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who won mens all around gymnastics gold?
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You know what's funny about this spoiler stuff? NBC actually bothers to warn people about them, but out local news station here in Arizona doesn't. It'll be their top story and they don't give you any warning at all.
Also, I'd sex Hamm if he just didn't talk. I love men's gymnastics, they're all so hot.
Also, I'd sex Hamm if he just didn't talk. I love men's gymnastics, they're all so hot.
DarthWufei said:
Same here. I was in for a huge disappointment last winter when I heard the twins talk for the first time. Whenever I see a mic going near them now I just press the mute button.
I found out hours ago and its not like it hurts anybody by using spoiler tags.
Stele said:
It was a blind landing, which pushed the starting score pretty high. They took off five/tenths of a point for "sitting". A little bit more for being off center. It was a fair score.
Awesome night for Gymnastics. I felt sorry for the Koreans, but I think Hamm deserved it.
I know what happened. He sat, he was out of bounds, and one of the judges had to save his ass - that should have been an extra .5 deduction right there. Yang Wei for his fuckup got deducted .2 more than Hamm with the same built-in .5 deduction.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, I don't mind Hamm winning. He's the only American gymnast that actually does some of the high-risk skills, instead of just relying on consistency with the safe moves. That's what I want to see -- difficult skills. Like Yang Wei's double-double layout on Floor and Draglescu's whatever on Vault. Too many bitches are winning medals just because the real competitors are screwing up.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, I don't mind Hamm winning. He's the only American gymnast that actually does some of the high-risk skills, instead of just relying on consistency with the safe moves. That's what I want to see -- difficult skills. Like Yang Wei's double-double layout on Floor and Draglescu's whatever on Vault. Too many bitches are winning medals just because the real competitors are screwing up.
Stele, Yang Wei screwed up on his actual routine. Not the landing. Paul Hamm did the exact opposite.
If Yang Wei had done his routine perfectly but had a landing like that, you would have seen a similar score.
If Hamm had an abysmal vault but stuck the landing, he would have had a lower score than a 9.1.
If Yang Wei had done his routine perfectly but had a landing like that, you would have seen a similar score.
If Hamm had an abysmal vault but stuck the landing, he would have had a lower score than a 9.1.
Admittedly, I don't know a ton about Olympic judging, but it makes sense.
Paul Hamm's actual vault was great. Yang Wei's routine, he screwed up and fell off the apparatus.
Paul Hamm's landing was terrible. Yang Wei's dismount was fine.
Do you note the differences? I think it is a bigger deduction from screwing up your actual routine, and falling off (plus other various deductions that happen normally), than doing a phenominal vault but missing the landing.
Paul Hamm's actual vault was great. Yang Wei's routine, he screwed up and fell off the apparatus.
Paul Hamm's landing was terrible. Yang Wei's dismount was fine.
Do you note the differences? I think it is a bigger deduction from screwing up your actual routine, and falling off (plus other various deductions that happen normally), than doing a phenominal vault but missing the landing.
That was an amazing competition. I don't think I've ever seen someone come back against such seemingly impossible odds as Hamm did. After his vault, it seemed like just getting a bronze medal would take perfect rountines on his part and some bad moves on his competitor's parts. But to win the gold, wow!
It'll be interesting to see how the Chinese do in the individual events. Considering what was thought they would achieve in gymnastics at the Olympics this time, they've struggled to say the least.
It'll be interesting to see how the Chinese do in the individual events. Considering what was thought they would achieve in gymnastics at the Olympics this time, they've struggled to say the least.
Stele said:
i didnt' watch tonight (i taped it going to watch it tomorrow) but i think it's a kasamatsu with 2 twists (if it's the same has his vault from the team comp). it's a 1/4 turn on, then 1/4 turn off in the opposite direction, into a front flip...sort of. i dunno i've never really done one but that's always how it's been explained to me. i'm not positive that it's worth a 10.0 either, but i think i heard it mentioned that it was out of a 9.8.
out of bounds i think is .1, plus .5 for the fall, plus various execution deductions means he probably had a fair score. i'll have to post again after i watch.
edit: i think the best way to explain a kasamatsu is to say it's a cartwheel/roundoff on, then turn and flip
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