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Why are boomers so bad with technology?

greyshark

Member
But many of them are not retired and are in places such as work environments where they are expected to keep up with the latest technology and constantly need helping doing so. It's one thing if you need help. It's another thing to talk trash about younger generations being lazy, useless idiots then needing their help for very basic things a few minutes later.

And speaking of toilet paper, that's such a boomer thing. Everyone younger and hip uses bidets. Get with the times.

Sadly many members of the Gen X, millennial, and zoomer generations were treated shitty by boomers and now have a chip on their sleeve as a result. I will say that I can easily make threads about problems with the other generations because all of them have stupid things about them as well and you're all free to point them out. This one just happens to be about boomers. You all have to admit that there are annoying characteristics that are mostly unique to individual generations. Boomers being bad with technology, millennials being snowflake brats, zoomers being even bigger snowflake brats, etc. Maybe I'm biased because I'm part of Gen X but I can't think of any negative stereotypes about us. Anyone want to help?

This entire thread seems like you’re projecting your own experiences on an entire generation of people. You are using the term “boomer” as a clearly derogatory one - unlike your references to other generations.

Not having an appreciation for what your elders have gone through will make you come off as whiny and entitled.
 

Unk Adams

Banned
I think a lot of it comes from jealousy and entitlement.

Young people think they are so smart being amped up with internet knowledge and knowing how to use tech fast, they think they deserve more and are smarter than everyone else.

Typically when you see anti-boomer arguments it's not even about them being bad parents. Instead there will always be an angle what they got (like a big house they bought for $100k in 1980 that's now worth $1.5M) that anyone raised in 1970 had it easy with jobs and getting rich like it was impossible to fail.

And because mom and dad was able to build up assets buying a home 40 years ago for dirt cheap at 13% mortgage rates, young people expect they can also buy a big family home for cheap too for 3% mortgage rates. They dont want to start small with a condo, or move to a town that has cheap property. They want to buy a home like their parents in metro areas for $200k instead of $1.2M..
I mean, they do have a point.

For years many younger people graduated with more education than their parents and still struggled to find a decent job as they were now competing with thousands of people online for work instead of just locally like their boomer parents did. And have you seen the housing market? It's basically impossible to buy an affordable house in any desirable area of the U.S. right now. If a town in the U.S. has affordable housing right now then that most likely means it only has minimum wage part time jobs without benefits, crime, and addicts hanging out everywhere. Even renting a small condo here in California right now is insane.

This entire thread seems like you’re projecting your own experiences on an entire generation of people. You are using the term “boomer” as a clearly derogatory one - unlike your references to other generations.

Not having an appreciation for what your elders have gone through will make you come off as whiny and entitled.
Ok boomer.
 

greyshark

Member
I mean, they do have a point.

For years many younger people graduated with more education than their parents and still struggled to find a decent job as they were now competing with thousands of people online for work instead of just locally like their boomer parents did. And have you seen the housing market? It's basically impossible to buy an affordable house in any desirable area of the U.S. right now. If a town in the U.S. has affordable housing right now then that most likely means it only has minimum wage part time jobs without benefits, crime, and addicts hanging out everywhere. Even renting a small condo here in California right now is insane.


Ok boomer.

Lol - proving my point with every response in this thread. For the record I am younger than you ;)
 

Hoddi

Member
It has nothing to do with generations. The average person is mostly tech illiterate and it doesn't matter if they're 20 or 60.

Being able to paw at an iPad like a cat when a bird comes on the TV doesn't make you a technician.
 

Tams

Member
I find it ironic when boomers talk about how stupid and selfish the generations after them are yet the second they need help turning on an iPad they run to them for help. One of the most frustrating things is teaching boomers how to use any technology, especially when they talk about everyone being useless brats when many of them would be completely helpless trying to navigate the modern world without the help of younger people.
One glance at TikTok tells you that there are selfish, self-absorbed idiots of all ages.
 

Unk Adams

Banned
I think I've found the source of your chip... You want to live in a desirable area for cheap.
No one ever said that. I stated a fact that any desirable area of the U.S. right now is extremely overpriced. Even areas that aren't desirable are not cheap.

This costs half a million dollars in California in a dangerous neighborhood:

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Where is this cheap housing that StreetsofBeige is talking about that no one wants to move to because they feel entitled only to a mansion?
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
No one ever said that. I stated a fact that any desirable area of the U.S. right now is extremely overpriced. Even areas that aren't desirable are not cheap.

This costs half a million dollars in California in a dangerous neighborhood:

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Where is this cheap housing that StreetsofBeige is talking about that no one wants to move to because they feel entitled only to a mansion?
Your going to pick an extreme like California? I just googled Texas Real Estate and found this in a link. What's wrong with this house in Houston for $300,000?

As people suspect by the nature of your thread, you're broke and dont like it that you cant afford a good place in the metro area you want. If you want it, you got to pay up. Think of it like an auction site. Dont be an entitled person thinking you deserve the best at dirt cheap prices.

If someone cant afford that tiny house in Cali, then move to Houston.


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And if you want to stick to California, here's a nice place in Bakersfield CA that costs $100k less and probably at least double the size of the house you posted.

You're not the only person in the city wanting to buy expensive homes in high demand areas. And don't feel so entitled you can force a home owner to sell it to you at the price only you want to pay.


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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I think I've found the source of your chip... You want to live in a desirable area for cheap.
That's the millennial attitude.

Dirt cheap properties at equally dirt cheap mortgage rates. A core reason why properties were cheap 40 years ago was because mortgage rates were like 14%. Now it's around 3%. Mine is less than 2%. So hey, what goes with low interest rates is high prices. Fair for everyone.

In the past 6 months real estate prices have been surging again, but during that 2017-2020 kind of range, home prices in the Toronto GTA didn't move that much. You could had bought a giant 4 bedroom 4 bath house (relatively newly built too) in Brampton for around $1M. Now it's probably $1.5M. And back in lets say 2013 that same home was probably only $500k. You snooze you lose.

Or, you could buy a downtown condo probably 1/4 the size for the same price. Or if you need to dumb it down, a more modest house for $800,000 and even smaller condo for maybe $500,000.

If I had to buy one, I'd pick the houses. But some people want to be where the action is. So hey, you got to be downtown so you can club it up and hang out at trendy patios every day, downtown is the place to be. Dont complain if you got cramped quarters because for the same price you could be 40 km away with a bigger house and double car garage and yard.
 
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nush

Member
I stated a fact that any desirable area of the U.S. right now is extremely overpriced.

Desirable means more people want to live there, so the price goes up. Supply and demand. Overpriced is only relative to the properties surrounding it, not overpriced because you can't afford it. I didn't get the first house I brought where I wanted to be or even the type of property I wanted, I could only get what I could afford out of what was available at that price point. So I had to settle for that, but it was better to have my own place instead of renting or sharing.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Desirable means more people want to live there, so the price goes up. Supply and demand. Overpriced is only relative to the properties surrounding it, not overpriced because you can't afford it. I didn't get the first house I brought where I wanted to be or even the type of property I wanted, I could only get what I could afford out of what was available at that price point. So I had to settle for that, but it was better to have my own place instead of renting or sharing.
Yup.

My first home I bought was a one bedroom, one bath condo. I think it was 540 sq ft. All I could afford and nowhere near downtown. A suburban condo in a dead zone where like all suburban places you got to get in your car and drive to the nearest strip mall.

As for things being overpriced, as you mentioned it's all relative. Since prices are skyrocketing everywhere well that means it's not overpriced to people who can buy a condo for $500k or a nice home for $1.5M. When 10 years ago, these places were half the price. They seem fine with it so not overpriced to them.

Renting is a waste of time and something my parents always told us. All youre doing is paying off the landlords mortgage. And my dad should know because he was one too.

Only time me or my siblings ever rented was being on campus at university.
 
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nush

Member
My first home I bought was a one bedroom, one bath condo. I think it was 540 sq ft. All I could afford and nowhere near downtown. A suburban condo in a dead zone where like all suburban places you got to get in your car and drive to the nearest strip mall.

Similar for me, two bed mid terrace house on the edge of the city but at least there was a supermarket, convienence store and a pub within walking distance and reasonable bus service. Ten year later what was the edge of the city now looks really close due to how far the urban sprawl when past the house I brought. Looking at it today it's relatively close to the center of the city.
 

BigBooper

Member
You guys don't get it. He desires to live there thus making it desirable. Everywhere else is a bad neighborhood because it's undesirable.
 
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Bojji

Member
It's not that they're bad with it, they just didn't grow up around technology. I work in the school system, a lot of kids can't read an analog clock. they're just less familiar with it, a lot of younger people don't fully understand technology past a basic level.

Fuck me...

Millennial have potential to work the best with both analog world and digital world as technology developed alongside them. I was born in 89 and pretty much had natural evolution from normal cellphones, to Symbian smartphones and Windows/Android smartphones in the end. Same for computers and consoles. I can also change tire, fix electrical stuff etc. So just like I said, potential to mix both worlds.

Smartphones and mobile OSs are stagnant for years and applications are dumb as fuck so it's no wonder that Zoomers are becoming technologically illiterate. My mom (born in 61) had problems with regular cell phone, she never knew how to sens SMS... But with Android phone? She even makes all her bank transfers all by herself every month.

Zoomers are objectively the worst generation for decades and this isn't helping:

 

Unk Adams

Banned
Your average boomer spends his Sunday afternoon ranting about how lazy and worthless the generations after him are while he drinks beer all day long with his gut hanging out while watching football for hours, pays several millenials to mow his lawn while his car is in the shop while a millenial repair man fixes it for him, and yells at his zoomer nephew to help him log into Facebook because he doesn't remember how to. He hates how the younger generation disrespects his elders when back in his day the most popular expression was "don't trust anyone over 30".

He also wonders why zoomers are snowflakes who spend all day looking at a screen when he didn't let his own kids play outside because it's "too dangerous" and instead raised them to look at a TV screen all day. He was also able to raise a family, have a wife, and buy a house with only a high school diploma in a good neighborhood but calls someone with more training and education that him "entitled" because they don't want to buy a shack in California for $500,000. He also denies that the world has changed at all during all of the years that have passed and he was successful not because of the good situation he was born into, but because he's an amazing person.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Your average boomer spends his Sunday afternoon ranting about how lazy and worthless the generations after him are while he drinks beer all day long with his gut hanging out while watching football for hours, pays several millenials to mow his lawn while his car is in the shop while a millenial repair man fixes it for him, and yells at his zoomer nephew to help him log into Facebook because he doesn't remember how to. He hates how the younger generation disrespects his elders when back in his day the most popular expression was "don't trust anyone over 30".

He also wonders why zoomers are snowflakes who spend all day looking at a screen when he didn't let his own kids play outside because it's "too dangerous" and instead raised them to look at a TV screen all day. He was also able to raise a family, have a wife, and buy a house with only a high school diploma in a good neighborhood but calls someone with more training and education that him "entitled" because they don't want to buy a shack in California for $500,000. He also denies that the world has changed at all during all of the years that have passed and he was successful not because of the good situation he was born into, but because he's an amazing person.
It's ok dude.

You hate boomers who are basically at retirement age and feel you're entitled to the same thing at age 25.

I've said this many times on GAF.... don't worry what others do in life. Focus on your own. Complaining about a bunch of 68 year old retirees who grinded through life deserves to chill out and watch football.

Millennials and Zoomers have done hardly anything in life compared to Boomers. A portion of them are still living at home. So dont expect the same stuff at half or 1/3rd the age.

Leave the entitled youngster ego at the door.
 
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Unk Adams

Banned
It's ok dude.

You hate boomers who are basically at retirement age and feel you're entitled to the same thing at age 25.

I've said this many times on GAF.... don't worry what others do in life. Focus on your own. Complaining about a bunch of 68 year old retirees who grinded through life deserves to chill out and watch football.

Millennials and Zoomers have done hardly anything in life compared to Boomers. So dont expect the same stuff at half or 1/3rd the age.
I really don't hate boomers, though. I don't hate any group of people. Just like any generation they have good and bad things about them. I'm just pointing out some of the negative characteristics I've noticed about many of them. If you want we can easily get into the bad things about millennials and zoomers, too. The weird thing about Gen X is that I've noticed that they seem to be the most reasonable out all of the groups that I've mentioned on average. They didn't have all of the advantages boomers had but they also don't have the poor social skills and fragility of millennials and zoomers.
 
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greyshark

Member
Your average boomer spends his Sunday afternoon ranting about how lazy and worthless the generations after him are while he drinks beer all day long with his gut hanging out while watching football for hours, pays several millenials to mow his lawn while his car is in the shop while a millenial repair man fixes it for him, and yells at his zoomer nephew to help him log into Facebook because he doesn't remember how to. He hates how the younger generation disrespects his elders when back in his day the most popular expression was "don't trust anyone over 30".

He also wonders why zoomers are snowflakes who spend all day looking at a screen when he didn't let his own kids play outside because it's "too dangerous" and instead raised them to look at a TV screen all day. He was also able to raise a family, have a wife, and buy a house with only a high school diploma in a good neighborhood but calls someone with more training and education that him "entitled" because they don't want to buy a shack in California for $500,000. He also denies that the world has changed at all during all of the years that have passed and he was successful not because of the good situation he was born into, but because he's an amazing person.

That is an awfully specific story for an “average” person. Are you sure you weren’t thinking of someone specifically when you wrote this?
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I really don't hate boomers, though. I don't hate any group of people. Just like any generation they have good and bad things about them. I'm just pointing out some of the negative characteristics I've noticed about many of them. If you want we can easily get into the bad things about millennials and zoomers, too. The weird thing about Gen X is that I've noticed that they seem to be the most reasonable out all of the groups that I've mentioned on average. They didn't have all of the advantages boomers had but they also don't have the poor social skills and fragility of millennials and zoomers.
You sure seem you dont like them.

Boomers are basically grandparent age compared to Millennials and Zoomers. Why you criticize and compare seniors to people 2-3 steps away in generations is a pretty odd thing to do.

I get it. You're jealous and keep bringing up tiny California houses costs $500,000, even though I showed you you can get nicer and cheaper homes in other parts of Cali or Houston. But your argument is wanting to buy in that part of Cali for $500,000 which going by the listing is a rip off for what you get. That doesnt mean the rest of the world is. Not even the rest of Cali.

My parents are actually born in the Silent Generation. I didn't even know that label existed until I found this chart. Now if you really want to complain about older generations you focus your attention on that one. That's the one where they grew up or born during WWII, immigrated to other countries with absolutely nothing (skills or money) and with some hard work did great setting the foundation for the family tree decades later. Silent Generation did a lot with so little it makes Boomers pale in comparison.

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Still have relatives that use a VCR to record Price is Right and Wheel of Fortune. So yeah…I cringe at the thought of getting them a smart phone for the holidays. But they do have interesting stories of The Great Depression and Kennedy being shot so we got lots to talk about 😄
 

mxbison

Member
Because everything new is stupid and bad.

Just look at the dumbass millenials. Spending all their money on Netflix and Starbucks when they could just buy a house instead.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
You do realize that many of these “ boomers” are the people who invented the technology you are so savvy in.

Stop generalizing things into black and white groups.
 

mxbison

Member
Saving for things instead of consooming? What kind of boomer thinking is this?

Yeah because boomers didn't go to restaurants or on vacation. I know lot's of older folks who lived a comfortable life with a house, wife, and two kids while working for standard wage at a factory.

Not sure why some are so hellbent on defending the shitty situation that many people are in right now. Guess it's the thing with middle class resenting the struggling class to feel better about themselves.
 

nush

Member
Yeah because boomers didn't go to restaurants or on vacation. I know lot's of older folks who lived a comfortable life with a house, wife, and two kids while working for standard wage at a factory.

Not sure why some are so hellbent on defending the shitty situation that many people are in right now. Guess it's the thing with middle class resenting the struggling class to feel better about themselves.

Wait. You were serious?

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Mattyp

Not the YouTuber
The same reasons the majority of Zoomers have no idea how to code, even understand basic code, or repair a database or actually fix something completely fucked in IT if apple restore doesn’t fix it.

What do you mean I can’t just touch my iPad and all computers link together again across multiple sites? Bing bing wahhooo ohhhh no.

Teens today honestly have no idea how to fix anything in IT that doesn’t fix itself. Look I built a colour coded computer! Fuck me slow clap.

(Not even a boomer but Zoomers are retarded at tech)
 

greyshark

Member
Yeah because boomers didn't go to restaurants or on vacation. I know lot's of older folks who lived a comfortable life with a house, wife, and two kids while working for standard wage at a factory.

Not sure why some are so hellbent on defending the shitty situation that many people are in right now. Guess it's the thing with middle class resenting the struggling class to feel better about themselves.

Let’s take a step back in time to this “easy street” known as the baby boomer generation.

You’re 18 years old - time to register for the draft! Wait, it’s not some meaningless form to fill out you never have to think about again? You have to go to Vietnam with minimal training to fight a war for seemingly no reason? WTF

It’s the Cold War! There’s multiple events over your lifetime where one of the world’s superpowers has threatened to wipe you off the face of the planet. You school has you run drills to protect you against nuclear attack (lol). Hope that makes you feel better about the never ending tension in your life!

Are you a minority? Good luck finding a job, a house, or even a restaurant that will serve you! People will literally fight you over getting basic rights like this your entire youth.

I think a lot of this resentment and bitterness would be lessened if you took the time to understand that no one has truly had it easy. Blaming others for your misfortunes may be cathartic but it just encourages hatred. No one is trying to invalidate your struggles.
 

mxbison

Member
Let’s take a step back in time to this “easy street” known as the baby boomer generation.

You’re 18 years old - time to register for the draft! Wait, it’s not some meaningless form to fill out you never have to think about again? You have to go to Vietnam with minimal training to fight a war for seemingly no reason? WTF

It’s the Cold War! There’s multiple events over your lifetime where one of the world’s superpowers has threatened to wipe you off the face of the planet. You school has you run drills to protect you against nuclear attack (lol). Hope that makes you feel better about the never ending tension in your life!

Are you a minority? Good luck finding a job, a house, or even a restaurant that will serve you! People will literally fight you over getting basic rights like this your entire youth.

I think a lot of this resentment and bitterness would be lessened if you took the time to understand that no one has truly had it easy. Blaming others for your misfortunes may be cathartic but it just encourages hatred. No one is trying to invalidate your struggles.

I'm not struggling, I'm just not one of these people who likes to look down on others to feel better about themselves. Talking about how a burger flipper should be struggling because he isn't a skilled worker and all that shit.

And all of those things you said really have nothing to do with how criminally underpaid a lot of people are nowadays.
 

hollams

Gold Member
I bought my Dad, 85, an iPad 10 years ago and he never touched it for about 2 years then all of a sudden he decided he wanted to learn how to use it and since then he is on it 8 hours a day. He may have gotten a bit too obsessed with it, but I think it really helped him mentally. As my parents are getting older I always worried about Alzheimer's since my grandmother had it before they knew what it was and I believe by using it and learning knew things it no doubt helped.
 

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
For boomers everything was analog and then became digital. Many of the Gen x went through the transition young and had no fear of the digital age. Our boomer parents saw digital as their kids thing and preferred doing it the way they knew how to. Gen x grew up in it and adapted.
 
I find it ironic when boomers talk about how stupid and selfish the generations after them are yet the second they need help turning on an iPad they run to them for help. One of the most frustrating things is teaching boomers how to use any technology, especially when they talk about everyone being useless brats when many of them would be completely helpless trying to navigate the modern world without the help of younger people.
It’s weird, their generation is the one who invented all this shit.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Yeah because boomers didn't go to restaurants or on vacation. I know lot's of older folks who lived a comfortable life with a house, wife, and two kids while working for standard wage at a factory.

Not sure why some are so hellbent on defending the shitty situation that many people are in right now. Guess it's the thing with middle class resenting the struggling class to feel better about themselves.
Some of them did. But not at the same extent as modern day millennials blowing their money.

A lot of young people now aim for nice cars (BMWs in their 20s or early 30s) and trips twice a year. That was a rare thing 40 years ago when boomers were early in their careers. Living it up is when you had a lot of money saved when mom and dad had cash from saving at age 45+. Thats when the expensive cars were bought.

There is no way a modern day millennial or zoomer spends their cash more wisely than someone from the 80s.

The key difference is people in the 80s funneled their money to buy a house at 14% interest rates. But whoever did and plowed through it has an asset worth a lot of money. Other fancy stuff were secondary.

Young people now would rather spend first on "chill out and hang out" stuff killing their wallets, so buying a home is more difficult. They spend their money on depreciating assets, with a home secondary. I know/knew coworkers who wre relative young (millennial age) who still rented a pricey condos and had high end cars. They could afford it because at age 30 they were making probably $80000 + bonus. That's their choice. But dont complain you cant afford to buy a condo and everyone else from years back is raking in the asset value owning. They sure can. But that would mean buying a shittier condo in the burbs and not buying an Audi. Its one of the other at that stage of their career and they choose the Audi and slick rental condo.
 
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greyshark

Member
I'm not struggling, I'm just not one of these people who likes to look down on others to feel better about themselves. Talking about how a burger flipper should be struggling because he isn't a skilled worker and all that shit.

And all of those things you said really have nothing to do with how criminally underpaid a lot of people are nowadays.

I 100% agree that you should not tear others down to make yourself feel better. My reply was not intending to minimize the struggles of the current generation. I was trying to highlight that the past generations also had their own struggles.

We are all in this together - the more we work together instead of finger pointing the better off we all will be.
 

Sakura

Member
From my experience young people are pretty bad with technology too.
Kids these days seem to be getting worse at using computers because all they use are smartphones. I've talked to a number of people 18 to 20 years or so who said they were no good at using computers and didn't like to have use keyboards to type up documents and stuff, instead preferring to use a smartphone.
It all depends on what you are growing up with, and spending all your time with.
 

zeorhymer

Member
I've met a ton of non boomers who didn't know tech. A lot of kids aren't learning how to write anymore. It just depends on what tools people use most often.
 

nush

Member
For boomers everything was analog and then became digital. Many of the Gen x went through the transition young and had no fear of the digital age. Our boomer parents saw digital as their kids thing and preferred doing it the way they knew how to. Gen x grew up in it and adapted.

Even now only former Gen X kids can program a VCR.
 

nightfly

Member
Speaking of generations, why is Gen X rarely gets talked about? Everyone talks about the boomers, millenials and even zoomers but gen x seems to be in a weird spot.
 
Are we talking boomers as in actual baby boomers? They didn't grow up with it and it's not designed by people like them. What seems 'obvious' to someone in their 20s can seem obtuse to someone in their 60s. I already see it creeping in when I use something like Windows 11 and think 'why the fuck would you put that option there?'
Isn't that the reaction that has anyone who use Windows 11?
 
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