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Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey...Beyonce?

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royalan

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Whitney Houston - THE Voice
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Celine Dion - The Canadian Vocal Wonder
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Mariah Carey - The Elusive Chanteuse, and Watcher of the 5th Octave
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Pop Vocal Legends all. Supreme technical skill, millions upon millions of album sales, and unrivaled public esteem. All 3 responsible for some of the most iconic, memorable ballads in music history. The inspiration of would-be singers the world over. To put it simply: the buck stops with these glorious ladies. They are known affectionately among the Pop faithful as The Vocal Trinity.

And yet, there would be a challenger to join their ranks:

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Beyonce Giselle Knowles Carter, The Usurper

On paper, the credentials are nearly there. She's been around for a minute, sold a decent amount of albums, has passable vocal talent when she sings live.

But she hasn't had a world caliber hit since Single Ladies. Her last album, the self-titled BEYONCE, came and unfortunately went after the shock of the album's sudden release faded. And while her catalog is vast, it isn't filled with the sheer number of timeless songs that the other women have. Beyonce has no answer to I Will Always Love You, My Heart Will Go On, or Hero. She doesn't have the sheer vocal will and power of Whitney, the effortless versatility and moxy of Mariah, or the sheer panache of Celine. Can she really claim place among them?

This is a hot topic in PopGAF lately. But I wanted to get GAF's general opinion.

What say you GAF? Does Beyonce deserve to be a Queen?
 
Schattenjäger

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I don't really listen to pop but she's the best looking out of all 4 -

Isn't that more important than her mediocre voice ?
 
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And_Gignac

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Beyoncé is at Madonna / Michael Jackson 's level. I have come to terms with this horrible reality, you better do it too sis.
 
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Admiral Bone to Pick

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I've come to the conclusion that a lot of the people who are really obsessed with female pop artists just want to have sex with them really badly. I mean, look at the OP. The first three artists are portrayed as beautiful and majestic, with perfect pictures. Beyonce is given a purposely unflattering, unattractive picture. It's the halo effect at work. If the OP wants to make the argument that the first three artists have these amazing qualities (singing voice, stage presence, etc.), it's a lot easier to convince us if they have accordingly flattering pictures. Then Beyonce, who's supposedly not up to snuff, is given an unattractive picture.

I feel you though OP. I want to have sex with the pop star Kimbra so badly that I've consistently exaggerated how good her music is. She's definitely talented, but her first album was mediocre outside of a few hits and her latest album was just terrible. So don't worry, I sympathize.
 
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AyaisMUsikWhore

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Roy should get the award for the most pressed Beyoncé stan hater ever lol.

Beyonce can only be compared to them. So in that case, she is a queen. She worked just as hard to earn her place which she seems to be dominating on all fronts.
 
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Admiral Bone to Pick said:
I want to have sex with the pop star Kimbra so badly that I've consistently exaggerated how good her music is. She's definitely talented, but her first album was mediocre outside of a few hits and her latest album was just terrible
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Screaming.

I see no lies about the quality of her albums though. Prism was horrible.
 
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Admiral Bone to Pick said:
I've come to the conclusion that a lot of the people who are really obsessed with female pop artists just want to have sex with them really badly. I mean, look at the OP. The first three artists are portrayed as beautiful and majestic, with perfect pictures. Beyonce is given a purposely unflattering, unattractive picture. It's the halo effect at work. If the OP wants to make the argument that the first three artists have these amazing qualities (singing voice, stage presence, etc.), it's a lot easier to convince us if they have accordingly flattering pictures. Then Beyonce, who's supposedly not up to snuff, is given an unattractive picture.

I feel you though OP. I want to have sex with the pop star Kimbra so badly that I've consistently exaggerated how good her music is. She's definitely talented, but her first album was mediocre outside of a few hits and her latest album was just terrible. So don't worry, I sympathize.
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They tend to be gay men, sis.
 
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Admiral Bone to Pick

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Crumpet Trumpet said:
i dont think.....the demographics really align.....tbqh
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Are you implying that it's disproportionately gay men who are interested in music from female pop stars? Or just those who have strong interest? I'd have to see a poll of PopGAF. As the OP stated, these are among the most popular artists in the industry, with hundreds of millions of records sold between them. And then Beyonce is given the stinker picture. I mean you can disagree with my first point (I mainly threw it in as a joke), but why does Beyonce get such an unflattering photo in the OP?
 
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mantidor

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Melkr_ said:
Beyoncé is at Madonna / Michael Jackson 's level. I have come to terms with this horrible reality, you better do it too sis.
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lol no

she'll get there when my grandma knows about her, so far she hasn't.

I think the age of stars the size of Madonna/Michael is over though.
 
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Courage

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She might have not have the accolades of all the artists you're praising, but she's definitely up there in terms of recognition and popularity in this generation. The rest comes down to personal preference.
 
PAULINK

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this is a very important debate and I'm glad it was brought to my attention. to be honest around the dogma shouts the island. The forward attribute treks next to the deed. Beyonce measures Queen on top of the clock. Our stiff overloads a trivial spur. Queen nests across Beyonce. The behind appraisal flips next to the air.
 
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AyaisMUsikWhore

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genjiZERO said:
I think she makes nice R&B pop songs, but I wouldn't say she is much of a vocalist.
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She actually is

mantidor said:
lol no

she'll get there when my grandma knows about her, so far she hasn't.

I think the age of stars the size of Madonna/Michael is over though.
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So your grandmother doesn't know her automatically means she isn't? This is the weirdest anecdotal evidence I have ever heard in my life. My grandmother is a hard Christian is she doesn't watch any television and listen to any radio stations outside of Christian radio and TV. She doesn't know Beyonce, doesn't mean the rest of the family doesn't either. She doesn't even know Micheal Jackson or a Madonna.
 
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JCX

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mantidor said:
lol no

she'll get there when my grandma knows about her, so far she hasn't.

I think the age of stars the size of Madonna/Michael is over though.
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That's true, but not for the lack of artists who could hold that title. It's mostly the internet's fault for splintering everything.

But of current female artists, nobody comes close to Beyonce as a pure pop star. Gaga could have been in contention if not for most everything after The Fame Monster.
 
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mantidor

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You know now thinking about it, pop stars really break into all demographics based on their singing quality. Hell, my dad bought Whitney Houston albums, he knows of Celine and Carey but will likely never bother with their music. For him Beyonce, Christina, Britney etc are all on the same terms, new fads more fabricated than talented.
 
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