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Who the hell is Nancy Grace, and why do I hate her?

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KingGondo

Banned
To be honest, I don't know anything about this woman, except that she's on CourtTV, and she has a new O'Reilly-style show on Headline News. I've only seen her a couple of times, but everytime I catch a glimpse, a sudden impulse to SMASH the nearest item inevitably shoots through my mind.

inside-grace.jpg


Maybe it's because she only focuses on exploitative court-related stories, or because she comes across as a self-righteous, arrogant bitch... hell, maybe it's her name. It sounds so... so... evangelical and southern belle-esque. All I know is, she and O'Reilly would have amazing hate-sex.

Feel free to use the rest of this thread to expose your unreasonable hatred for any public figure, or to join in on the Grace-hate.
 

Tenacious-V

Thinks his PR is better than yours.
self-righteous, arrogant bitch...

All that needs to be said. The people she interviews on her headline show she doesn't even listen to. If it's not the same as her opinion, it's wrong. She's a bitch, plain and simple. She'd be perfect for Fox News.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
She's a bitch.

Fox News material that happens to be on CNN.
 
Hahaha, I have yet to find anyone that can tolerate this broad. My pops even calls her a cunt.

The only person possibly more annoying than Nancy Grace is Jim Cramer on CNBC. At least he can claim he's trying to help people with his dementia.
 
Nancy on April 28th about the Runaway Bride

GRACE: Well, look, I don`t have a degree in being a police chief. But I can tell you this much: This is not cold feet, all right? This is not cold feet. I know that much.

April 29th on the Runaway Brides husband

GRACE: Another question. Could you tell me, Jonathan, what was the fiance doing at the time she was jogging? Was he there in the home? Does he have an alibi?

April 30th was the day that the Runaway Bride finally came out of hiding and admitted everything was made up and it was cold feet. Fantastic reporting Nancy!
 

Johnas

Member
I don't really have an opinion of her, but in all fairness she's traveled a pretty rough road. I can't remember the details of her story exactly, but she ended up in the law profession after someone close to her died or was murdered, something of that nature. I'll look for it later if I have time. I've seen her a little on Larry King Live before, and she seemed level-headed and straightforward on there. It's been a while though.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Ancestor_of_Erdrick said:
I don't really have an opinion of her, but in all fairness she's traveled a pretty rough road. I can't remember the details of her story exactly, but she ended up in the law profession after someone close to her died or was murdered.

Her fiance was killed, and because of that she's now a self-appointed victim's advocate who makes ironic calls for justice by presuming guilt.
 
Ahh its good that CNN keeps transcripts

DEBRA OPRI, ATTORNEY FOR JACKSON`S PARENTS: Well, this is the bitter pill you`re going to have to swallow, Nancy. This is the reality, not the reality you have created for the last year. Michael Jackson is not guilty. Let him live his life in peace and stop trying to retry the case, and that`s what you`re doing.

GRACE: You know what? You`re right. So I guess I don`t need to hear from the defense, either, and that would be you! What are you doing? Don`t you think you`re doing a little rehash yourself, Miss Opri?

OPRI: No. I just want the world to know that our system works. We have a trial. We had a jury acquit him, and he is innocent. He walked out of that courtroom. To use Mesereau`s words, justice was served...

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! We know what happened. Why are you rehashing it?

(CROSSTALK)

OPRI: Sneddon, said, I accept the jury verdict. Why don`t you, Nancy?

:lol

Nancy never responded to the woman for the rest of the show or let her talk again.
 

Phoenix

Member
Drensch said:
According to her everyone is guilty, I don't think I've ever seen her say that someone wasn't guilty.


That's the mentality of a burnt out (and generally unsuccessful) prosecutor. They see everyone as guity of everything. When these people get burnt out they need to be given nice quiet homes away from society so they can go senile without destroying other people :)
 
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Deleted member 4784

Unconfirmed Member
I really like Nancy Grace, but I didn't like her remarks about the MJ jury:

Juror: "What kind of mother would let her child sleep in that man's bed?"
Nancy: "What kind of juror can make a statement like that and find the man not guilty?"

I suppose that she is somewhat bias (being a prosecutor), but I would still expect her to respect the rules of the court in how a verdict is to be weighed and handed down. She's a compelling prosecutor because of her emotional leanings, but I think that she overdoes it at times when she feels passionately about the case she is commenting on.

As for the Runaway Bride, I don't think that Nancy was alone in speculating that it would be another Scott Peterson.

BTW, I don't think she's all that bad and she was all I watched during the Scott Peterson case. I really like Nancy. =p
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Waychel said:
I really like Nancy Grace, but I didn't like her remarks about the MJ jury:

Juror: "What kind of mother would let her child sleep in that man's bed?"
Nancy: "What kind of juror can make a statement like that and find the man not guilty?"

I suppose that she is somewhat bias (being a prosecutor), but I would still expect her to respect the rules of the court in how a verdict is to be weighed and handed down. She's a compelling prosecutor because of her emotional leanings, but I think that she overdoes it at times when she feels passionately about the case she is commenting on.

As for the Runaway Bride, I don't think that Nancy was alone in speculating that it would be another Scott Peterson.

BTW, I don't think she's all that bad and she was all I watched during the Scott Peterson case. I really like Nancy. =p

It's not that she was the only one speculating guilt we know alot did that...... it's that in her mind everyone is automatically guilty and you have to PROVE that you are innocent.. not vice versa...
 

bionic77

Member
She really is the most heinous bitch I have ever seen on tv.

The shit that comes out of her mouth can be pretty amazing to watch.
 

bionic77

Member
I would imagine Nancy lost every case she had as a prosecutor because she is retarded and doesn't seem to understand how to argue properly.

However, her insanity would make her a scary sight if you were a defendant.
 

goMaki

Member
Nancy Grace is pure evil. She is my sworn enemy. >< She never gives ANYONE a chance. It's always GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY. In this house, we watch Court Tv all the time and anytime that witch is on I watch something else or have fun yelling at her... not that she could hear me but BAH!, it's worth it. :lol I would love to host a joint show with her and debate over all this court crap. :D It'd make my day to put her in her place.

Does my post make sense? Probably not. I don't care. I hate Nancy. End of post. BEEP

*Roxy*
 

Phoenix

Member
If you really don't like her and want to get her out of the public eye, I strongly encourage you to use the feedback form that I posted above. Tell everyone you know to use that link. It wouldn't be the first time someone was cut from CNN due to heavy and sustained negative public feedback.
 
Problem is, her show is the biggest draw on Headline News' "Headline Prime" block. I wouldn't see her going away any time soon.

And it truly frightens me how she seems to fuel this "husband is automatically guilty" assumption that I've heard a LOT, especially during the Schivo case.

By the way, Grace is NOT a reporter. She's under no obligation to give anything other the point of view she wants. Remember, just because it's on a news network, doesn't mean it's news.
 

Slurpy

*drowns in jizz*
KingGondo said:
To be honest, I don't know anything about this woman, except that she's on CourtTV, and she has a new O'Reilly-style show on Headline News. I've only seen her a couple of times, but everytime I catch a glimpse, a sudden impulse to SMASH the nearest item inevitably shoots through my mind.

inside-grace.jpg


Maybe it's because she only focuses on exploitative court-related stories, or because she comes across as a self-righteous, arrogant bitch... hell, maybe it's her name. It sounds so... so... evangelical and southern belle-esque. All I know is, she and O'Reilly would have amazing hate-sex.

Feel free to use the rest of this thread to expose your unreasonable hatred for any public figure, or to join in on the Grace-hate.

You're not alone. My blood turns to venom whenever her face appears.
 
About three months ago, The New Republic ran a cover story on Nancy Grace entitled Trial By Fury. It's a must read. In the meantime, I'll post some snippets:

Christmas came early and often last year for Nancy Grace. In mid-November, a jury in Redwood City, California, found Scott Peterson guilty of the murder of his wife, Laci, and their unborn son, Conner; then, on December 13, that same jury recommended that Peterson be sentenced to death. Grace, the feisty blonde Court TV anchor who had been covering the Peterson case from virtually the moment Laci Peterson was reported missing nearly two years earlier, could hardly hide her satisfaction with the decisions. Broadcasting from just outside the courthouse on the day of the verdict, she brandished a fresh copy of The San Francisco Examiner with the giant headline "scott guilty!" and proclaimed in a hushed, melodramatic tone, "Today, for this moment, there is justice for Laci and Conner." After the jury recommended death for Peterson--a decision that was greeted with cheers and high-fives by the throngs of people who had gathered on the courthouse plaza--Grace seemed to join in the revelry, telling her viewers, "A jury has spoken, and if you listen to those jurors the way I did today, you know that justice has been done."

...This rush to judgment made Grace a lightning rod for criticism and frequently left her on the defensive. "If someone from Mars came down and watched 'Larry King Live' and saw Nancy Grace on it, they [would] wonder why we have things called trials because everyone is so clearly guilty," griped one of King's other legal analysts. And it wasn't just Grace's fellow talking heads taking her to task. On one King show, Scott Peterson's father, Lee, even called in to excoriate her. "[Y]ou've crucified my son on national media," he lectured Grace. "[Y]ou sit there as a judge and jury ... convicting him on the national media, and you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself."

...Back then, legal analysts' primary function was to explain to viewers what was happening in the courtroom. "We never wanted our people to take sides in a trial," says Steve Brill, who, in 1991, started Court TV, the network that set the tone for the rest of cable's legal programming. "We didn't want to make a trial a 'Crossfire'-like event."

But that's exactly what has happened, as first Court TV (which Brill sold to Time Warner in 1997) and then the cable news channels adopted the political shouting-head format--made famous by CNN's "Crossfire" and later by Fox News shows like "The O'Reilly Factor" and "Hannity and Colmes"--for their legal affairs shows. Today, viewers can watch legal pundits yell at one another as they debate guilt and innocence, life and death, on any number of programs--from CNN's "Larry King Live" to Fox News' "On the Record with Greta Van Susteren" to msnbc's "The Abrams Report." And, most prominently, they can tune into Court TV, where Grace and a retinue of other shouting heads bloviate all day long. "Court TV has taken what's happened in the political arena with Fox News and extended that to the legal arena," says Mark Geragos, Scott Peterson's defense attorney, who himself often appears on the legal shout-fests. "It's the Fox-ification of the legal arena. And it's a significant problem."

The picture is of Keith Griffin, to whom Grace was engaged 25 years ago. The two met as students at Valdosta State University in Georgia, where he was on a baseball scholarship and she was majoring in English. After graduation, they planned to marry. But, in the summer of 1980, Griffin was murdered during a mugging that netted his assailant all of $30. His death became the seminal event of Grace's life. She subsequently learned that the man who murdered Griffin had been on parole, and she could not fathom how the criminal justice system had let him out on the streets. "There was nobody there for victims," she told me, recalling how bewildered and alone she felt as she sat in the courtroom watching the murder trial. "Victims didn't have a voice in our judicial system." Grace, who has remained single to this day, decided to be someone who would give them a voice. She abandoned her ambition of becoming an English teacher and set her sights on a legal career. After attending law school at Mercer University in her hometown of Macon, Georgia, she moved to Atlanta and, in 1987, joined the Fulton County District Attorney's office.

Grace proved to be a passionate advocate for the state and formed unusually close relationships with the people she called "my victims," or, if her victims were no longer alive, with their families. "She's my best friend," the mother of one murder victim once said of Grace. Her intense emotional investment certainly led to good results in the courtroom: She compiled a perfect record in the nearly 100 violent felonies she brought to trial. The Atlanta press dubbed her "Amazin' Grace."

Nancy Grace is untroubled by these sorts of concerns. As she sees it, if she enjoys an inherent advantage on television, where emotion carries the day, then that only serves to counter the advantage defendants enjoy in the courtroom. "Victims are unheard," she said in her office, as she gazed into a compact mirror and powdered her nose, getting ready to go on the air. "Defendants are heard, I pay for them to be heard. My parents living on a retirement pension after forty-five years on the railroad, they're paying for violent offenders to have lawyers for free, investigators for free, appeals for free. That's fine, I'm all for it. I want it that way. They are heard. They're more than heard." Besides, she maintained, this culture of instant justice and celebrity trials is hardly a recent development. "Think back to the Salem witch trials," she said. "Trials have always been a source of controversy. ... Trials will always be a spectator sport."

The crux of the matter, Grace contended, striking a rare note of agreement with many of her critics, is that the spectator-sport component be kept outside the actual courtroom. Getting up from her chair and slipping on a green blazer, she began making her way toward the studio. "It's the duty of the judge and the lawyers to make sure that does not penetrate to the jury," she said. "Who cares what everybody else thinks?"
 

mashoutposse

Ante Up
The picture is of Keith Griffin, to whom Grace was engaged 25 years ago. The two met as students at Valdosta State University in Georgia, where he was on a baseball scholarship and she was majoring in English. After graduation, they planned to marry. But, in the summer of 1980, Griffin was murdered during a mugging that netted his assailant all of $30. His death became the seminal event of Grace's life. She subsequently learned that the man who murdered Griffin had been on parole, and she could not fathom how the criminal justice system had let him out on the streets. "There was nobody there for victims," she told me, recalling how bewildered and alone she felt as she sat in the courtroom watching the murder trial. "Victims didn't have a voice in our judicial system." Grace, who has remained single to this day, decided to be someone who would give them a voice. She abandoned her ambition of becoming an English teacher and set her sights on a legal career. After attending law school at Mercer University in her hometown of Macon, Georgia, she moved to Atlanta and, in 1987, joined the Fulton County District Attorney's office.

She gets props from me for succeeding in getting to this point.
 

Bat

Member
Ug, I hate her so much. Yeah sure the defendents have all these advantages in these celebrity cases, but these constitute the tiniest fraction of all trials. Far outnumbering them are cases where because the defendent is poor, he/she doesn't stand a chance against the state's high price prosecution. People complain about how OJ Simpson's legal funds gave him such an advantage blah blah, however no one mentions that in 99% of the cases it is the prosecutor who has that same HUGE financial/law team advantage. If anything, there needs to be way more defendent rights advocates.
 

Phoenix

Member
mightynine said:
Problem is, her show is the biggest draw on Headline News' "Headline Prime" block. I wouldn't see her going away any time soon.

No she isn't. What gives you that impression?

By the way, Grace is NOT a reporter. She's under no obligation to give anything other the point of view she wants. Remember, just because it's on a news network, doesn't mean it's news.

CNN is very sensitive to user feedback. If you have a few thousand people write in and say "GET THAT BITCH OUT OF HERE", at best she'd be on at 5am. Guaranteed.
 

B'z-chan

Banned
After seeing her a few times on Court TV and now on Headline News. I wish i owned a gun and a bullett. This bitch needs to be taught a lesson or something. I dont even know her i hate her.

She needs to just kill herself and the world will be a better place for it.
 

lexy

Member
She looks exactly like the worst teacher I've ever had. Right down to the condescending, shit-eating, smile/smirk. I never really cared for her, but I hate the fact that she seems to be all over the TV nowadays.
 
mashoutposse said:
Please say there's a video of this somewhere

I saw it live, but i've been searching the net and haven't came across the video. The text gives you an idea of the level of ownage, but when you see it you really get a good idea. Nancy's eyes bug out when that woman says that to her.
 

Shinobi

Member
Heh, my dad was complaining about her a couple nights ago.

Sadly, I'd probably still hit it...not unlike that hateful stilt Ann Coultier.
 

KingGondo

Banned
Hahahaha, good to see the Grace-hate is proceeding unimpeded.

Here's another picture, my minions... let it fuel the fire of our disgust.

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Phoenix said:
No she isn't. What gives you that impression?.

The fact that she pulls in about half a million viewers each night for her show, more than most of the MSNBC lineup. With the MJ verdict, she was around 700,000. You think Showbiz Tonight or Prime News Tonight is pulling in those kind of numbers?

Hey, I keep up with the number of viewers. Sure, she's no threat to the big daddy of opinion talk shows with a dash of news thrown in to spice things up (Fox), but her numbers are better than MSNBC.

She's what the most people are tuning into on Headline News. And I wouldn't be surprised if some people are watching her hoping she'll take a big fall.
 

Phoenix

Member
mightynine said:
The fact that she pulls in about half a million viewers each night for her show, more than most of the MSNBC lineup. With the MJ verdict, she was around 700,000. You think Showbiz Tonight or Prime News Tonight is pulling in those kind of numbers?

What you neglect to see is that the CNN show numbers have not changed significantly from times when she wasn't there. If I look at the share for headline news from May to May to May it has hovered around 22% share going up or down a percentage point from month to month. The ratings for headline news are broken up over 4 segments. The most popular segment is on Sundays from 9am-10am - not the time when she is actually on. Nancy Grace is on 8pm to 9pm and then replayed 10pm to 11pm. The CNBC shows Contentder/Apprentice/Poker have had a larger growth difference in growing audience than Nancy Grace segments. I have a metric assload of CNNs numbers at my disposal if you want to do a back and forth on them.

She's what the most people are tuning into on Headline News. And I wouldn't be surprised if some people are watching her hoping she'll take a big fall.

On what are you basic that, so I can see if it correlates with the actual figures :) Believe you me I'd know pretty quick.

Oh and while we're at it. The top 10 programs on CNN are: Larry King, Larry Kind, News Night, Late Edition, CNN Live Saturday, CNN Live Saturday, CNN Sunday, CNN Saturday Morning, CNN Live Saturday, People In the News (Sat), and Paula Zahn Now

(going in order of rank - some are tied)
 
This bitch is psychotic. Last night or the night before she was talking about the missing teenager, and she was grilling this poor correspondent about the police actions there. She kept yelling some bullshit about how they should have found a body by now if they just followed the current of the river, and the correspondent had a huge "WTF!?!?" look on his face and tried telling her that they did do that and that it isn't that simple, but she wouldn't have it.

Nancy Grace is just scary. :(
 
Phoenix said:
I have a metric assload of CNNs numbers at my disposal if you want to do a back and forth on them.

Let's take it to PM. I'd like to see the share and if you have it, number of viewers for Grace's time slow before her show and after. Now I'm curious.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
What a disgusting circle jerk. Later this hour Wolf Blitzer is interviewing Nancy Grace about her book and her horrendous view of the criminal justice system.

*vomits*
 
Bat said:
Ug, I hate her so much. Yeah sure the defendents have all these advantages in these celebrity cases, but these constitute the tiniest fraction of all trials. Far outnumbering them are cases where because the defendent is poor, he/she doesn't stand a chance against the state's high price prosecution. People complain about how OJ Simpson's legal funds gave him such an advantage blah blah, however no one mentions that in 99% of the cases it is the prosecutor who has that same HUGE financial/law team advantage. If anything, there needs to be way more defendent rights advocates.

People do claime that Simpson's legal funds that gave him an overhwelming advantage, but they forget the social climate at the time of his trial, the inept prosecution, and the error upon error committed by law inforcement officials up to and during the trial. Oh, and the Michael Jackson case cost tax payings millions. The stereotype of a cash strapped prosecutor, scrambling against the big, bad celebrities is often outdated.

But back to Nancy Grace -- she sucks.
 

LakeEarth

Member
THANK GOD, FINALLY unbanned! I've seen this thread for a day now and I've been itching to say how much I hate this bitch.

What the hell is wrong with news networks?!? They can't see how having a woman like this have a show is harming their rep? Someone who is blind to the facts and will beileve anything she wants? This isn't Fox fucking News, it's CNN. Don't give me this woman who will believe everyone is guilty, and doesn't even have the fucking decency to fucking backpeddle when she's proven wrong. She's accuse, she'll yell, she'll ignore facts, and once she's proven wrong again and AGAIN you just never hear about it again on her show. Or, like on the Michael Jackson show, she'll keep saying she was 'right' even though he was declared innocent.

Okay, she had a hard life. Doesn't stop her from being a total douche bitch ass queen that just so happens to have a TV show. Go to FoxNews with all the other opinionated and always wrong dirtbags!
 
LakeEarth said:
What the hell is wrong with news networks?!? They can't see how having a woman like this have a show is harming their rep? Someone who is blind to the facts and will beileve anything she wants?

They just care about ratings. She's going to bring ratings because she easily attracts attention. It seems like the more people are hated the more they become popular in the media. Consider all the hate Fox News gets, yet its still the most popular cable news network. Basically all you need to get is someone that's really loud and that believes they're always right and you've got a winner in cable news.
 

Phoenix

Member
SolidSnakex said:
They just care about ratings. She's going to bring ratings because she easily attracts attention. It seems like the more people are hated the more they become popular in the media. Consider all the hate Fox News gets, yet its still the most popular cable news network. Basically all you need to get is someone that's really loud and that believes they're always right and you've got a winner in cable news.

As I've said many times before. Americans don't want news - what they REALLY want is to be entertained. The only way to change these folks is to show that you aren't entertained by them. You may get some talking head or someone worse to replace them however.
 

Shinobi

Member
OpinionatedCyborg said:
People do claime that Simpson's legal funds that gave him an overhwelming advantage, but they forget the social climate at the time of his trial, the inept prosecution, and the error upon error committed by law inforcement officials up to and during the trial. Oh, and the Michael Jackson case cost tax payings millions. The stereotype of a cash strapped prosecutor, scrambling against the big, bad celebrities is often outdated.

They also forget the simple fact that the prosecution ate camel balls. I could've won that case for OJ.
 
xsarien said:
Her fiance was killed, and because of that she's now a self-appointed victim's advocate who makes ironic calls for justice by presuming guilt.

As this recent article mentioned, she's not afraid of retelling that story:

If you watched this week's coverage of the watch on the Jackson jury, you must have lost count of the number of times Nancy Grace — Court TV's harpy in chief and the dark star of Headline News — looked into the camera and, with swimming eyes and quivering lower lip, began a sentence by saying, "As a crime victim myself, I …."

It is impossible not to know at this point that Grace's fiancé was murdered in the course of a robbery. People are entitled to grieve as they must — unless, to gloss Wilde's defense of sexual privacy, they do it in the road and frighten the horses. Then it becomes a public matter. Here, as so often these days, we confront what has become a pornography of pain.

Once you obliterate the boundaries that used to delineate journalism from advocacy, all sorts of other irritating barriers fall as well. Take, for example, the customary prohibition against using your position in the news media to promote personal interests. All this last week, Grace has been using her shows to promote her new book, "Objection," published this week.

Every one of her shows ended with some sort of plug for it, but the apogee was reached Wednesday. That was the day the book hit the stores and Grace not only discussed her book on both her Court TV and Headline News shows, but also for a full hour on CNN's top-rated show, "Larry King Live." You can't buy that kind of publicity — unless, of course, you're engaged in the media equivalent of self-dealing.

Grace also feels free to tell interviewers that she dislikes all defense lawyers and writes that "the Founding Fathers set up our Constitution in a way that allows defense attorneys and defendants to literally get away with murder."

Take that, Jim Madison, you victim-hating swine.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/la-et-rutten11jun11,1,2397611.story
 
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