Why are you so boring? (to Tabris)

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Of course I'm a tourist. Why would I want to live in Vegas? Vegas off the strip is gross.

Vegas is an adult playground you experience for a weekend.

Have you actually been off strip with people who live there? There are plenty of amazing places off the tourist trap row.
 
I genuinely hope this is just an elaborate parody thread or straight troll job by Tabris. Because if what he's saying is actually all true, then I feel bad for him. This is straight up some Barney Stinson-type stuff that it's so cartoonish.

I take no issue in anything he typed out in terms of having fun, but to dismiss people with children so easily with such arrogance is just terrible.

In HIMYM, Barney didn't really get a lot of attention from his parents (dad was gone, mom wasn't always focused on him). I think I'm sensing the same with Tabris.

Not enough friends who want to hang out with him on his terms and doesn't value friendships enough to make a compromise or sacrifice once in a while, so he has to resort to hoping to entertain strangers. Reminds me of the lonely guy at the bar, who would randomly talk to anybody to be reminded that he's alive.

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Acting like a tourist in Vegas is boring. You're boring. Your friends are boring. Your stories bore people like me, those that are not boring.

But bro, he's got the wickedest puking story!!!!!!!!!

His stories are all boring shit high schoolers tell each other so someone will pay attention to them.
 
Hey now, there's nothing wrong with Ray-Ban.

I don't own Ray-Ban. I have Dolce & Gabbana and Randolph Engineers.

Acting like a tourist in Vegas is boring. You're boring. Your friends are boring. Your stories bore people like me, those that are not boring.

Some of my friends who are now new parents, yup, thus the thread!

yeah you dont get it OP and nobody will make you understand. also we dont become boring, you just dont care what they are into. having a child is a huge and challenging adventure and it consumes your life

My point is for a lot of these new parents is they consume their personality too and they are just a fraction of the person they were.
 
You'll never understand untill you have a kid.
yeah you dont get it OP and nobody will make you understand. also we dont become boring, you just dont care what they are into. having a child is a huge and challenging adventure and it consumes your life
 
My point is for a lot of these new parents is they consume their personality too and they are just a fraction of the person they were.
People change. Staying the same over your whole life is not normal. Whether you are liking those changes is a different issue, but they are not less of a person for it. Find new friends if you feel like you're losing your connection to your current ones.
 
"Dolche and Gabana"? You're better than that, Tabris.

Also, check out Encore Beach Club if you haven't already. That's a fun party.
 
People change. Staying the same over your whole life is not normal. Whether you are liking those changes is a different issue, but they are not less of a person for it. Find new friends if you feel like you're losing your connection to your current ones.

I don't think it's just change, it's a diminishing because you are giving that for your child and they don't understand how to balance it until their children are older. Here was a better summary posted by chiliboy.

Sir, I think I understand your position. I have some co-workers who have young children and they are really boring to talk to. They have lost their identity as a person and are mostly focused on their kids or on which beer they are going to drink on their friday night evening dinner with the family. It doesn't get much more deeper than that.

"Dolche and Gabana"? You're better than that, Tabris.

Sorry, I meant Dolce and Gabbana.
 
Your friends already hung out at bars and picked up women. How much of that do you need until that becomes boring?

You're friends have not become boring, they've moved on to the next chapter of their lives (which might I add is far less boring and far more fulfilling).
 
The funny thing about all of this is it's my new parent friends who invite me to a bar for a beer (in which they can only stay for a couple) when they aren't inviting me and girlfriend over for dinner parties or game nights. I'm not the one proposing the bar, since I think it's a bit pointless to only go out for a couple of beers.

Also I'll ad that you have more than 20,000 posts on GAF, so your life can't be that exciting.

Oh wow I'm over 20k. I'm past that too as I posted on GAF before then. That's crazy. I post on GAF while working, whether on my current startup idea or just my normal job. It's a nice small break in between things.

Now you want to go to game night and dinner parties?

No, the opposite. It's boring. But you go to keep up with the friends you have that have become boring because you care about them.
 
The funny thing about all of this is it's my new parent friends who invite me to a bar for a beer (in which they can only stay for a couple) when they aren't inviting me and girlfriend over for dinner parties or game nights.
Now you want to go to game night and dinner parties?
 
I don't think it's just change, it's a diminishing because you are giving that for your child and they don't understand how to balance it until their children are older. Here was a better summary posted by chiliboy.

Sorry, I meant Dolce and Gabbana.
It isn't a question of understanding balance. Children are chaos and simply require that level of investment if you're anything of a parent. It's natural to be consumed by them once they're in the picture; that's pretty standard.

Even if you took money out of the equation, you'd still have a huge energy deficit due to the lack of sleep. Anyone with a baby or toddler isn't going to have it in them to party; you're talking about a situation where one hour of peace and quiet is a luxury, so getting tanked and pulling all-nighters is understandably not very appealing.

There's also such a thing as getting attached, because early on you will play a huge factor in their success in life. It seems both logical and healthy to prioritize your child for the first few years at least.

So yeah, they're boring now, but it's more by necessity than by choice.

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Vegas is basically the worst place in the world. You left out inhaling six tons of cigarette smoke in literally every place you go. You left out being surrounded by drunk or high people trying to interact with you. You left out paying six bucks for water and waiting for a large enough crowd to gather that you can cross the street without being killed. And, I mean, that's all leaving out the fact that Vegas literally exists to be the world's longest running confidence game. You would probably have a better chance in any other place than Las Vegas.
Weird, I've never had this experience. The nicer hotels are all very well ventilated to the point where someone can be smoking a few feet away and you can't even smell it. I can see this being an issue in some of the seedier hotels, though.

The water situation can be easily remedied with a trip to CVS, of which there are several on the strip that are just regular price (like $3 for 4L).
 
You don't like pools surrounded by hot women (or men)?

Sure, whatever. I grew up in Hawaii. I'm not, like, intrinsically excited by the idea of being in water.

You don't like relaxing in the sun against your face?

Not in the fucking desert, no.

You don't like getting dressed up?

I mean, not as an event in itself, no, like, I'm not a doll. I put on a suit when I'm going to an appropriate event, sure, but I don't pretend it's a big exciting deal. I look good either way.

You don't like dancing?

Sure, dancing is fine. I've done a lot of dancing in my life.

You don't like cirque du soleil (especially the adult version) or going to some musical act?

Like I said, I like Cirque de Soleil.

You don't like going shopping?

No. Who the fuck likes going shopping? Amazon literally built a multi-billion dollar business on the back of the fact that people hate going shopping.

You don't like thrill rides on top of a building?

No, that sounds awful.

You don't like talking with new people from other countries?

In general, talking with strangers is not something I'd classify as a highlight of my life. Obviously sometimes you meet cool people and form friendships. But there's also the chance to meet a crazy person who wants to spend the next hour talking about fluoridation. If I'm meeting this person at a club in Vegas, I definitely have a theory as to which is more likely.

You don't like gambling?

Jesus, no. Roller coasters and gambling. Do you have an impulse control problem?

You don't like getting amped and staying amped?

I'm not even sure what you mean by this. In general, I like to do activities I can remember afterwards.

I know for sure I could ensure everyone here had a blast in Vegas.

Vegas is basically the worst place in the world. You left out inhaling six tons of cigarette smoke in literally every place you go. You left out being surrounded by drunk or high people trying to interact with you. You left out paying six bucks for water and waiting for a large enough crowd to gather that you can cross the street without being killed. And, I mean, that's all leaving out the fact that Vegas literally exists to be the world's longest running confidence game. You would probably have a better chance in any other place than Las Vegas.
 
Re shopping in Vegas; it's pretty lacklusterIMO. The buys at barneys etc are pretty bland for the most part. Everything else is just $$ diarrhea. Save maybe Kiki DM.

Anyway my kids are done with their bath so I have to get them dressed and ready to be boring with relatives today. Xoxo gaf. 👌🏻
 
My point is for a lot of these new parents is they consume their personality too and they are just a fraction of the person they were.

Yeah, because they have a new part of their lives which has changed their personality. Is it difficult to understand that raising a human being becomes something they think and talk about more often than singing karaoke with strangers at a bar.

Surprise, surprise, there's a lot to talk about regarding being a parent. They might seem less interesting to you because they don't talk to you about that whole new side of their lives, since you're not a parent and you can't relate with them.

They probably have a lot to talk about with other parents and ....grown-ups.
 
After reading some of OPs answers, it seems the problem is that OP is a wannabe teenager without responsibilities and afraid of commitment. I'd rather be a parent, thanks.
 
While I don't agree with OPs idea of fun - seriously guy, shopping? Are you a middle aged housewife? - I do agree that new parents are insufferably boring.
Especially those who are full time mothers/fathers. They're the worst. I could not give two shits about your baby, or indeed any baby. I'm too busy living my life to devote it to someone else who's too young to even appreciate it.
 
People actually go to vegas to go.... shopping? Maybe it's because I live in a real city (since apparently vancouver isn't one) but I don't jump for joy at the idea of flying hundreds of miles just to buy the same shit I could buy a block from my apartment... Seems like a weird selling point to go to Vegas.
 
yeah you dont get it OP and nobody will make you understand. also we dont become boring, you just dont care what they are into. having a child is a huge and challenging adventure and it consumes your life

Yup, and OP is talking about when parents just sit around and talk about their kids. That's the boring thing, they have very little else to talk about. They just show you pictures and usually don't have much input besides that. I understand that having children is a huge commitment, OP is asking why that makes you unable to talk about anything else once you reproduce.

Your friends already hung out at bars and picked up women. How much of that do you need until that becomes boring?

You're friends have not become boring, they've moved on to the next chapter of their lives (which might I add is far less boring and far more fulfilling).

Stop being condescending, having kids == growing up. Many people stop partying and trying to pick up one night stands and still are interesting to talk to. Stop getting so defensive, parents are boring because all they want to talk about when they are hanging with their friends are their kids. It doesn't matter the activity, they just refocus the conversation on their kid. I've even had strippers do it to me mid-lap dance.

To me as a parent, you're the boring guy, and my kid is the best thing that happened in my entire life.

Nu-uh, you're boring!

Maybe your kid is rubbing off on you, you sound an awful lot like one yourself.
 
People actually go to vegas to go.... shopping? Maybe it's because I live in a real city (since apparently vancouver isn't one) but I don't jump for joy at the idea of flying hundreds of miles just to buy the same shit I could buy a block from my apartment... Seems like a weird selling point to go to Vegas.

You're just clearly not AMPED enough breh
 
Gotta love how Tabris puts himself out there lol.

Many OPs just disappear when bombarded with retorts.

Why would he run? He posts for the sole purpose of jumping up and down to get attention regardless of whether it's good or bad. I mean that's the only reason you make a thread to awkwardly post pictures of a bed you supposedly had sex in.

You're just clearly not AMPED enough breh

If shopping at high end stores is being AMPED then my ex-gfs were some of the most AMPED and dynamic people in the entire world.
 
Yup, and OP is talking about when parents just sit around and talk about their kids. That's the boring thing, they have very little else to talk about. They just show you pictures and usually don't have much input besides that. I understand that having children is a huge commitment, OP is asking why that makes you unable to talk about anything else once you reproduce.

I mean, I don't have this problem? Me and my friends talk about the exact same geek stuff we used to talk about without kids. We just also talk about kids.

What kind of stuff did you used to talk about that you no longer talk about? Maybe you guys just never had anything to talk about and it took you this long to notice.

It doesn't matter the activity, they just refocus the conversation on their kid. I've even had strippers do it to me mid-lap dance.

I'm pretty busy with family stuff today and don't have time to find the appropriate reaction gif for this, but please just assume I inserted one.
 
Yup, and OP is talking about when parents just sit around and talk about their kids. That's the boring thing, they have very little else to talk about. They just show you pictures and usually don't have much input besides that. I understand that having children is a huge commitment, OP is asking why that makes you unable to talk about anything else once you reproduce.



Stop being condescending, having kids == growing up. Many people stop partying and trying to pick up one night stands and still are interesting to talk to. Stop getting so defensive, parents are boring because all they want to talk about when they are hanging with their friends are their kids. It doesn't matter the activity, they just refocus the conversation on their kid. I've even had strippers do it to me mid-lap dance.



Nu-uh, you're boring!

Maybe your kid is rubbing off on you, you sound an awful lot like one yourself.

The hell kind of rundown strip clubs do you go to? Do you still have both of your kidneys?
 
Yup, and OP is talking about when parents just sit around and talk about their kids. That's the boring thing, they have very little else to talk about. They just show you pictures and usually don't have much input besides that. I understand that having children is a huge commitment, OP is asking why that makes you unable to talk about anything else once you reproduce.

Makes me appreciate my friends with kids a bit more. They're still capable of carrying on an interesting conversation because they never were the types to talk only about themselves. So, #notallparents and all that.

LOL @ the stripper. Ain't nobody got time for that.
 
Stop being condescending, having kids == growing up. Many people stop partying and trying to pick up one night stands and still are interesting to talk to. Stop getting so defensive, parents are boring because all they want to talk about when they are hanging with their friends are their kids. It doesn't matter the activity, they just refocus the conversation on their kid. I've even had strippers do it to me mid-lap dance.

I'll stop being condescending if you stop making generalizations.
 
It isn't actually I was just defending the fact it's a valid argument as the most important thing a human can do.

I'm sorry but no it's not. In order to preserve the human species from disappearing, there is no need that all the humans that are currently alive procreate. There is only the need that some of them do so. In the grand scheme of things, the number of humans alive on the planet doesn't need to grow indefinitely, it's not better or worse. There is just the need of enough humans currently living.

I'm someone who doesn't want to have kids. For multiple intricate complex reasons. And i'm fed up being told that my life is less valid, or less fullfilled, or I have less value than someone who procreates because that's the utimate goal of life and it is the only way to be complete (like it's the only way to platinum a life...).

I have friends who have kids. They got what they desire. They are happy. I'm happy for them. I like their kids, they're cool human beings and I'm interested in what they will become when growing up.

But, no, childless people can contribute equally to human society than others. I teach in a university, I think teaching useful skills to people is not an invalid way to contribute to the society. I have also other hobbies and activities and i've decided to fully invest my time in them. Sorry, but to say that i'm "less" a human than others because I don't have a kid, it's insulting. At least, i'm doing it by choice, but for the countless people who can't have kids, I think it's nauseating to think that way.

And please, spare me the argument like: "but if everyone were thinking like you and behaving like you, the human species will cease to exist, so my biologiccal argument is still a valid one!". No it's not, because it's an absurd hypothesis to begin with. In real life, this has a very low likelihood of happening. Never in the course of human history people will wake up and decide to not have kids anymore. So let the childless people remain childless people quietly and stop saying they will never achieve the ultimate goal of life.
 
I'm sorry but no it's not. In order to preserve the human species from disappearing, there is no need that all the humans that are currently alive procreate. There is only the need that some of them do so. In the grand scheme of things, the number of humans alive on the planet doesn't need to grow indefinitely, it's not better or worse. There is just the need of enough humans currently living.

I'm someone who doesn't want to have kids. For multiple intricate complex reasons. And i'm fed up being told that my life is less valid, or less fullfilled, or I have less value than someone who procreates because that's the utimate goal of life and it is the only way to be complete (like it's the only way to platinum a life...).

I have friends who have kids. They got what they desire. They are happy. I'm happy for them. I like their kids, they're cool human beings and I'm interested in what they will become when growing up.

But, no, childless people can contribute equally to human society than others. I teach in a university, I think teaching useful skills to people is not an invalid way to contribute to the society. I have also other hobbies and activities and i've decided to fully invest my time in them. Sorry, but to say that i'm "less" a human than others because I don't have a kid, it's insulting. At least, i'm doing it by choice, but for the countless people who can't have kids, I think it's nauseating to think that way.

And please, spare me the argument like: "but if everyone were thinking like you and behaving like you, the human species will cease to exist, so my biologiccal argument is still a valid one!". No it's not, because it's an absurd hypothesis to begin with. In real life, this has a very low likelihood of happening. Never in the course of human history people will wake up and decide to not have kids anymore. So let the childless people remain childless people quietly and stop saying they will never achieve the ultimate goal of life.

Really can't say enough how much I like this post. Yes, I have kids but I hate it when people think that's the be all and end all. It's great for me, but that's just for me and my wife.
 
It takes all kinds. Parents (who think they're above kid-less subhumans) can be as insufferable as someone who travels all the time and brags about how it's the best lifestyle or how liberating it is to be a nomad and not be tied down by kids. And I say this as someone who adores travelling and who would be jealous of someone who was able to travel a lot if I had kids. Get off your high horse, people. The only thing all these people could agree on is pointing and laughing at the Vegas lifestyle.
 
I mean, I don't have this problem? Me and my friends talk about the exact same geek stuff we used to talk about without kids. We just also talk about kids.

What kind of stuff did you used to talk about that you no longer talk about? Maybe you guys just never had anything to talk about and it took you this long to notice.

Well then we aren't talking about you. This isn't some absolute law as much as it is a trend I've seen among my newly parental friends. If this isn't you then just move along. Clearly, OP has had experiences of the opposite. It's a little insulting to have you imply that my friendships were empty the whole time, I just never knew it. We used to talk about Video games, memes, movies, comics, weed, beer, philosophy, ethics, transhumanism, lots of things. I'm not gonna list everything, but you get the idea, our conversations used to be a lot more broad and deep.

The hell kind of rundown strip clubs do you go to? Do you still have both of your kidneys?

Lol, Alabama strip clubs are gross and I'm glad I stopped doing that. Almost all the girls there had children or their boyfriends sat around and watched which was weird.

Makes me appreciate my friends with kids a bit more. They're still capable of carrying on an interesting conversation because they never were the types to talk only about themselves. So, #notallparents and all that.

LOL @ the stripper. Ain't nobody got time for that.

I'm sure some of them are. It just seems like the scope of a parents concerns narrow after birth and they really don't have much else on their mind. And that's pretty boring

I'll stop being condescending if you stop making generalizations.

Ok
 
Based on your selected title and content of OP, these people aren't your friends because otherwise you wouldn't treat or think of them that way. Every time I see a topic like this one, I roll my eyes and hope that any "friends" of mine like the OP quickly exit my life.
 
I'm sorry but no it's not. In order to preserve the human species from disappearing, there is no need that all the humans that are currently alive procreate. There is only the need that some of them do so. In the grand scheme of things, the number of humans alive on the planet doesn't need to grow indefinitely, it's not better or worse. There is just the need of enough humans currently living.

I'm someone who doesn't want to have kids. For multiple intricate complex reasons. And i'm fed up being told that my life is less valid, or less fullfilled, or I have less value than someone who procreates because that's the utimate goal of life and it is the only way to be complete (like it's the only way to platinum a life...).

I have friends who have kids. They got what they desire. They are happy. I'm happy for them. I like their kids, they're cool human beings and I'm interested in what they will become when growing up.

But, no, childless people can contribute equally to human society than others. I teach in a university, I think teaching useful skills to people is not an invalid way to contribute to the society. I have also other hobbies and activities and i've decided to fully invest my time in them. Sorry, but to say that i'm "less" a human than others because I don't have a kid, it's insulting. At least, i'm doing it by choice, but for the countless people who can't have kids, I think it's nauseating to think that way.

And please, spare me the argument like: "but if everyone were thinking like you and behaving like you, the human species will cease to exist, so my biologiccal argument is still a valid one!". No it's not, because it's an absurd hypothesis to begin with. In real life, this has a very low likelihood of happening. Never in the course of human history people will wake up and decide to not have kids anymore. So let the childless people remain childless people quietly and stop saying they will never achieve the ultimate goal of life.


There's nothing wrong with not having children at all. In fact I agree with the people who say that having children is partly to fill a missing void in your life. Whether it's a good or bad thing to not have that void, and thus not feel the need for children to fill it up, is up to every individual to decide for themselves. I had it and now it's filled, and I'm happier for it. You don't and that's perfectly fine. Sometimes people who have children think that childless people are living with that unfilled void, and sometimes people who don't have children think that parents had kids just to fill their empty lives with something. Both are being unfair.
 
Well then we aren't talking about you. This isn't some absolute law as much as it is a trend I've seen among my newly parental friends. If this isn't you then just move along. Clearly, OP has had experiences of the opposite. It's a little insulting to have you imply that my friendships were empty the whole time, I just never knew it. We used to talk about Video games, memes, movies, comics, weed, beer, philosophy, ethics, transhumanism, lots of things. I'm not gonna list everything, but you get the idea, our conversations used to be a lot more broad and deep.

I just don't understand the problem. Like, now that they have kids, what happens when you talk about video games? Do they just stare blankly at you?
 
I don't think it's just change, it's a diminishing because you are giving that for your child and they don't understand how to balance it until their children are older. Here was a better summary posted by chiliboy.
Parents life revolves around the kid they just had, which is now their most important thing in the world. How is that diminishing your own life? And yes, when kids get older they require less attention and effort so the parents have more time to do other stuff. That's all perfectly normal.
 
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