DrForester
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I'll think he's a despicable asshole in a week after he kicks the Broncos ass.
Kind of indifferent right now.
Kind of indifferent right now.
Why do people hate Cam Newton?
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I don't remember it being a big issue like this when they were making the Super Bowl.
DeaconKnowledge
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Ask Caste Football.
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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Immediately run back to the sidelines and sit with his QB coach looking over stuff on a Microsoft iPad
Calamari41
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Basically because he's really good, is cocky about it, and doesn't play for most people's teams.
Skellig Gra
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Yeah, and its always "the usual suspects" who are doing it.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Because he beat the Cardinals. Same as Russell Wilson and Ben from the Steelers. Fuck all of them. Tom Brady hasn't done anything to the Cardinals, so I can't hate him.
ElectricBlanketFire
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I've never heard anyone critical of someone like, say, Jared Allen for stuff like this:
Violence Jack
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This shit makes my blood boil. I've heard the same thing when Cam and Russ are mentioned in the same sentence by goons on other sports radio shows.
shadowsdarknes
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That's nothing new in the NFL
Ninja Scooter
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Those things are magnified because of his race. It's naive to think otherwise. How often are white players like Aaron Rodgers and JJ Watt criticized for show boating or ego? People still hold on to Cam stealing a laptop when he was 19 or his dad having shady dealings with a college 7 years ago, yet Peyton Manning having HGH delivered to his wife gets swept under the carpet.
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Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Jason Whitlock had an interesting take on this that the media and people in general are framing it as racism without feeling like they have to prove there's a serious undercurrent of racism in order to create a controversy and I was inclined to think what he was saying had merit.
"We had Russell Wilson play Peyton Manning just two years ago in the Super Bowl. Russell Wilson is black. Somehow it didn’t evolve into some low hanging fruit race discussion. We had Donovan McNabb in the Super Bowl and he was expressive in the way he played and did a Michael Jackson dance occasionally. Donovan McNabb, not the most popular quarterback and he embraced the moment and talked about it, but that didn’t evolve into this race-bait discussion. What has happened is the media has moved and changed. The media has gone all in on racial debate discussions that are divisive for clicks and ratings. So, the media is driving all of this.”
As a minority myself, I'm not trying to argue racism is dead in America or anything but I don't think just saying "because he's black QED" is a sufficient explanation. I don't even think people hate Cam Newton at all. I think a lot of is the media saying "this is controversial" in order to spur that conversation.
You mean why do SOME people hate him.
Lots of other teams fans hate Watt. Aaron Rodger is just so good that he's hard to hate.
Peyton's HGH link is hysterical. Everyone tripping over themselves to not bring it up at all. If it was another QB, namely Tom Brady, it would be everywhere.
Lots of other teams fans hate Watt. Aaron Rodger is just so good that he's hard to hate.
Peyton's HGH link is hysterical. Everyone tripping over themselves to not bring it up at all. If it was another QB, namely Tom Brady, it would be everywhere.
There's definitely a racial element to the dislike, because the amount of obnoxious behavior just wouldn't be viewed as dis-likable as it is if he were white. What's more it's highly likely the Panthers are going to smash the Broncos leaving the ultimate white knight "The Greatest QB of All time" (with more playoff losses than wins?) looking inept with Cam Newton doing NBA Jam/Blitz level celebrations all over the field.
It's kind of weird to think about about it, but if you were to cross Donovan McNabb with Randall Cunningham you would get Cam Newton. McNabb was criticized pretty harshly at the end of his time in Philly for his game ending obnoxious dancing routines on the sideline.
I find the guy mildly annoying, but I love him as an NFL QB...PERFECT BLEND OF ATHLETICISM AND POISE IN POCKET PASSING.
It's kind of weird to think about about it, but if you were to cross Donovan McNabb with Randall Cunningham you would get Cam Newton. McNabb was criticized pretty harshly at the end of his time in Philly for his game ending obnoxious dancing routines on the sideline.
I find the guy mildly annoying, but I love him as an NFL QB...PERFECT BLEND OF ATHLETICISM AND POISE IN POCKET PASSING.
VendettaRed07
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People who say that it has nothing to do with race are completely full of it. Sure he's cocky but there's a lot less room for tolerance for a player to have any personality when they are black
If Gronk was black he'd be the most hated player in the league. People would call him a trashy unprofessional thug left and right. But because he's white he's a lovable silly frat boy
If Gronk was black he'd be the most hated player in the league. People would call him a trashy unprofessional thug left and right. But because he's white he's a lovable silly frat boy
silvermember
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Exactly.
Russ is the type of black quarterbacks white people (racist) love. He is good and not too flashy.
Cam is the type of black person white people (racist) hate. He is very expressive, his really damn good at his job and he is having fun. Cam has the same problem Obama has. People want Obama to be more expressive, but when he does they get angry for expressing emotion.
Black are expected to be emotional neutral. Blacks cannot express joy or anger. If you are too happy, they try and bring you down. If you express anger, they call you an angry black guy.
Just because a black guy said something is not possibly racist doesn't make it not racist.
There is something very important you need to realize. The U.S has become more openly racist ever since Obama became president. It is like a flood game open when Obama won the election. It is like people realize something and the racist became more open.
I don't particularly remember what the media said in 2006, I do know that from my memory Donovan McNabb while good wasn't cocky like Cam Newton. Cam Newton is damn good he is kicking butts and taking names. Great black player have always have an issue whenever they do something that white deem as inappropriate. I remember Randy Moss getting slammed by the media for doing something most people will consider not a big deal, but I digress. Whites racist hate it when a black player knows he is good and acts in a way they deem cocky. Randy Moss had that problem and Cam Newton currently has that problem to.
If you think this is not a racist thing, then it must be nice living in a ideal world. BTW it is not the media that is playing it up, it doesn't hurt that you get angry white ladies writing open letters to Cam Newton whining about some BS.
Doug Heffernan
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Most people don't hate him. The very few people that do hate him are being magnified by all these click bait articles by journalists looking to play the race card because they have nothing better to write about. It's a non-story in my opinion.
I used to dislike him at first because he would celebrate TDs and still lose a shit ton of games. It was like unearned swagger. But he's gotten better over the years and my perception of him changed. He became more and more of a baller. He's been clutch against great teams. He's been instrumental to a team of no names. Basically, he's done his job. He can do whatever he wants as far as I'm concerned. The swag is justified.
It also helps that he admires Tom Brady so...anybody who admires Tom Brady has to have pretty great tastes in everything.
It also helps that he admires Tom Brady so...anybody who admires Tom Brady has to have pretty great tastes in everything.
TemplaerDude
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This seems like it's really reaching to me. I haven't noticed anymore hate directed towards him other than the usual "you don't play for my team" hate. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Should have added "at QB."
Didn't Big Ben have multiple rape allegations? I never hear that brought up beyond when they first occurred.
I miss pouty sideline $cam Newton with the towel over his head. Now he's about to make my team the only one in the division without a Lombardi. 
In all seriousness though, Cam seems to have matured, and he's great fun to watch. Just not against us. I hope he does get his ring though. I just wish it wasn't this year.
In all seriousness though, Cam seems to have matured, and he's great fun to watch. Just not against us. I hope he does get his ring though. I just wish it wasn't this year.
Lord Radik
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The dabbing, dancing, preening etc, is something football players do, but a quarterback!? That position is for the stoic, poised field general. And it's something that probably rubs fans the wrong way. The stuff that happened at Florida happened when he was 18 and he hasn't had an issue since. As far as his game goes, and what the Carolina offense does is a breath of fresh air for the NFL. It's a mix of power running and a vertical passing game. No dink-and-dunking like so many NFL offenses have become. It's fun to watch.
Nastrodamous
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because he went to westlake high school
Mixolydian
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Example: Cam Newton and Travis Kelce.
ThatStupidLion
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I've never heard anyone critical of someone like, say, Jared Allen for stuff like this:
get back to me when you have a QB as cocky and loud as Cam to compare him to.
Rhymes with sack. Something which rarely happens to Cam, by the way
Also because he's not a vanilla wafer out on the field like PFM, Eli, and Brady
Lot of racism in this thread.
Cesare Borgia
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He's black and has the audacity to be cocky and "arrogant," which are traits only white athletes can have in most cases. Consider the fawning over Ronda Rousey, who is cocky and arrogant and has violated some sportsmanship rules like Cam. People love it from her, but not Serena or any black athletes outside of maybe Kobe.
All that being said I do think Cam goes too far at times. Tearing down other team's banners or snatching flags isn't cool. But most of the ire aimed at him focuses on other things which are meaningless: dancing, smiling, being confident, etc. It's laughable.
All that being said I do think Cam goes too far at times. Tearing down other team's banners or snatching flags isn't cool. But most of the ire aimed at him focuses on other things which are meaningless: dancing, smiling, being confident, etc. It's laughable.
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HarryDemeanor
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He's not white.
Meaning he's black.
Meaning he's black.
Ninja Scooter
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Are fans starting letter writing campaigns about how they had to cover their children's eyes because his antics were so obscene? This isn't typical "he's not on my team so I dislike him" hate but you are blind if you don't think there is more to it with Newton and many other black athletes. I'm not saying everyone who dislikes him is a racist, but there is definitely a racial component to how he and other black athletes are perceived in this country, which magnifies everything they do or don't do.
Seems like some of the same misplaced hatred that Muhammad Ali received when he first entered the boxing scene. Black and cocky but can back all of it up. He is a pretty unique player, a faster, stronger and more accurate Vince Young. If he wins the Superbowl I have a feeling a lot of the hate will go away.
VendettaRed07
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The discount double check was awesome and became a phenomenon with people copying it as a celebration left and right. It's been in commercials for years
Compare that to how people react to Cams superman shirt rip move.
Compare that to how people react to Cams superman shirt rip move.
He's black.
The other stuff is just window dressing.
You do know Philip Rivers gets shit on constantly for being an unrelenting asshole, right?
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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So being a huge Cam Newton fan and not wanting him to be a boring piece of celery like my aforementioned examples make me a racist?
Lots of reaching in this thread.
On a side note, he is now on the Panthers.I've never heard anyone critical of someone like, say, Jared Allen for stuff like this:
I don't hate Cam, I just hate his Showboating, but whatevs, WR sometimes take it to a whole new differently level when it comes to TD celebrations.
He's black.
The other stuff is just window dressing.
he's just a fiery competitor
Andrew Korenchkin
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I think the real question is...
Why do people hate Kobe?
Why do people hate Kobe?
Ninja Scooter
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Why does it matter if it's a QB or not? And in what way is Cam cockier/louder than Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers? Because he dances? Dancing when you score a touchdown is somehow cockier/louder than Aaron Rodgers little belt celebration?
THe choice of the word "loud" is interesting by itself. How is he loud? Is he louder than Tom Brady or Phillip Rivers? Who are constantly barking at refs/coachs/teammates? Because I've never heard them described as "loud".
gutter_trash
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they expect him to clap like after he finishes a meal or a watching a movie
Because he's a criminal?
On the court, nothing but respect for the man.
All fair points. I guess personally I'm fine with any kind of celebration after a TD, but there are some players (Cam included) that celebrate after every somewhat big play or first down. It just gets on my nerves after a while.
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