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[perfectchaos007]

It's a two way street. I think the rule is in place because men are inherently physically stronger than women, but thats not always the case. If a 5'11" 200lb woman shoves a 5'5" 130 lb man against a wall, is that man not allowed to attempt to defend himself from the attack because the assailant is female? There are exceptions to every rule, and the "man should never under any circumstance hit a woman" definitely has, albeit rare, exceptions.

 

[jmood88]

You always have the right to defend yourself. But Jayz knew he could have ended it with one punch but he rightly decided just fend off her blows.

Ding ding ding. Most of the dudes in here seem to think that defending one's self means knocking a woman out. You can defend yourself without destroying someone much smaller than you. Now, if she has a weapon, then I'd have no problem beating a woman's ass.

 

[Dennis]

She is right

 

[Paracelsus]

Single punches can kill, men also obviously, so while what she said isn't wrong, it would be best to avoid it. The taller guy in the Solange video wasn't really trying, he looked quite patronizing, and yet he restrained her for most of the time. Can you imagine what would have happened had she gone "MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS" and attacked him too, and he clocked her one?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I've never hit a person in that way in my life, but she's damn right I would defend myself if anyone attacked me, man, woman, or mythical beast. Anyone calling her out on that is a dumbass.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

In theory she's correct. In reality she's not.

 

[Wilsongt]

Ding ding ding. Most of the dudes in here seem to think that defending one's self means knocking a woman out. You can defend yourself without destroying someone much smaller than you. Now, if she has a weapon, then I'd have no problem beating a woman's ass.

Oh, I certainly agree that you shouldn't hit the other person and then continue to rail on them while they are on the ground knocked out. Excessive force is never necessary. Use only the necessary force to stop the threat, or at least subdue the other person so the attacks stop. Never go full woman beater.

 

[RedShift]

It annoys me that people go "Oh equal rights, so we can hit women!" rather than "Oh equal rights, we shouldn't hit anyone".

She's right though, if someone attacks you you definitely don't have to sit there and take it just because they're female. Stop them, using physical force if you have to, but don't like, attack them in revenge after you've ensured your safety.

 

[Into]

Whoopi grew up in Manhattan in the 50s-60s, not on Tumblr. She has probably seen some shit in her life, as in seen first hand, not on YouTube and sent it to her friends.

The whole Carter family is lucky that Jay did not strike back, it would have been a gigantic media story, and brought distress to him, his wife and tarnished their image. It would have been as bad if not worse as Chris Brown, because Jay is older, wiser and him and Beyonce are bigger stars than Brown and Rihanna.

 

[IrishNinja]

Whoopi's really been on a roll since her infamous "rape rape" mess

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

I'd hit back but only with equal force and only if she refuses to listen to my warnings.

Not all women are dainty fragile flowers that wilt with the slightest retaliation. Some can do some real damage if they have the opportunity.

 

[andycapps]

Whoopi grew up in Manhattan in the 50s-60s, not on Tumblr. She has probably seen some shit in her life, as in seen first hand, not on YouTube and sent it to her friends.

The whole Carter family is lucky that Jay did not strike back, it would have been a gigantic media story, and brought distress to him, his wife and tarnished their image. It would have been as bad if not worse as Chris Brown, because Jay is older, wiser and him and Beyonce are bigger stars than Brown and Rihanna.

True, he's a smart and calm man that can hold back and not retaliate during that. No matter if he had the right to hit back or not, the tabloids would show her with a black eye and show a photo of Jay-Z smiling. His image would be ruined.

 

[ishibear]

Everyone has the right to defend themself. Jay Z did just that and didn't hurt Solange in the process. The goal with self defense is to protect oneself not go on a full out assault so yeah, he had no reason to physically harm her when he was already handling it. If you can restrain someone, why would you then decide to beat the shit outta them?

 

[Magicgamer101]

Am I allowed to defend myself if a smaller guy is attacking me? Am I just meant to stand there and take it cause I'm stronger than him, kinda ridiculous tbh.

 

[ScriptedReality]

Bravo Whoopi! From what I've seen growing so.. Men are taught to never hit women but women aren't taught to not hit men. Every time a chic hits a dude its.. She's just a woman's.. You're stronger than her.

 

[Nokagi]

Jay-Z did it correctly. A man can normally defend himself from a woman without having to throw punches. Not always but in most cases.

 

[Lambda Pie]

Am I allowed to defend myself if a smaller guy is attacking me? Am I just meant to stand there and take it cause I'm stronger than him, kinda ridiculous tbh.

how small we talking? a midget can legally stab you and wear your skin as visage.

 

[Kurita]

Of course she's right.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

I don't think I could bring myself to hit a woman.

But I could sure as hell sweep her leg.

 

[Wilsongt]

I fully expect Fox News to drag her threw the mud tonight.

 

[captmcblack]

If you're wailing on some dude, there's got to be a point where the person being wailed on can defend him or herself.

It's good that Jay-Z just ate the beating and avoided the controversy so that nobody calls him a woman-beater or something...but still, there's got to be a point if all things are supposed to be equal. I get not throwing some Mike Tyson haymakers or whatever, but there's got to be some way to not just get beat up.

 

[Malvolio]

He may have the right, but he made the right choice.

 

[ggnoobIGN]

 

[KibblesBits]

Of course you have the right to fight back.
Obviously you also have the responsibility of reading the situation and using an acceptable level of force in retaliation.

Jay Z handled the situation excellently but I wouldn't have been in uproar and labeling him a woman beater if he had put Solange on her ass. Obviously if the tables turned and he started going in on her hard it would have been a bit different, but just because someone is smaller than you of a different gender you don't loose the right to protect your own safety.

Yes, he sat there and got his ass beat quite spectacularly.
Props to Beyonce for remaining neutral and waiting patiently for the whooping to complete.

 

[Aaron Strife]

I don't think anyone should hit anyone

If someone was attacking me I'd try to restrain them first, though if it were a guy I'd probably be rougher, yeah.

 

[stufte]

Not all women are dainty fragile flowers that wilt with the slightest retaliation. Some can do some real damage if they have the opportunity.

Fucking this. I've seen some small women fuck some people up, men and women. If you don't want to get hit, don't start shit. This whole "women are weak, men should be stoic" shit is so amazingly contrary to feminism it's laughable.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I kind of agree. I don't condone violence against women, but if I had an argument with my wife and she punched or hit me multiple times in the head, I think it only fair that she might expect me to hit her back.

 

[LQX]

Wow, I cant believe some of the comments in this thread. Women are fragile in comparison to men. You do not hit women period.

 

[HammerOfThor]

Whats the story behind this?

 

[ChubbyHuggs]

It always surprises me how many GAFers on here think they'd just be KO'ing all the women in these scenarios, so they'd just restrain them.

 

[Lambda Pie]

Wow, I cant believe some of the comments in this thread. Women are fragile in comparison to men. You do not hit women period.

lol, women are a lot more durable than you think, breh.

 

[Jackben]

I don't understand how Whoopi is under fire for this. I agree that men have the right to defend themselves they choose to do so. It just so happens that Jay exercised restraint in this case, which is fine too. I don't see a single thing wrong with what she said. Stupid excuse for a pointless gender argument.

 

[entremet]

If they're an adult and they initiate the violence, don't be surprised if someone hits back.

My personal policy if just to push away if the woman is just using her fists and feet, but I don't begrudge anyone from hitting back if they did nothing wrong and the aggressor is not backing down.

If you're using weapons or bottles forget about any compassion.

 

[ScriptedReality]

Whats the story behind this?

One of his best friends growing up. Play fighting with her.

 

[Glass Rebel]

If you haven't been instructed in martial arts/self defense, defending yourself without hurting the other person isn't an easy feat so I guess she's right to a certain degree. It becomes a problem if dudes beat up women under the guise of "feminism" and "equality".

 

[Nokagi]

Yes, he sat there and got his ass beat quite spectacularly.
Props to Beyonce for remaining neutral and waiting patiently for the whooping to complete.

You've not seen many real ass beatings have you? The man was barely touched.

 

[Deadstar]

She's absolutely right.

She's not right. If you get punched in the side of the face you turn the other cheek. That's what Jesus did.

 

[DoktorEvil]

I'd hit back but only with equal force and only if she refuses to listen to my warnings.

Not all women are dainty fragile flowers that wilt with the slightest retaliation. Some can do some real damage if they have the opportunity.

I agree with this statement.

If you saw this girl coming at you, you wouldn' t try to defend yourself?

I've used the push and the slapaway game with women who insist on starting a fight, because I can't bring myself to hit a woman.

But when things get dangerous, Its my life or hers, and I'm gonna do whatever I can possible to defend myself.

 

[Kraftwerk]

Not all women are dainty fragile flowers that wilt with the slightest retaliation. Some can do some real damage if they have the opportunity.

Wow, I cant believe some of the comments in this thread. Women are fragile in comparison to men. You do not hit women period.

Heh

 

[Zen_Arcade]

I agree with her, but only to the point that you use no more force than is necessary to stop the other person's assault on you.

I agree. I'm not going to sit there and get beat on just because it's a woman. There are a lot of women that are bigger then me anyway. I don't want to hurt anyone, but I also don't want to get hurt myself, and sometimes the only way to keep yourself from getting hurt is to fight back.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

She's not right. If you get punched in the side of the face you turn the other cheek. That's what Jesus did.

Then again, Jesus was crucified.

 

[KibblesBits]

You've not seen many real ass beatings have you? The man was barely touched.

Sarcasm. It's a thing.
The whole tone of the post, how did you miss it?

 

[Rubbish King]

lol, women are a lot more durable than you think, breh.

Oh man I remember that, straight up fuckin badass uppercut

 

[Deadstar]

Then again, Jesus was crucified.

Good point.

 

[wildfire]

Wow, I cant believe some of the comments in this thread. Women are fragile in comparison to men. You do not hit women period.

Some? It was most.


Personally I most likely wouldn't hit back because I prefer avoiding physical confrontations but there are circumstances where it is ok.

 

[Nameless]

You can defend yourself, sure, but in most cases a guy fighting a woman full clip is excessive.

 

[entremet]

In theory she's correct. In reality she's not.

The context was the Solange situation. She's absolutely right there. However, JayZ knows cameras are all over, so if he would've retaliated, he would've never let it down, plus sponsorships and what not.

Jay did the right thing although people are questioning his ''manhood''.

 

[Sparkedglory]

Wow, I cant believe some of the comments in this thread. Women are fragile in comparison to men. You do not hit women period.

While I am part of the "you shouldn't hit a woman" side, I do disagree with you. Women aren't made of glass dude. Like others have said just use as much force as necessary.

 

[KibblesBits]

Some? It was most.


Personally I most likely wouldn't hit back because I prefer avoiding physical confrontations but there are circumstances where it is ok.

How are you avoiding the confrontation by not defending yourself? You're already being attacked. How does that work?

 

[BocoDragon]

Any idea that "you can never hit a woman" is the deepest sexism.