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[gofreak]

I thought that was confirmed at E3?

No. That was misreported. GTA wasn't mentioned officially by anyone. Rockstar showed a demo of a Western style game (unless GTA is going to the wild west ).

 

[teepo]

^you can announce a game without showing videos.

 

[jiggle]

Why you gotta ruin my hopes like that

well, if the article/list is real, they might've gotten V and VI mixed up.
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=62028

 

[Wollan]

There's Killzone Tactics coming to PSP as well.
Maybe Killzone won't go with a number but rather a subtitle?

Killzone
Killzone tactics
Killzone invation..or something

 

[Acosta]

I thought that was confirmed at E3?

It was. Things about new engines and all wasn´t commented there for I can remember, but that was for sure (Rockstar is not going to work with Renderware again, making their own engine is the best option to maximise benefits and avoid situations like what happened with Criterion).

The article sounds logical in many parts. But I will take with a hung pinch of salt until a reliable confirmation.

 

[fse]

A 2D Castlevania on PS3 would so rock my world.

 

[gofreak]

^you can announce a game without showing videos.

True, but I don't recall even any mention of either. Could be wrong on that though.

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

This article is just too weird, yeah. So much shit is confirmed in it that it's fucking ridiculous.

:lol

 

[Miguel]

So uh, don't ask who this is, but well, time to play Post Office!


<Red_Cloak> hey
<MiG> uh, hey
<Red_Cloak> http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=62585&page=2&pp=50
<Red_Cloak> break the news to them, the Marvel MMORPG is being deved by MS
<Red_Cloak> so.... that 'psm news' is faked
<Red_Cloak> same goes with suidoken v being a ps3 title
<Red_Cloak> it's ps2
<MiG> and uh, who are you
<Red_Cloak> dr bungholio
<Red_Cloak> seriously, they think it's fake, but no one has noticed that marvel portion of the post
<Red_Cloak> that would be like everquest going to the xbox
<Red_Cloak> tell em 'dr bungholio' sent ya
<Red_Cloak> you posting it?
<MiG> I'll just copy, paste this :/
<Red_Cloak> k lol

 

[C- Warrior]

This article is just too weird, yeah. So much shit is confirmed in it that it's fucking ridiculous. There's gotta be like 20 or 30 scoops in it. I know we're nearing TGS and news is gonna start pouring in, but this shit is nuts. New PS3 Ghouls'N'Ghost?

I mean... I'm definitely extremely wary of even starting to believe this shit. I hope others take it with the smallest grain of salt EVER.

Fuckin seriously.

There are over 100 different aspects of that article (game lists included) that would typically make PSM's 'front-page' feature article news.

MGS4? DMC4? GTA4? POP4?

What the fuck man?! That's one too many 4's I can handle. That would normally cover 4 front-page featurette's for PSM. But all in one issue?!
I call B.S

This is too good to be true. New ICO project? New Ghosts and Ghouls?!

The PS3 is "teh OMGzgoddd roXXers in da power" compared to the 360.

What was PSM's source...Kutaragi?

 

[DCharlie]

"Sony's online service will be free. Mark my words. BUT, microtransactions will be a part of it. So for the extra cool stuff you will have to pay. But still, no dollar for ordinary online play."

Harrison said that it would be up to individual companies to create "financial relations" (or something like that) with the customer. That doesn't particularly screen 'free' to me.

I expect the existing PS2 model to be in place again for PS3 (pay per channel) and i think the US might get the same this time around.

As for the rest of the text - is PSm an official magazine??? It just seems like a colabouration of rumours culled together.

"What do you think MS is doing with Live that's so amazing (technically or otherwise) that it couldn't be duplicated by a determined competitor? It's just a peer-to-peer matchmaking service with some bells and whistles, for crying out loud!"

... well, lets just see what the other two companies come out with. I don't think it's quite as easy as you'd think. MS has had a good 4 years to iron out kinks, Sony are going for a first cut attempt.

 

[Acosta]

True, but I don't recall even any mention of either. Could be wrong on that though.

I believe it was said by some Sony exec (Kutaragi?) at the the press conf. I was there, but given english is not my mother language, I have difficulties to remember specific quotes. So I can be wrong as well.

 

[mckmas8808]

:lol

Hey guys are you missing the whole GTA4 will use BLU-RAY!!! What about the whole PS3 is easier to program for than the PS2 and maybe even the Xbox360? I thought that was huge too.

 

[Error]

Hey guys are you missing the whole GTA4 will use BLU-RAY!!! What about the whole PS3 is easier to program for than the PS2 and maybe even the Xbox360? I thought that was huge too.

People here don't even think this article is real. me included

 

[J2 Cool]

I'll buy the first next gen game to use the subtitle "Next Gen". That's probably when it will really sink in for me. Not to mention the game's always gonna stay relevant with the word 'Next'.

 

[Amir0x]

Christ, tracking down the source of this article is annoying. This is seriously someone who spoke to someone who spoke to someone typed this shit up type crap.

I'm now at the third place that said they got it from ELSEWHERE. This shadow dude said he got his info from PSINEXT. I go there, and black_13 said it was typed up by "Zbox."

"Zbox" is apparently a poster at teamxbox as I found a few of his older posts there. Then I visit it, and there it is. THE thread.

He says these are the PSM Reviews:

We Love Katamari 9/10
Burnout Revenge 9/10
Indigo Prohecy 8.5/10
Spartan: Total Warrior 7/10
The Nightmare Before Christmas: Oogie's Revenge 7.5/10
NBA Live 06 8.5/10
NBA 2k6 7.5/10
Digital Devil Saga 2 8/10
Sniper Elite 9/10
The Suffering Ties That Bind 7.5/10
Frogger: Ancient Shadow 6.5/10
InuYasha: Feudal Combat 5.5/10
Genji: Dawn of the Samurai 7/10
Scooby-Doo: Unmasked 6/10
DICE 5/10
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06 9/10
Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects 5.5/10
187 Ride or Die 7.5/10
Urban Reign 6/10
SLAI: Stell Lancer Arena International 7.5/10
one Peice: Grand Battle 7.5/10
DDR Extreme 2 8/10
Capcom Classics Collection 9/10
Namco Museum 50th Anniversary 8/10
Midway Arcade Treasures 3 8/10
FIFA 06 8/10
NCAA March Madness 06 8/10
NHL 2k6 7/10
Delta Force Black Hawk Down 5.5/10
MSG Seed: Never Ending Tomorrow 6.5/10
Evil Dead: Regeneration 7.5/10
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3 6.5/10

PSP:
Namco Museum Battle Collection 8/10
FRANTIX 7/10
GripShift 5/10
MediEvil Resurrection 7/10
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06 9/10
Burnout Legends 8.5/10
FIFA 06 8/10
Marvel Nemesis 5/10

Not only that, but there is no "M$" crap in it. Someone inserted that shit in DOWN THE ROAD. He actually wrote it up pretty nicely.

Here is the article as written by ZBOX:

PSM's information came from developers. Some on the record, some off.

....particularly when it comes to ease of development for the system: how it cmpares to PS2, and more importantly, Xbox 360. "The *****ing this round sounds opposite of the last. Both are friendly, but the PS3 may actually be friendlier," reports one of out PS2 and Xbox 360 development sources, who wished to remain anonymous. "People are finding that the [xbox] 360 has some stupid bottlenecks."

Developers will soon learn more about the ins-and-outs of creating PS3 games, as Sony has started taking orders for final development hardware to be delivered by December. At that time, game creators will be able to tell just how much mroe extra polish they can put on their titles without worrying about them crapping out on a retail PS3.

The latest on PS3's power

"Once we have final hardware for both next-gen systems, we'll have a much better idea of how they caompare, but teh general consensus right now is that the PS3 is considerably more powerful than the X360 across the board," said another source. "It's important to get a good idea of which is the most powerful soon, since multi-platform games will need to be either ported down from PS3 to 360 or vice-versa."

Speaking of multi-platforming games, another of our next-gen contatcts chimed in with the following when we asked them, flat out, which system will ultimatelyl have the best looking games. "Only the games that are exclusive to tiether system will be real technical showcases,"adding "There will be strong points for each, but the cross platform games will most likely look and perform almost identically."

PS3's Promising Online Support

In addition to all of the cool Wi-Fi-based PSP to PS3 functionality we've previously reported Sony is working on (transferring media and save data between the two anywhere in the world at a hotspot), there's some actual news to report on the online gameplay front. not only that, it's pretty good. (Although the gradual diminishing of Sony's PS2 online plans over that console's life will always have us taking their goals in this department with a grain of salt.)

PS3 is slated to have an actual online community ready to back it up on day one, complete with friend tracking, message services, and a central hub for everything. If it sounds like xbox Live, it should. Sony has been folloowing M$'s moves, and, well, plans to copy most of them, according to our sources. "They [Sony CEA] have a whole division that was put in place after the Network Adaptor was released for PS2 that bascially dropped focus on PS2 and moved to planning the PS3," says one designer working on an online PS3 title. "They knew that early that they were not going to compete during the current gen."

Ramping up for an early release?

There's been a lot of talk about Sony's E3 2005 proclamation that PS3 would ship in the spring of 2006. A lot. Would it be in Japan only, or were they talking about the U.S. too? Questioned further on teh topic, Sony execs have since stuck to their guns, saying that the system would be available worldwide before next summer. Is that even posssible?

Yes. However, there's the question of launch games and system price. (Ok, here it goes into some things about what Ken Kutaragi said (and a few other things) about the pricing, but we all already know about that so I wont' post it)

PS3 will have a limited playable presence at TGS 2005. Sony has told PSm to expect a significant presence for the system at January's CES in Las Vegas. If a March launch does occur, it owuld be accompanied by only a couple of first-party titles, another two to three from EA, and one title at most from their other thrid parties. Madden NFL football developer Tiburon has had PS3 dev hardware longer than almost any other U.S. developer. Rockstar North has had stable kits since at least August 2005.

There's a lot of talk among the PS3 developer community about the importance of being firt-to-market, or at least not letting M$ get too much of an installed base before PS3 ships. The general feeling is that Sony considers xbox 360 to be a possible contender in this generation, so they're not going to just rest on their laurels. In fact, developers report that Sony Japan is taking a much more hands-on role in the U.S. luanch of PS3 than it did with PS2 or PSP. Shades of the PS2 luanch, there.

GTA 4: Rebuilt from the Ground Up

The next GTA game is going to look really good. Actually, maybe that should be feel really good. It's a no-brainer that on the most powerful games console yet, one of our favorite series will have better graphics. But, base on developer Rockstar North's technical research, GTA4 will be more about immersion than just mere eye candy.

Rockstar North is creating a specialized game engine for PS3 that will rbing GTA 4 to life to a degree that the PS2 games could only hint at. Speciafially, they're going to be using the high data transfer bandwidth of the Cell CPU, RSX GPU, and Blu-ray Disc to use several streams of game info simultaneously. The game's city- unfortunately yet to be even hinted at- will still be free roaming and seamless, but broken down into smaller, more deatailed areas at the engine level, into which the game designers are going to eb able to pour more textures, more oject variety, and tons of details (such as discareded soda cans with their own physics), just for starters. The goal is a city that's less repetitive and where everything - and everyone- looks and acts mroe like they would in the real world on every level.


MGS 4 Becomes a War Zone

Pointless to post intro info...so onto the second paragraph...

One source has described the game to PSM as "a cross between Rambo and Black Hawk Down," with Solid Snake plunged into the middle of a high-intesntiy urban war zone where artillery is taking out cover all aroudn him and AI controlled "sidekicks" fight alongside him as if they were actual human-controlled characters. The new 3D camera will paly a big role in surviving the fight quarters and constantly changing cover.

Kojima has an update on teh game planned for TGS.

+ The game list

Find it here.

Still can't confirm if it's true or not, but Zbox IS well established. C'est la vie

 

[Bodom78]

"GTA4 is for PS3, and a specialized game engine for it"

Great, Rockstar should be able to milk at least 6 spin off GTA titles or maybe more from it.
Part 3 was great, Vice City was so so, and the current one just plain sucks. Hopefully they do stick to their guns and revamp the series good and proper.

 

[Wollan]

Sony are going for a first cut attempt.

As most people know, the first cut hurt the deepest...*melody*

 

[Acosta]

Yes, it´s truth. Marvel MMORPG is a Xbox 360 one... but it could be that is the list what was made up.

 

[fullmetalzero]

A print magazine is really referring to Microsoft as "M$"? Is it run by usenet fanboys? :lol

Nah, I've read the article and it's just "Microsoft." Thread starters's own opinions sneaking in, evidently. :lol

Also, it's "New Suikoden," not Suikoden V, I believe...

Those guys have been hitting with new PS3 info every issue.

 

[Amir0x]

Also, ZBOX typed up the Indigo Prophecy review from PSM.

If this is fake, he's going through a lot of trouble now...

 

[psycho_snake]

Wow amir, thanks a lot I still wont believe all of this anyway until we get proper confirmation, all of this sounds far too big.

 

[Wollan]

Pre-ordered both Fahrenheit(Indigo prophecy) and Burnout PSP a few hours ago.
Both those games as well as TGS this coming weekend. Halleluja.

 

[Suikoguy]

well, i'm not saying anything till I see the issue, or get confirmation...

 

[Amir0x]

More shit typed up from ZBOX. It's an interview in the new PSM with Andrew Goldman, Pandemic dev in the latest issue...

PS3 Devs: On the Record
Andrew Goldman
Chief Executive Officer, Pandemic
Developer of: Mercenaries, Star Wars Battlefront II, Destroy all Humans

PSM: How will PS3's power translate into new game experiences?
AG: Having more memory translates quite litterally into AI entities having more memory. With more than ten times the RAM, we can collect and store a lot more information about the world, and how the player has interacted with it. We should see much more immersive and reactive environments in this generation.

PSM: Do you think the alck of a built-in HDD will hurt the PS3? Did it really help the Xbox?
AG: The hard drive on the Xbox was great for improving load times, but I don't think we, as game designers, ever found a unique and compelling way to use it.

PSM: Do you think M$'s (Amir0x's Note: interesting, he added this now) early lead will have a significant impact on the PS3's future?
AG: You'll have to ask me this in 2006. It will depend on the strength of the 360 launch and Sony's ability to generate anticipation for the PS3 during M$'s launch. Sony has done this well before and if you look back the Dreamcast and Saturn being first is not always an advantage. The key question is where [on which system] and when will the first exciting game show up?

PSM: Why does the PS3 personally excite you, as a game designer?
AG: Pusing towards bigger more realistic worlds opens up significant design potential for the types of games we make. The realism will help us to broaden our appeal and make our game more understandable to a wider audience. That's all cool, but I think the really cool stuff will come down the raod as we see how this piece of hardware fits into teh wider world surrouding it.

How does it integrate with other forms of entertainment? How does it connect with other people? How odes it connect to other devices in the house? How does it allow us as a developer to maintain a constant connection with our community of consumers? This is all exciting stuff because it opens up a range of creative possibilities for developing totally new types of games. This is what will drive the next generation of hardware.

PS3 Devs: On the Record
Mark Reign
Vice President, Epic games
Developing: Unreal Engine 3, UT 2007

PSM: What do you think about hardware features, such as the built-in Ethernet router, being cut from PS3? Also, will the lack of a built-in HDD be a drawback?
MR: I think they simply realized a router isn't a necessity. We always welcome a hard drive, and we'd love to see on in every unit, but we understand that we're getting a lot already: a high-end NVIDIA graphics processor, 512 Md of RAM and the Cell processor and Blu-ray disc. Given the choice of 256Mb and a hard drive or 512 Mb I'll take the 512 Mb or RAM every time.

PSM: Do you think Microsoft's early lead will have a significant impact on the PS3's future?
MR: That depends on how fast a start they get off to, how big a lead they can build and how Sony's strategy plays out. I think it is still too early to predict that because we dont' have any information about Sony's launch plans. I have a sneaky feeling we'll get that information a few weeks before Xbox 360 starts shipping to stores. [laugh]

PSM: Can Sony really take on Microsoft in online gaming this generation?
MR: I think they definitely have thier work cut out for them. xbox Live is a fantastic service that unifies the online experience for xbox customers. I dont' think it would be terribly difficult for Sony to come up with a similar online environment and I hope that they do. Imagine if Sony did but didn't charage a subscription fee for it? Now that would be a fight worth watching!

PSM: Since the ocst of making games is going to be greater, do you think that will lead to fewer games this generation?
MR: We make technology that makes it easier and less expensive for people to make games. We recently anounced a deal with Sony that will soon make it free for PS3 developers to try out Unreal Engine 3 toolset for PS3. it is my hope that putting these tools in developers' hands will promt enterprising developers to explore some cool orginal ideas. A game like Katamair Damacy, for expample, could easily be created in UE 3 for PS3, and I'm willing to guess it could be made for less than what it cost them to make it for PS2.

Hmmm... *sniff*

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

That's some nice detective work there, Amir0x! *thumbs up*

Hey guys are you missing the whole GTA4 will use BLU-RAY!!! What about the whole PS3 is easier to program for than the PS2 and maybe even the Xbox360? I thought that was huge too.

Yeah, man. Awaiting confirmation before we pop the champagne.

 

[DCharlie]

i now know the setting for MGS4...

it's set in Rockstars office in Scotland where Snake manages to develop an entire game engine without telling a shit load of the staff working on it

"AG: You'll have to ask me this in 2006. It will depend on the strength of the 360 launch and Sony's ability to generate anticipation for the PS3 during M$'s launch. Sony has done this well before and if you look back the Dreamcast and Saturn being first is not always an advantage. The key question is where [on which system] and when will the first exciting game show up?"

QFT

Also, the big games of this coming gen? We probably haven't even heard of them yet. This coming gens Halo, GTA* , nintendogs are probably things we haven't heard of - and no one knows which company will produce them or which machine it'll come to.

 

[jett]

AG: Having more memory translates quite litterally into AI entities having more memory. With more than ten times the RAM (Amir0x Note: what?), we can collect and store a lot more information about the world, and how the player has interacted with it. We should see much more immersive and reactive environments in this generation.

Sounds like he's comparing the PS2 vs the PS3. The memory statement certainly stands true in that case.

 

[Acosta]

Are we allowed to put all this features here? I can´t buy PSM given I don´t live in USA, but there is something against the TOS about translating here content from printed magazines, isn´t?

There are some really nice info if all this becomes true (that now seems more likely). Would be a shame this was closed.

 

[Amir0x]

Sounds like he's comparing the PS2 vs the PS3. The memory statement certainly stands true in that case.

Ah yes, duh. Man that was pretty early morning retardness on my part.

ON KILLZONE PS3 VISUALS

Believe it or not?

Are the graphics in Sony's E3 game trailers really what PS3 games will look like, or were they just tyring to steal the competition's thunder? Well, the turth is, it's mostly the former with a little bit of the latter mixed in.

The most questions have been raised about the validity of the Killzone PS3 "footage." Most observers were quick to call it pre-rendered CG. Hawk-eyed online chatters found evidence of polygon clipping and other hallmarks of real game footage in frame-by-frame sleuthing. One of our sources has this take: "They will get close to that [the E3 footage], but you will notice that it will simply feel different and some things will not look as good,' they said. However, they were quick to point out: "That was on hardware kicking out frames every five seconds; it was a guestimate to promised perforance. I am sure it is running great now on the lastes dev kit with some sacrifice to the final quality."

:|

Man, this dude sure is going through a lot of trouble to fake this if it IS fake.

My guess is he probably didn't fake it, it's actually PSM that has a lot of the info factually wrong.

 

[C- Warrior]

Katamari using the Unreal Engine on PS3, that's actually cheaper to develop than Katamari Damancy (on PS2)?

:lol :lol :lol

....though--HOT DAMN if that's true ^^

 

[Azrael]

As far as I'm concerned, the Suikoden series is dead to me. But anyway...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

When will November PSMs be out for most people?

Wait, the list says Suikoden V for PS3. What?

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=62028&highlight=Suikoden

 

[Amir0x]

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=62028&highlight=Suikoden

I know. That's my point: Suikoden VI, not V. V is definitely for PS2.

 

[ziran]

some interesting info.

sounds like ps3 is one amazingly powerful machine that devs can really tap into.

a q2 launch next year, worldwide, would =

 

[C- Warrior]

...and I doubt Konami would present a Castlevania PS3 when Curse of Darkness isn't even out yet.

If the article is correct, that would probably imply that the listed Castlevania -is- Curse of Darkness.

Unless since now and the last time the game was shown, Konami scrapped it and ported it to PS3, which I highly doubt.

 

[Mandoric]

So uh, don't ask who this is, but well, time to play Post Office!


<Red_Cloak> hey
<MiG> uh, hey
<Red_Cloak> http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=62585&page=2&pp=50
<Red_Cloak> break the news to them, the Marvel MMORPG is being deved by MS
<Red_Cloak> so.... that 'psm news' is faked
<Red_Cloak> same goes with suidoken v being a ps3 title
<Red_Cloak> it's ps2
<MiG> and uh, who are you
<Red_Cloak> dr bungholio
<Red_Cloak> seriously, they think it's fake, but no one has noticed that marvel portion of the post
<Red_Cloak> that would be like everquest going to the xbox
<Red_Cloak> tell em 'dr bungholio' sent ya
<Red_Cloak> you posting it?
<MiG> I'll just copy, paste this :/
<Red_Cloak> k lol

<Red_Cloak> hey
<blargh> Uh, hello?
<Red_Cloak> hey
<Red_Cloak> http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=62585&page=2
<Red_Cloak> post in that thread that the October issue of PSM came out September 3rd, last week. The original poster says this info is form the november issue
<Red_Cloak> *from
<Red_Cloak> aka he is full of shit
<Red_Cloak> post that please
<blargh> Er, okay.
<Red_Cloak> thanks

 

[Zaptruder]

Ah yes, duh. Man that was pretty early morning retardness on my part.

ON KILLZONE PS3 VISUALS



:|

Man, this dude sure is going through a lot of trouble to fake this if it IS fake.

My guess is he probably didn't fake it, it's actually PSM that has a lot of the info factually wrong.

What's factually wrong there?

5fps sped up to trailer speeds? Isn't that what's been said again and again? is there proof this wasn't actually the case?

 

[Redbeard]

"The *****ing this round sounds opposite of the last. Both are friendly, but the PS3 may actually be friendlier," reports one of out PS2 and Xbox 360 development sources, who wished to remain anonymous. "People are finding that the [xbox] 360 has some stupid bottlenecks."

Hasn't everyone been saying the opposite?

 

[Azrael]

The question is whether or not you'll have to pay like Xbox Live.

I dunno about you guys, but I don't really have the money to pay for two online services like that + PSU + FFXI, etc.

I don't think Sony will charge subscription fees. From what can be pieced together, the PS3 will have a uniform online interface like Live for things like login, friends list and messaging. However, unlike Live, Sony's not going to provide the infrastructure, and publishers will be responsible for running their own servers for online games. How they pay for it will be up to them. MMOs will have fees, and at least some 3rd parties like EA will surely charge fees to play their games online on PS3. Others won't charge online gaming fees, but will try to make their money back through microtransactions for content downloads, and from increased sales for having online play.

Nintendo I believe will offer a closed service like X-Box Live but make it free, figuring that there are enough fanboys out there who will pay $20 to download Famicom and Gameboy games to pay for it.

 

[gofreak]

Hasn't everyone been saying the opposite?

Depends what you're referring to. Most see X360 as being easier to develop for, but we certainly have had complaints about, for example, the CPUs in these systems. Anyway, everyone's going to have different opinions on this, things will get one some peoples' wick more than others, and in some instances those things will be more relevant to one system than another (as is perhaps the case here). Devs don't speak with one voice.

 

[Azrael]

I know. That's my point: Suikoden VI, not V. V is definitely for PS2.

It's quite possible PSM knew that a Suikoden was in development for PS3 but didn't know about the upcoming PS2 game, so they called it Suikoden V by mistake. There is after all independent confirmation that a Suikoden game is being developed for the PS3. Not very good proof that the PSM article isn't credible.

 

[mckmas8808]

What's factually wrong there?

5fps sped up to trailer speeds? Isn't that what's been said again and again? is there proof this wasn't actually the case?

Yeah I realize that, that quote is getting alot of play these days.

Yeah, man. Awaiting confirmation before we pop the champagne.

So when can we pop the champagne? When does this mag hit stores?

 

[mckmas8808]

I don't think Sony will charge subscription fees. From what can be pieced together, the PS3 will have a uniform online interface like Live for things like login, friends list and messaging. However, unlike Live, Sony's not going to provide the infrastructure, and publishers will be responsible for running their own servers for online games. How they pay for it will be up to them. MMOs will have fees, and at least some 3rd parties like EA will surely charge fees to play their games online on PS3. Others won't charge online gaming fees, but will try to make their money back through microtransactions for content downloads, and from increased sales for having online play.

WOW the only person other than me that has actually followed what Sony has been saying. This is what I expect Sony to have next-gen.

 

[TTP]

I think Killzone 2 is suppose to go to PS2. Killzone 3 for PS3.

Latest news I heard say that while KZ2 was indeed in development for PS2, it has now been moved on PS3.

 

[Amir0x]

It's quite possible PSM knew that a Suikoden was in development for PS3 but didn't know about the upcoming PS2 game, so they called it Suikoden V by mistake. There is after all independent confirmation that a Suikoden game is being developed for the PS3. Not very good proof that the PSM article isn't credible.

I guess that's a good point.

I'm not saying the article is false or not, anyway. I'm just saying to take it with a grain of salt until we get more... reliable... sources.

 

[jiggle]

Just noticed FFXIII Hope that's a team Kitase's project.








Where's Massiveattack? It's almost TGS, he need drop some hints!

 

[theREBELins]

Fuck waiting, I want PS3 for my bday in March.

 

[Starfire]

So much good news, New Team Ico project, New Wipeout, more immersive GTA, even larger than usual scale MGS (Sonic the Hedgehog??)

PSP connectivity has me a little intrigued too, using the PSPs memcard to store VMU-esque crossover games could be kinda cool, but I fear not much will come of it

 

[Ghost]

Doesnt read like BS to me, reads like typical magazine writing these days, a dash of truth mixed in with a whole lot of hyperbole.

I'll be seriously impressed if Sony offers the whole unified online package free.

 

[Spider_Jerusalem]

Statements like this really get me. What do you think MS is doing with Live that's so amazing (technically or otherwise) that it couldn't be duplicated by a determined competitor?

It's simple: MS has got a great time advantage, they're working and researching on the matter for far long time than Sony and Nintendo, and I doubt the other consoles will be able to match the high and deep level of integrtion with the online service that Xbox 360 will have. I'm expecting to see Sony's "service" more like actual Xbox Live, with everything in the hands of the developers (standardized or not), while 360 will have a more system-bound approach. It isn't a matter of waht can be done, but *how* will it be done, and I see Microsoft absolutely advantaged in this field.

Obviously these are my toughts, Sony and Nintendo didn't really reveal anything at all, so we'll see. I'm surely hoping they'll do everything right, 'cause I'll own all three next-gen consoles and I want a kick-ass online experience out of each one