displeasure with CIA had turned into indignation. Faced with a growing number of foreign policy debacles, Clinton officials -- notably several on the staff of the White House and National Security Council -- grew increasingly furious at CIA intelligence assessments which suggested that Administration policy in North Korea, Somalia, Bosnia, China, and Russia was in trouble. Administration officials started to argue that CIA was not providing them with "the proper support." Some officials implied that if CIA had done a better job analyzing the world, Mr. Clinton's foreign policy would not be in trouble.
 
-jinx- said:
Yet another fucked-up story out of the Bush Administration...but is anyone honestly surprised?


True. Again I don't know why people bother getting mad at this point. There is nothing we can do about it just stop trying you'll only die tired. Just give it up if the president wants all republicans working in the government then so be it.
 

Mumbles

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Ripclawe said:
This cleaning out should have been done decades ago.

Actually, the guys who just handed in their resignations were highly regarded throughout the intelligence community. It's being seen as a pretty big loss, and a good show that Goss is really screwing things up. Of course, the republican politicians seem to disagree, but since when has any intelligent person trusted a politician? Sorry, but if it's about intelligence, and it's the CIA op vs. the random congressman, the CIA op wins.
 

LakeEarth

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mattx5 said:
Why the fuck are we just posting in message boards about this? I'm a fucking Canadian, but if this was my president, I'd be out on the streets protesting this shit!

Problem is, newspapers and TV news media don't cover this shit, or if they do, put a spin on it to make it more "balanced", which just means showing 'both sides' even when one is obvious lies.
 
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