Why are there no DK references in Jungle Beat?

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TheTurtleTitan

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Being a fan of the DKC series, I am looking mighty forward to Jungle Beat coming in these next few days. I'm glad the series is to going back to its fast-paced 2D roots. But you know, as I look at the previews and movies, I've been wondering. Where the hell are the other parts of the series? Here are the things that I'm realizing about the game.

1) No other Kongs. There is an entire Kong Family to cover. Diddy Kong (my personal favorite), Dixie (who still hasn't had a 3D adventure), Cranky, Funky, the whole gang. I always liked the whole family in the series. But in Jungle Beat, there is literally no supporting cast. Just Donkey Kong himself. Couldn't they be the monkeys that DK is trying to rescue (rather than those white-colored monkeys)?

2) No Kremlings. Or K. Rool. The crocodile people are the main villians of the series. They are like the Koopas of the DK series. And I was hoping they would have some sort of role in this, seeing how they are the Kongs' arch-enemys and such. Maybe they could've replaced those KISS-type Kongs with tough Kremlings or something? I mean, they are in Mario Power Tennis, but not this?

3) No Reoccuring Animal Buddies. No Rambi, no Enguarde, no Squwaks or Expresso, nada. Well, we do have animal buddies in this game, but...they are exactly the same as the old ones anyway! That ram you ride in the snow levels? Could've easily been Rambi. Those parrots that you ride throughout the levels? Could've easily been Squwaks. Eh, couldn't they have just used them instead?

Basically, everyone in the DKC series is absent from this game. But not just that, most of these characters in the game could've just as easily been in place of others. Konga was a completely different game, but at least it still had some staple characters through the series. If this is the Donkey Kong game for the Cube, then just why are these characters not in them? It just seems incredibly odd that they are leaving them out. And if this new studio keeps producing the main DK games, they may never show up again! Did anyone else notice this?

Well......at least the game will be fun, eh? :D
 
Because it's not a donkey kong country game. I'm not sure who it was, but there was an interview in it with one of the devolpers/producers. Basically he was saying that there was no storyline to the game other than the fact that it's Donkey Kong running around the jungle and beating up on all of the other challengers to his "King of Kings" title. Just an excuse to have a kickass gameplay experience, and nothing more. I've read somewhere that Nintendo, or at least Miyamoto was not entirely pleased with the direction Rare had brought Donkey Kong in, and this is kind of them taking it in an opposite direction.
 
Because pretending those games never existed is the first step on the road to restoring DK's dignity?
ImNotLikeThem said:
there was no storyline to the game other than the fact that it's Donkey Kong running around the jungle and beating up on all of the other challengers to his "King of Kings" title.
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Excuse me, but I believe he was saving his bananas.
 
Gaia Theory said:
To all those things you feel are missing - GOOD RIDDANCE I SAY!
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Indeed. Cranky Kong and Funky Kong are the only ones I miss, didn't really like any of the others that much in all honesty.
 
Yeesh, am I the only one who actually cares about the previous characters? New characters are fine and dandy, but I hope at least the fifth-wall breaking Cranky Kong pops up in Jungle Beat 2 or something.
 
It would have been cool to have Diddy in there as an alternate character. Other than Donkey, he's the only Kong I really care for.

Also, I think there is some music from DKC in there.
 
AndoCalrissian said:
Also, I think there is some music from DKC in there.
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yup, theres some remixed DKC music. The only thing i recognized right off the bat is the first song, but there may be others i didn't catch. Hell i dont even have all the levels unlocked yet :(
 
Cranky and, to a lesser extent, Diddy are about the only good things to come from Rare's time with DK. While I wouldn't object to having other DKC stuff in Jungle Beat, I'm perfectly happy with it being missing.

I'm reminded of the time the DKC community of fans got angry over this page.
 
Red Scarlet said:
Didn't Rare make those? That'd probably be why, no?
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Nope.

the characters Rare created are clear extensions of the Donkey Kong brand, which is owned by Nintendo. Therefore, the kongs are ALL owned by Nintendo.

Characters like Tip Tup or Conker in Diddy Kong Racing who clearly aren't extensions of the kong family belong to Rare.

However. that one kremlin racer you have in DKR, don't remember his name, belongs to nintendo, I believe. As does Diddy
 
Jungle Beat takes place prior to any of the DKC games. So no Diddy, no Rambi, and no Kremlings. This DK is the original DK, before he became known as Cranky Kong and the other DK took his place. The original DK proves all his rantings by being in a game that, not only needs no story, but only requires 3 "buttons" and is still better than any of those Rare DK games.
 
JJConrad said:
Jungle Beat takes place prior to any of the DKC games. So no Diddy, no Rambi, and no Kremlings. This DK is the original DK, before he became known as Cranky Kong and the other DK took his place. The original DK proves all his rantings by being in a game that, not only needs no story, but only requires 3 "buttons" and is still better than any of those Rare DK games.
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i like your thinking.
 
TheTurtleTitan said:
Basically, everyone in the DKC series is absent from this game.
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TheTurtleTitan said:
Yeesh, am I the only one who actually cares about the previous characters?
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I hope so. They suck SO hard.

Stanley from DK3 rocks, though, as does the original Donkey Kong Jr. I say bring'm on back!
 
TheTurtleTitan said:
Yeesh, am I the only one who actually cares about the previous characters? New characters are fine and dandy, but I hope at least the fifth-wall breaking Cranky Kong pops up in Jungle Beat 2 or something.
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Did Cranky get a job at the Pentagon?
 
Dujour said:
How? What the... I thought cranky was the original DK and DK Jr was the sap in DCK. :/
Doesn't in show that in the very beginning of DKC?
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It's complicated.

Essentially, multiple DKC games refer to Cranky as DK's grandfather... they also say that DKC is DK's first game.

Tied into that is the fact that the current DK is a very different design from DK Jr., who has already been seen in adult form (Super Mario Kart, Mario Tennis for Virtual Boy, etc..)

The most logical conclusion is that the DK in DKC is the son of DK Jr. (or the son of some other son of "Cranky").

Nintendo seems to have pretty much ignored this and just gone with the current DK model for all forms of DK, but it is helpful to point out that even the Japanese DKC manual refers to Cranky both the original DK and DK's grandfather.

If you're really bored, there's a little page about this over on TMK.
 
Cranky Kong is the original DK. DK Jr is his son, and the current Donkey Kong's father. Cranky is always referred to as DK's grandfather, so..well yeah, there ya go. :)

Edit: Damn! David got it first, and more elaborate. Shucks.
 
bobbyconover said:
I hope so. They suck SO hard.
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But the thing is, at least the DKC games had a variety of characters. Wheras Jungle Beat has no supporting characters at all. I hope they at least start adding, y'know, other characters that DK can interact with, like the DKC games. I mean, it would be like having a Mario game where Yoshi, Peach, and Bowser were completely absent from the game.
 
Sorry to bump again, but was it ever mentioned why Nintendo Tokyo didn't put any previous DKC characters in this game (like in an interview)? Did they just not like them? Or did they just forget about them while developing? It's not like Nintendo to get rid of its own already introduced supporting characters.
 
JJConrad said:
Jungle Beat takes place prior to any of the DKC games. So no Diddy, no Rambi, and no Kremlings. This DK is the original DK, before he became known as Cranky Kong and the other DK took his place. The original DK proves all his rantings by being in a game that, not only needs no story, but only requires 3 "buttons" and is still better than any of those Rare DK games.
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Weird
 
There was never any explanation from what I've seen. They haven't completely forgotten the other characters though when you consider that they have published GBA ports of the DKC games and Diddy was in Donkey Konga.

You should also consider that Jungle Beat has no story to speak of. What reason would there be to have Donkey Kong interact with the others?
 
TheTurtleTitan said:
Wasn't Jungle Beat's story something about resucing those white monkeys by defeating those other tough gorillas or something?
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There's literally no story. No cutscenes or even a blurb in the instruction book. The game is a throwback to arcade style games in that sense.
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but when I play a DK game, I want to play as DK.

Nintendo gets major, major props from me for doing away with any and all ties to the Rare-developed titles for Jungle Beat.
 
Spike said:
I don't know about the rest of you, but when I play a DK game, I want to play as DK.

Nintendo gets major, major props from me for doing away with any and all ties to the Rare-developed titles for Jungle Beat.
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Well, it would just be harder for me, since I've kind of grown on the other characters since 1994.
 
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