I'm saying though. People are talking like their lives are on the line or something. They are playing a game. Literally a game children play, yet people are mad when any sort of emotion is shown. Who really cares? This is refreshing.
Why do people hate Cam Newton?
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I'm saying though. People are talking like their lives are on the line or something. They are playing a game. Literally a game children play, yet people are mad when any sort of emotion is shown. Who really cares? This is refreshing.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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I think it's because Danon Oikos triple zero is inferior to Fage greek yogurt.
Ninja Scooter
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It wouldn't exactly be a new phenomenon in sports. I mean, a lot of people back in the day who criticized Muhammed Ali were also very accepting of Floyd Patterson or Joe Frazier, but nobody would argue that race wasn't a huge component in the way Ali was viewed or treated in those days. You act as though racists don't root for black athletes. Of course they do. They view them as thoroughbreds. "I hope he does well and helps my team win but I wouldn't want him over for dinner"
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Too ghetto..
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Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
You must be really annoyed by JJ Watt then.
JJ Watt does kind of suck
DontBeThatGuy
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He's the future and that makes certain people uncomfortable. (and he's incredibly confident, which also makes certain people uncomfortable)
Mattlikewhoa
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It's been mentioned before, but a large part is because he's a black QB.
Keep giving kids footballs after you score TD's (and eating that fine every game) and dabbin' on em!
Keep giving kids footballs after you score TD's (and eating that fine every game) and dabbin' on em!
Fine Ham Abounds
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This is weird to see. I thought he might be a spoiled punk in college but he's actually grown on me significantly since going pro. I say this as someone from Louisiana. How can you spend the time criticizing this guy when you have jokers like Manziel out there giving you new material every week?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
People don't criticize Rivers (who is as big of a shit-talking asshole as there is, and as a Chargers fan I love guy) because Rivers has never been as good as Cam is right now.
FreedomFighter
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Flag on the play... Intentional Gaslighting. That's a 15-yard penalty heckmanimation... and lose of down.
Twitter erupts in racist Cam Newtom tweets...
White tears meme has never been more appropriate.
This gets to the main point. A hate of the 'culture' Cam represents by some very uptight people. Now whether that for some people means they're racist is I guess something only they would know.
But a black sportsman that is seen as 'cocky' and non conformist to his assigned role is generally seen as a problem by so called 'respectable' people.
People is a vague term, of course, but Giants fans hate him as the anti-Eli. Which includes his shit-talking asshole nature in addition to his severe lack of rings.
This is the thing right here. Dude is by all accounts a saint now, but some people want to either point to some stupid shit he did years ago, or just straight disparage him blindly, based on his play on the field. The man can't win, until he does, and then it's tolerated.
You have to be joking me. Yes, anyone who hates on Cam Newton for showboating must be racist.. WTF?
From a more sane perspective, my guess is people have a problem with Cam obviously for showboating but also for excessive showboating and the media want's to pile on to get clicks.
For example, he runs for 8+ yards and get's a first down only to celebrate it like that's some sort of amazing feat. In that same week Tom Brady & Peyton Manning ran for 10 yards for first downs.
Personally I like Cam and his celebrations but sometimes you just want him to act like he's been there before.
tfur
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It is probably in your head. Do you have numbers on %hated for top athletes in the assorted major sports?
All athletes have fans and non-fans.
I don't hate Cam Newton. I think he is quite an athlete, who is tall, fast, physical and has pretty good arm.
Maybe, why does everyone love Cam Newton?
All athletes have fans and non-fans.
I don't hate Cam Newton. I think he is quite an athlete, who is tall, fast, physical and has pretty good arm.
Maybe, why does everyone love Cam Newton?
Purple Cheeto
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Yeah but Cam Newton's dad got paid to steer him to Auburn and Auburn got no punishment.
Reggie Bush's step dad got paid to steer Reggie Bush to the NFL and USC got the death penalty.
Plus there's that whole video on the Cam Newton thing where he has this giant shit eating grin as he says "it's like they say, an ongoing investigation".
But I mean hating an athlete for being an insincere douche bag means hating pretty much all athletes. I don't have issues with how he plays or celebrates on the field.
Tom Brady is easily more hated than can Newton. Every single thing he does is scrutinized.
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Because he can't get his completion percentage over 60.
People just like to hate what is great. Anyone who watches College Football hates him for 2010 and the way he puckered people's assholes all season long to bring victory to the great campus which is Auburn.
NFL only people hate him because they can't stand to see something go against the norm. Might also be racism, who knows? We'll have to keep debating this shit even after he wins the SB this weekend because...
NFL only people hate him because they can't stand to see something go against the norm. Might also be racism, who knows? We'll have to keep debating this shit even after he wins the SB this weekend because...
wild wild rice
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Shit. I have a vague memory of this idea from my Black Literature class a long time ago... Time to go dust it off via Google.
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Tom Brady is unquestionably the most hated QB in the sport, this is true.
I think it's different when as a QB, you're delivering punishment to the defenders. Brady and Peyton have NEVER done that. It's a differently feeling of exuberance when you physically enact your will upon an unwilling participant... As opposed to cowering and sliding.
Pretty much all of this. Most of my hatred is from his time at Florida and at Auburn. It's hard for me to like any NFL player that went to a rival college program.
But I think the majority of people dislike him because he's an outspoken black man playing a position that's predominantly white.
Also this.. The mentality that he seemed to have at the time regarding knowing that they broke the rules but that they weren't going to get caught because of a technicality.
Soapbox Killer
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Race isn't the primary issue here, its the QB position and the expectation that goes along with it. If this dude played on defense, nobody would care what he did.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The problem is ascribing all of these increasingly complicated behaviors and thought-processes to this supposed class of purebred country-fried racist everymen because that's a gut-feeling argument. I don't doubt there are racists out there who contribute to hating on Cam, but I simply don't understand the concept of just saying "well I don't need proof" because "c'mon man, its just racism" as though there literally isn't any reason to dislike someone of color beyond their color.
I'm just saying that the same "public at large" that we're talking about that's hating on Cam might be hating on Rivers if Rivers was having an MVP season and about to win the Super Bowl. The NFL tends to revolve around Franchise Quarterbacks, so you see the same guys (who are heavily scouted for "character," which of course might have its own racist component to it) every year. I don't think the controversy surrounding Newton is near what the controversy surrounding Rothlisberger was and to the extent it does seem that way seems very much media-driven.
JJ WATT is the big one, it's really odd to me that Cam gets this much hate, so it's hard for me to rationalize it.
Tom Brady is literally the whitest person I've ever seen in my life. He's so white he makes my vanilla pudding taste like strawberry.
I mean look at this clown.
Even his derpy looking smile screams 1950's midwest. The guy couldn't be more boring if they had him sitting down in an infomercial reading off the phone book with elevator music playing ever so quietly in the background.
I do like him as a QB though. For the record.
lol, I can assure you that many of them do, one way or another. There's a reason why you don't have massive amounts of college athletes complaining about not being paid. They're in school, typically on a full-ride scholarship, they receive preferential treatment pretty much anywhere they go, and the stuff that goes on behind the scenes with regard to boosters and other "gift givers" would make even the richest students envious. Schools also don't make as much as you think they do at the expense of the athletes. That money ultimately goes back into the athletic department and better facilities, helping the school remain competitive and giving the students more exposure. So until there's a massive strike or protest from these athletes, it's probably not going to happen.
the QB position and the expectation that goes along with that is primarily about race
FreedomFighter
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If you don't see all the racist things people have been saying about Cam on social media and the double standards when it comes to endzone celebratory dancing...
What else could it be? How do you explain that double standard?
Context might have something to do with it. Some first downs are bigger than others, depends on what is going on in the game and the circumstances. Or maybe Cam did just celebrate an insignificant first down. Wide receivers do it all the time. But since this is Cam, is it a problem?
serikson45
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Lol at everyone jumping straight to racism. This is the NFL. People hate most good players who are cocky from other teams. Just as many people hate Brady as those who love him. I personally haven't liked Cam ever since I saw a video of him making fun of a line judge who had a baby face. It was very mean spirited.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Yeah I dunno, every time I see Tom Brady I want to punch my TV. It's like knee-jerk. I don't even understand it.
I don't even watch football more than three times a year, maybe it's because I know I'll punch my fucking TV if I see Tom Brady
I don't even watch football more than three times a year, maybe it's because I know I'll punch my fucking TV if I see Tom Brady
DeaconKnowledge
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People just like to hate what is great. Anyone who watches College Football hates him for 2010 and the way he puckered people's assholes all season long to bring victory to the great campus which is Auburn.
NFL only people hate him because they can't stand to see something go against the norm. Might also be racism, who knows? We'll have to keep debating this shit even after he wins the SB this weekend because...
Man, that gif never fails to make me laugh.
Sure, so you should celebrate it every time you run for a few yards and a first? I am 100% all for celebration when it matters or on huge gains, but just cause you got a first down then had to kick it away a few plays later don't mean shit.
My point, and this applies to all players, is just act like you been there before. When you make a great play or score a touchdown go HAM but don't act like that after every stupid little play cause it makes you look like a jackass.
To take the ignorant cesspool of social media and use that as a representation of society is completely backwards.
As for celebrating the first, like I said above: My point, and this applies to all players, is just act like you been there before. When you make a great play or score a touchdown go HAM but don't act like that after every stupid little play cause it makes you look like a jackass.
Just my view on it. If he wants to celebrate everything great, but when you do people are going to see it as unnecessary showboating.
LOL. Are you a Seahawks fan?
andthebeatgoeson
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When you cheat...
The Albatross
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Yep, this is me.
I was a big Panthers & Newton fan, with Ron Rivera being one of my favorite coaches in the NFL. But because they've put together a great season and are dominant, the incessant showboating by the entire team (something you don't notice when they're 7-9 in the worst division in the NFL) and led by their superstar world-eater media-darling QB makes me root against them.
I'll be rooting for them on Sunday but it's one of the first times I've rooted for Carolina since week 6 or 7 this season.
I like Newton for his ability, just like how I like Watt and Rodgers for their ability. But I dislike Watt for his stupid dancing, how obsessed he is with himself, the entirety of this season's Hard Knocks which should have been renamed the "Rehearsed as fuck JJ Watt Hour." I hated the stupid Rodger's belt thing. And I dislike Newton for excessively celebrating every small accomplishment in life. I dislike the Panthers for taking team photos in the middle of a game.
But, if they were 7-9 Panthers in arguably the worst division in NFL history as they were in 2014, then you just wouldn't see it so much and it wouldn't grate on you. Because they're potentially one of the best teams in NFL history, they're media darlings, and the NFL is desperate to highlight showmanship and sell players, you see them on every highlight reel, on every clip, on every commercial break, on every advertisement, etc. And you end up resenting those great players.
To people who say stupid stuff like "Oh, let them celebrate! They're making the game fun!" I don't want to take away celebrating from somebody. Yes, let them celebrate, and then let other people criticize them for celebrating.
Tom Brady never cheated, as long as we're talking about deflategate. Brady, Belichick, and the Patriots have been completely exonerated of any wrong doing, but don't take my word for it, take the New York Times article from just last wee "True Scandal of Deflategate Lies in the N.F.L.’s Behavior."
I think that you need to read what I said again, as I already answered this question.
Same reason that Sherman was getting clicks after his HORRIBLE POST GAME INTERVIEW after the 9ers game.
Clicks.
FTFY
if Cam has been doing this since he got in the league wouldn't he therefore be acting like he's been there before?
sounds like racism
Watt is JustWINS incarnate and only gets called out by fans. Same for most of those players. The media never goes after white players the way they do black players actions. Jared Allen was duck dynasty king for the shield. Even fucking Riley Cooper got a spotlight, and got to show how great he was after re-integration. TO was a media controversy, not a team controversy, until the media talking about TO too much became a distraction to the team. To think no other teams have had arguments and disagreements would be foolish, but popcorn having, asskicking TO? Get him off that team!
Sherman's interview was the worst. Seeing that, and then seeing Josh Norman's interview in their last game, oh man I just called him one of the good ones.
serikson45
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He has never had this much national exposure before this year. Everybody loves an underdog and the Panthers have been the juggernaut all year long. People just want to see him lose at this point.
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