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[Incognito]

If bush is so great on terrorism, then why has then been more consistent terrorist attacks around the world since he has been in office???

:lol

iraq has been the biggest terrorist recruiting coupe for al-qaida since... ever.

but we need strength, conviction, unwavering support.

we can't have a president who threatened to veto his own $87 billion bill because he thought it'd be better off in grants rather than loans. (only $1 billion of that bill has been approriated; something john kerry was ADAMANT about in his defense of voting against that bill. the funds wouldn't find their way to iraq.)

we can't have a president who's willing to politicize the iraqi war by landing on an aircraft carrier in his best halloween costume and tell the world that "major combat operations in iraq are now over. a major ally of al-qaida has been defeated."

we can't have a president who's presided over the biggest growth of poverty since george h.w. bush was in office.

we can't have a president who's watched health care premiums rise 17%.

we can't have an administration who absolutely refused to acknowledge mistakes or errors and then rectify said problems.

or can we?

 

[GG-Duo]

Cuz Gavin Rossdale is boning Gewn and he dont take no shit from nobody!

90s "Alternative" Music joke! Hurrah!!!!

 

[btrboyev]

I really just don't get how the RNC had such a big impact on the polls....it boggles the mind.

Not that i think polls mean anything, because they don't...if bush really is ahead in these polls, then why don't I see real life evidence of this??? I see far more kerry support on the whole almost everywhere I turn.

 

[Cooter]

Not that i think polls mean anything, because they don't...if bush really is ahead in these polls, then why don't I see real life evidence of this??? I see far more kerry support on the whole almost everywhere I turn.

Because it's a fact that your city represents the entire United States.

 

[btrboyev]

I'm not talking about just my city...shit I live in a small town in northern minnesota..you find little bush support here..but even when I head down to minneapolis...look on television..talk to other people, you find far more kerry supporters than bush supporters.


Bush supporters irk me in many different ways..one such way is I've never met anybody who has had a favorable opinion on john ashcroft, yet bush supporters guaantee there vote goes to the likes of ashcroft. The guy is probably the scariest guy in the entire administration...he lost to a dead man in an election for christ sakes...

 

[Incognito]

ashcroft is a horn away from satan on earth.

 

[Minotauro]

Because it's a fact that your city represents the entire United States.

Is that the only argument you have with thread?

Boy, how the mighty have fallen.

In all seriousness, if I were conservative, I probably wouldn't post in this thread either. Regardless of how well-reasoned your post is, there will still be a huge liberal pile-on that you will have to wade through.

 

[Triumph]

Because it's a fact that your city represents the entire United States.

Yay! Cooter's back! Hip hip hooray!

Seriously guy, dish out some arguments for your side. I know you want to. How is George W. Bush effectively waging the war on terror? I'd like to know. Thanks in advance!

Your slavish admirer,
Triumph

 

[Minotauro]

Yay! Cooter's back! Hip hip hooray!

Just be thankful that I convinced him to changed his name back to "Cooter" instead of that ultra-generic one he had, "MSW."

 

[Cooter]

Where I live Bush stickers out number kerry ones 2 to 1 and teh President attracted atleast three times more people than Edwards did when they visited. Clearly Kerry has no chance. Reno Nevada has spoken.

I would love to address why Bush is and will be more effective fighting the war on terror than Kerry but that will take some time that I don't have right now. I will try to resond tonight.

 

[Boogie]

And I thought arguing politics online was going to solve the world's problems...

http://2gunzup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=86&page=1

 

[Phoenix]

He is better on terrorism because during his term the most devestating terror attack on American soil EVER took place.... oh wait

 

[etiolate]

I understand someone liking Bush for his wagering being wrong in order to be right, but I do not understand wagering lives in order to be right.

 

[Mumbles]

Sorry, to add yet another political thread, but alas it is that time of year. The question that had really been irking me is why everyone thinks Bush is somehow strong on foreign policy, homeland security, and terrorism?

Agreed. The homeland security part is especially confusing. Here's the guy who lost to congress on how to handle airport security, on the office of homeland security, on the 9/11 commission, and who has done little to secure borders or seaports. His single major action against keeping nuclear materials out of terrorist hands has been to invade a country that had no nuclear materials, while applauding Musharref's weak punishment for AQ Khan. On the international front, he seems to have chased off support, and has made himself the poster boy for Al Qaida recruitment. He's decisive when it comes to invading other countries, but he can't seem to get others to follow him there. And on the domestic front, he's less of a leader, and more like the little kid that rushes to the front of a parade and pretends that he's leading it.

And yet, all I keep hearing is "well, we haven't had an attack since 9-11, so Bush is clearly doing a good job." Yes, and my computer keeps dragons from entering my apartment.

*shrug* I've noticed that many (most?) people don't seem to have any idea what's going on in politics - they simply react in knee-jerk fashion to what their emotions or political leaders tell them. I suspect that Bush's popularity is a side effect of that.

 

[Socreges]

And yet, all I keep hearing is "well, we haven't had an attack since 9-11, so Bush is clearly doing a good job." Yes, and my computer keeps dragons from entering my apartment.

Haha, that reminds me...

Homer: Ah, not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: *sighs* By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
Homer: *pauses* Lisa, I want to buy your rock.

*shrug* I've noticed that many (most?) people don't seem to have any idea what's going on in politics - they simply react in knee-jerk fashion to what their emotions or political leaders tell them. I suspect that Bush's popularity is a side effect of that.

I'd like to know how what percentage of Conservatives/Republicans were raised that way.

 

[Outlaw Pro Mod]

And yet, all I keep hearing is "well, we haven't had an attack since 9-11, so Bush is clearly doing a good job." Yes, and my computer keeps dragons from entering my apartment.

What poppycock. Thousands of terrorists have been detained / killed since 9/11/01 thanks to the Pres. Bush and allies. Seems to me that Bush isn't exactly failing.

 

[MrAngryFace]

Spend all my tax and future social security money killing people ive never met and in effect pissing off countries ive never been to in a ever so blind swipe at the elusive TERROR which plagues my daily life as I decide which kind of milk to buy. Yeah bush does that. Cool, thanks man.

 

[xsarien]

What poppycock. Thousands of terrorists have been detained / killed since 9/11/01 thanks to the Pres. Bush and allies. Seems to me that Bush isn't exactly failing.

And worldwide, terrorism has increased since 2001. Seems to be that the grand ol' war on terror isn't really all that effective.

And, um, "thousands?" You weren't suckered into thinking that everyone in places like Abu Grahib and Gitmo is a bonafide terrorists, were you?

 

[Banjo Tango]

What poppycock. Thousands of terrorists have been detained / killed since 9/11/01 thanks to the Pres. Bush and allies. Seems to me that Bush isn't exactly failing.

So why is terrorism on the rise, and why is Iraq slipping out from our control? Again I ask, has Bush given any sign that he actually understands the conditions under which terrorism thrives?

I remember on "To the Point" some White House official said that it was false to claim chaos, insecurity, and destitution created terrorists because Osama Bin Laden was from a rich family.

...

I wish Warren Alny had torn him a new one over that, but I guess he just isn't that kind of host.