Video games don't even have good stories, so it shouldn't be a shock that the movies based on them suck.
this one was one of the better movies because they didn't really stray too far from the games.Mortal Kombat.
this one was one of the better movies because they didn't really stray too far from the games.
Props to Jones for Moon, but as far as directing goes he's a little green, so not sure we can blame him there.
Snyder is a terrible filmmaker though. He's awesome at moments and montages, but a movie can't be a string of those with some filler. Unfortunately that's all we've ever seen from him. He literally hasn't made a movie yet.
Video games have shit stories in general. Translating them to a medium where the standard of quality is higher is bound to turn out a product that doesn't stand up to other, better things that are a part of that medium.
Bad stories, bad scripts. Bad scripts and shit writing usually leads to bad acting which further exacerbates the problem. Unless the movie is going full ham as to be enjoyable on a level that takes "quality" out of the equation, nearly every VG movie follows this to a tee.
Wreck it Ralph is an original script written by talented writers based on a story not based on a game. It doesn't count as a "video game" movie. It's a movie that takes place in a world of video games. It's not a video game IP adapted into a film.
^^ Ehhh. I don't know about that.
I don't why cats keep saying this. Just like any other medium there are ones with bad stories and good stories. It's no different from games. Hell you should know. We talk about these stories like every month on this forum.
They need to let me write a script. I know Pokemon has had probably the most movies, but I'd tear that shit up fuck that Detective Pikachu they got planned. I need to play that Aurion game, but I'd be interested in writing the script for that movie too.
They are and arent. Depends on the game.Video games are not a story driven medium and as such the stories are not very good.
Lord & Miller directing Uncharted movie with Chris Pratt as Nathan Drake. Book it.
^^ Ehhh. I don't know about that.
I don't why cats keep saying this. Just like any other medium there are ones with bad stories and good stories. It's no different from games. Hell you should know. We talk about these stories like every month on this forum.
They need to let me write a script. I know Pokemon has had probably the most movies, but I'd tear that shit up fuck that Detective Pikachu they got planned. I need to play that Aurion game, but I'd be interested in writing the script for that movie too.
Because most VG stories are in fact shit. The total experience may make them enjoyable, but when you remove that and try to make a movie out of it you can't be surprised when it turns out shit
I never talk about the stories of games here. I mean, I know some people care, but I personally haven't been interested in a videogame's story since I was in middle school (ps1 and dc rpgs what up?!)
The thing is, the value of a video game, when translating to another medium, isn't in the story but in the "brand," so the story doesn't really matter. Look at the games that get adapted to film... have any of them had a good story to begin with? MK is probably the best video game movie still to this day, and it doesn't have a story that took more than 5 minutes to come up with, most likely while the creators were drunk and watching JCVD films.
It's probably easier to write an original story than to try and shoehorn some crap onto an IP that the writers had no stake in originally when it was created, and really doesn't have a decent "lore" base to create a compelling story with anyway.
Titanic is a Romeo and Juliet story, with the feuding families being exchanged with the struggle of the classes.
Not that hard to get.
So you said they're bad earlier, just because you don't care about them?
There's a lot of stuff to pull from MK if you want to be real about this. At the time I think only the first two games were out, but there's a ton of lore to Mortal Kombat. I didn't realize it until I played Deception.
I disagree about easier making an original story vs the IP. It's just a case by case thing. One day I might find it hard to think up of an original story, but another day some existing IP intrigues me and I write a bunch from that. Seeing something bad doesn't also immediately deter me from it, I see it as an opportunity to improve it.
Because most VG stories are in fact shit. The total experience may make them enjoyable, but when you remove that and try to make a movie out of it you can't be surprised when it turns out shit
It took 30-40 years, even longer if you include "superheroes" from radio serials for the one that hit it big and proved that you can do a good one
Video game movies have been around far less time and have had only 42 attempts, including the straight-to-DVD stuff and Uwe Boll
The entire concept is still in its infancy.
It's less that it can't be done, rather that it hasn't been done yet. Although I'd argue that Lara Croft was at least a decent action b-movie
You completely missed the point... Like entirely
You can say the same about countless movies too. Some of the best or most interesting movies are the ones that take a premise done by myriad other movies and executes it masterfully. The killer animal, the alien onboard, the serial adventure action hero, self-aware AI, etc.Considering most video games are a la carte aping movies for their storytelling, plot elements and visual language, I think trying to take that stuff and turn it back around into a movie is just a losing battle.
Thanks for telling, appreciate the wellput insight.
It took 30-40 years, even longer if you include "superheroes" from radio serials for the one that hit it big and proved that you can do a good one
Video game movies have been around far less time and have had only 42 attempts, including the straight-to-DVD stuff and Uwe Boll
The entire concept is still in its infancy.
It's less that it can't be done, rather that it hasn't been done yet. Although I'd argue that Lara Croft was at least a decent action b-movie
You can say the same about countless movies too. Some of the best or most interesting movies are the ones that take a premise done by myriad other movies and executes it masterfully. The killer animal, the alien onboard, the serial adventure action hero, self-aware AI, etc.
Stop, please stop this nonesense out of no where about games having bad stories. That's entirely false. I mean how can anyone tell me with a straight face that The Martian has a complex story than Deus Ex? I mean you have to really want to make a myth about this good story bad story to believe it.
Now, I haven't actually read or watched The Martian, though I plan to, it is at least a novelty in the sci-fi space. It's also well position because we're also in a renaissance of sorts of hard(ish) sci-fi films: Gravity, Her, Interstellar (lul), Ex Machina, Arrival, etc.
Yup, we literally crafted a movie around LEGO,which has no story and turned out damn fine.
Heck, we've turned short stories into moving movies.
Video game stories being shat is only part of the problem, but not the problem.
Now, I haven't actually read or watched The Martian, though I plan to, I'm familiar with the synopsis and it is at least a novelty in the sci-fi space. It's also well positioned because we're also in a renaissance of sorts of hard(ish) sci-fi films: Gravity, Her, Interstellar (lul), Ex Machina, Arrival, etc.
80 Days? Soma?Oh shit the Martian in both book and movie form is miles beyond anything Video Game writers have shat out. As far as hard sci-fi goes, it doesn't get much better than The Martian in the last 5 years. The writer has a clear understanding of character, plot, and action.
Can't compare that to ANY video game Narrative (much less the shit show that was Deus Ex).
Stop, please stop this nonesense out of no where about games having bad stories. That's entirely false. I mean how can anyone tell me with a straight face that The Martian has a complex story than Deus Ex? I mean you have to really want to make a myth about this good story bad story to believe it.
I don't really think there's anything inherently more interesting about the story of The Martian that would make it a better choice than Deus Ex for an adaptation.
Oh shit the Martian in both book and movie form is miles beyond anything Video Game writers have shat out. As far as hard sci-fi goes, it doesn't get much better than The Martian in the last 5 years. The writer has a clear understanding of character, plot, and action.
Can't compare that to ANY video game Narrative (much less the shit show that was Deus Ex).
That fits with my second example.Guys, don't forget Ace Attorney movie also exists, and it is pretty good.
It took 30-40 years, even longer if you include "superheroes" from radio serials for the one that hit it big and proved that you can do a good one
Video game movies have been around far less time and have had only 42 attempts, including the straight-to-DVD stuff and Uwe Boll
The entire concept is still in its infancy.
It's less that it can't be done, rather that it hasn't been done yet. Although I'd argue that Lara Croft was at least a decent action b-movie
You can't be serious. You think MGS is hard sci-fi?Im not one to play games just for their stories but I have to say Kojima games can compete with Hollywood in the hard sci fi narrative category. Ive seen the martian as well. Outside Kojima i'd have to agree.
Soma and 80 Days are good contenders. 80 Days more so, I love the world of 80 Days. Soma... less so, probably because of personal preference rather than anything else.80 Days? Soma?
Im not one to play games just for their stories but I have to say Kojima games can compete with Hollywood in the hard sci fi narrative category. Ive seen the martian as well. Outside Kojima i'd have to agree.