Why is copying data from a disc on PS5 still so insanely slow?

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SJRB

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I got my Diablo IV copy in the mail over half an hour ago and the PS5 has been "copying" ever since. And it's still only at 75%.

I don't know how many GB is being pumped on the SSD but this is kind of ridiculous, is it not?
 
Still only at 80%, are you serious right now


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That disc will never spin as fast as a solid state storage solution can read. It won't and there is no incentive to make it any faster as they want all media digital.
 
As fast as is the read speed from a disk. Also the whole game is installed on the SSD. Nothing runs from the Blu-ray, only the authentication checks.
 
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I remember having to wait for Scooby Doo on the zx spectrum to load

It took 25 minutes to load, and 9 times out of 10 the game would crash at the intro screen

Then I would rewind the tape, wait another 25 minutes and hope it worked this time

This is what I was waiting for



Some people seriously have no idea how easy they have it nowadays
 
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It's not that it's slow per se, more that games are larger than ever and 4K textures take up a huge amount of space. When games were smaller, they loaded quicker 🤷‍♂️
 
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Bulletbrain said:
A Blu-ray drive read speed is about 30-35MB/s. So it should take 30-45mins to transfer 75gb of data?
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Nah you also have to account for the ps5 os having to move data around. Since the os is based on free bsd the data is not fragmented. That means to add new data or updating … a lot of data has to be moved to temp spaces and reallocated. This also means the more drive space that is used the slower this will be.
 
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Probably because read speeds for Blu Ray drives aren't that fast. It's a large game, it takes time to install, take a breath and chill for a bit.

You know what they say, a watched kettle never boils!
 
It's about 33MB/s
Megabytes. Not bits.

How long is ever since? I've not had a game install longer than 40 minutes and even then You can play after much less
 
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Disconnect from the internet, so it doesnt also download the patches straight away. This botches your install speed.
After disc copying is done, connect to the internet and let it download the patches/ content.

It's MUCH faster this way. Sony hasn't fixed this since the fucking PS3..
 
All these people making jokes and not attempting to answer. It should not take that long to pull the data from the disc really. He was asking if that is normal or maybe something on his end. I've wondered the same thing as some games took forever to load.
 
Um... Copying anything from a disc drive has always been slow, even on bluray, not sure why would anybody would expect it to be fast on PS5.
 
I mostly buy digital right now and pick up the disc version when they are cheap or if it has a nice cover or when it's a collectors edition.

Just to place it on the shelves.
 
When you preorder a disc based game they should give you a download code so that you can have the game downloaded and ready to go when you get the disc in hand. Best of both worlds experience, but I'd imagine the people that complain about the initial load of a game is so niche that it isn't worth the time and effort to implement such a system.
 
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When you preorder a disc based game they should give you a download code so that you can have the game downloaded and ready to go when you get the disc in hand. Best of both worlds experience, but I'd imagine the people that complain about the initial load of a game is so niche that it isn't worth the time and effort to implement such a system.
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This would have worked with MS plan at the launch of Xbox one but doesn't work now because you could just sell the physical game back.
 
This is a phenomenon with status bars. It's copying pretty fast but doesn't feel like it due to seeing the % that's being copied and your time. I installed SF6 from a disc and it took about 5-10 minutes, which seems slow but it copied over 50GB in 5-10 minutes. An old PC game on an old CD ROM would take this time to install a 600MB game.
 
RoboFu said:
This would have worked with MS plan at the launch of Xbox one but doesn't work now because you could just sell the physical game back.
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Just because you download a game it doesn't mean you have a digital license to run it. You'd still need the disc without the digital license. All it would really do is be a convenience to preload and have any day 1 patches ready to go.
 
It downloads any available patches as part of that initial install, so that's probably why it's taking longer than you think it would considering only the BD read speed.
 
Thirty7ven said:
Downloading is faster than installing from the disk these days if you have good fiber.
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Downloading, yes, but then the "copying" step takes longer than the actual download. At least with patches (because the patch has to be applied to the existing install, data moved around, etc), maybe not for the initial download.
 
Console processors and memory improve with each successive gen. Physical media drive speeds don't.

Blu-Ray read speeds have been largely the same since PS3 gen. Hence, why the PS5 does a one-time upfront install of all the disc contents.

Just run it for an hour while you take a big shit. It's not that big of a deal.
 
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