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[Horse Detective]

The title is self explanatory. I am just wondering how along the process of development in entertainment, particularly video game and television related, violence was deemed less damaging and traumatizing than sex.

It seems as though throughout my childhood, no parents around me really prevented their kids from receiving M-rated games, or watching/ developing an interest in highly violent shows or movies.


Why is it all the sudden unacceptable when content revolves around the idea of people making themselves or others feel good, rather than harming one another.

 

[Gustav]

US is run by puritans.

 

[abusori]

This is one of those first post wins things.

 

[Jedeye Sniv]

US is run by puritans.

Genocidal puritans at that.

I think the important question is not why is this, but how do we stop this?

 

[storafötter]

US is run by puritans.

Even if the case is more true in the US I still feel like violent content is still more available than sexual content in Europe too. Look at what kids play and watch these days.
The youngest would be exposed to these type of things more likely than sexual content at an earlier age even if sexual content is less frowned upon.

 

[Scrow]

 

[6.8]

Violence builds character! Sex builds demons!

 

[Forceatowulf]

Why are so many pornstars ok with licking a persons ass and swallowing their loads but refuse to kiss them?

 

[Messypandas]

because we should be ashamed of our bodies and natural urges

 

[Gustav]

because we should be ashamed of our bodies and natural urges

Also, what Ted Bundy did is much more acceptable than what your parents did.

 

[DonMigs85]

I think the guvment secretly wants to encourage people to be violent and kill each other off to reduce the population. If sex stuff was more readily available, people would make more babbies.

 

[Vermillion]

Why are so many pornstars ok with licking a persons ass and swallowing their loads but refuse to kiss them?

Wait, what?

Also, before or after?

Wait, what does this have to do with anything?

 

[Sloane]

Even if the case is more true in the US I still feel like violent content is still more available than sexual content in Europe too. Look at what kids play and watch these days.

Depends on the country, I guess. Germany is pretty strict on violence but you can show naked breasts on TV in the afternoon.

 

[Erasus]

US is run by puritans.

First post gets it.

As a swede, I feel that us having sex-ed earlier affects our view on sex. Its a more relaxed view, but movies, music and games with sex are 18+

Violence is 15+

 

[Gustav]

Depends on the country, I guess. Germany is pretty strict on violence but you can show naked breasts on TV in the afternoon.

Depends on context. You can show full nudes all around the clock if it's not sexual. No full erect penises, though.

 

[Forceatowulf]

Wait, what?

Also, before or after?

Wait, what does this have to do with anything?

I've always noticed this in porn. Girls do nasty shit and then when a guy moves in for some face action they shy away.

It's not a before or after thing. It's a never thing. I don't think I've ever seen a girl willing to kiss in the beginning and refuses once things got started, or vice versa.

This has nothing to do with anything. I thought this was going to turn into a "Ask why" thread. I've made a huge mistake...

 

[Alx]

Because sex is against the law, and violence isn't.

Oh wait, it's the other way around.

 

[crazy monkey]

violence is not private sex is.

 

[Vermillion]

I've always noticed this in porn. Girls do nasty shit and then when a guy moves in for some face action they shy away.

It's not a before or after thing. It's a never thing. I don't think I've ever seen a girl willing to kiss in the beginning and refuses once things got started, or vice versa.

This has nothing to do with anything. I thought this was going to turn into a "Ask why" thread. I've made a huge mistake...

Lol. Also, I've never seen this, tbh. So I've no idea what you're talking about.

 

[DonMigs85]

violence is not private sex is.

But I hear that monkeys have sex in front of each other all the time!

 

[Horse Detective]

violence is not private sex is.

Sex yes. Sexual content, no.

 

[jaxword]

Genocidal puritans

There we go, someone got it right.

Remove the genocidal puritans from power and you'll see decades of sexual repressed floodgates open.



Sometimes I theorize that it's an observation that thousands of years of leaders use: Sexually frustrated men are more willing to fight and kill.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

I've always noticed this in porn. Girls do nasty shit and then when a guy moves in for some face action they shy away.

It's not a before or after thing. It's a never thing. I don't think I've ever seen a girl willing to kiss in the beginning and refuses once things got started, or vice versa.

This has nothing to do with anything. I thought this was going to turn into a "Ask why" thread. I've made a huge mistake...

You must watch some shit porn. Both profesional and amateur stuff I watch doesn't shy away from this.

Also, I assume there's a genuine fear for THE CHILDREN to get interested in sex too early, whereas it's assumed the same won't happen about violence. You see how well that one turns out.

 

[Horse Detective]

There we go, someone got it right.

Remove the genocidal puritans from power and you'll see decades of sexual repressed floodgates open.

A world I dream of.

When will these elderly people in power die? It seems like they have been there for a long time.

Also, I assume there's a genuine fear for THE CHILDREN to get interested in sex too early, whereas it's assumed the same won't happen about violence. You see how well that one turns out.

This is perhaps the greatest failure of recent/modern society I can think of.

 

[Phantast2k]

Depends on the country, I guess. Germany is pretty strict on violence but you can show naked breasts on TV in the afternoon.

I'm sure you're even allowed to broadcast nude body parts all day (Playboy, not Hustler style) if it's part of the news (like the newest FEMEN protest, some sort live nude art) or if they are in the context of breast feeding, documentaries (tribal tits & dicks) or, again, art/theater.
[US-NSFW, old nudists]
Also FKK
[US-NSFW, Nazi tits]
Also Leni Riefenstahl

/beaten

 

[Forceatowulf]

You must watch some shit porn. Both profesional and amateur stuff I watch doesn't shy away from this.

Who doesn't watch shit porn? You gotta weed through the bad stuff to get to the good stuff!

I envy the world you guys live in where this stuff isn't an occurrence though. This has been pretty glaring to me for about 12 years now.

Maybe it's a country specific thing...

 

[V_Arnold]

Because violence is a low-vibrational, fear-based act. They want to expose the majority of the civilization to that, either directly or non-directly, through passive means (news reports, movies, tv shows).

 

[Manmademan]

US is run by puritans.

yup. seeing sexual anything is equivalent to a "loss of innocence" etc etc. There's more than a few states that ban any sexual education in school at ALL, even when most kids graduate at 18 or so.

 

[jaxword]

A world I dream of.

When will these elderly people in power die? It seems like they have been there for a long time.

Should've quoted the second part of my post, it answers this question.

Remember, all decisions about morality, religion, right/wrong, they're all about POWER. Controlling people.

We're not that smart, we're just building on what other smart people have done for centuries. Control the sexuality, control the people.

 

[Horse Detective]

Thread title should be changed to "Why is violent content more suitable for youth than sexual content", since that is my actual question.

 

[EnderWiggles]

Sex on TV reminds people how fat and ugly they are, and how little sex they're having themselves.

 

[itxaka]

Because I can have sex legally but violence will land me in jail so I need it feeded to me by other medium. Like if it was some pills with minerals to reinforce the ones Im not getting.

 

[dab0ne]

I think there is a mentality in the US where if you're watching a movie and some one kills someone else you can tell the child "it's fake" or "he didn't really die... it's just a movie." But if the child see boobs or a penis you cant really explain that away as fake. Just an assumption. Not that it really matters though because I remember sneaking my dad's Playboys when I was like 9 or 10. Kids get exposed to it no matter what especially with how accessible it is online.

 

[kswiston]

Controlling sexuality was mostly about controlling women from what I can see. Most societies turn a blind eye to what men do. Especially young men.

However, I don't think you can ignore the fact that violence appeals more to children than sexual content until they get closer to puberty. Two and three year olds find it funny when you pretend to trip and hurt yourself. Siblings don't need to see examples in media (or from their parents) to start punching and kicking each other. Violence is pretty hardwired.

 

[Enosh]

US is run by puritans.

looking at the media coming from the US, this does make me laugh

 

[jaxword]

Who doesn't watch shit porn? You gotta weed through the bad stuff to get to the good stuff!

I envy the world you guys live in where this stuff isn't an occurrence though. This has been pretty glaring to me for about 12 years now.

Maybe it's a country specific thing...

The reason they don't kiss is because every hooker or prostitute has an act or a place on their body which they never allow their clients to do or touch. They "save" that for those they actually LOVE (or at least think they love). Oh, and don't pretend that the porn stars aren't hookers, they are, just because you're on camera doesn't change the label. They don't love men, they hate men; that's why they see them as objects, not people, to perform a job for and be paid. There's no emotional attachment at all, so there's no kissing. Didn't you ever wonder how some of these women can even do what they do without separating part of themselves from their actions?


Most male clients don't really care about kissing and prefer to get right to the in-and-out-hole action. Any hole. So the prostitute can get away with "saving" the act of kissing because they can easily not perform it and still have a satisfied customer.


Yes, I do own a brothel.

 

[Horse Detective]

I think there is a mentality in the US where if you're watching a movie and some one kills someone else you can tell the child "it's fake" or "he didn't really die... it's just a movie." But if the child see boobs or a penis you cant really explain that away as fake. Just an assumption. Not that it really matters though because I remember sneaking my dad's Playboys when I was like 9 or 10. Kids get exposed to it no matter what especially with how accessible it is online.

Why does it need to be? Children aren't born with some unnatural discomfort with nudity or sex.

I would imagine it is natural to be frightened or disturbed when seeing someone harmed.

 

[jaxword]

looking at the media coming from the US, this does make me laugh

The media gives the people what it wants.

More specifically, what it wants because it doesn't have.

If people had satisfying sex lives, there'd be very little of it on the airwaves. Why would there be a demand?

 

[iamaustrian]

this is an USA thing

we have tons of boobs and sex here everywhere. may it be the afternoon TV programm or newspapers.

but i have to say that I enjoy the ridiculous Puritanism whenever I'm in the U.S.
it's like a vaccation from tits-overload

 

[acheron_xl]

I think it begins and ends with religion, which seems especially fixated on the shamefulness and preciousness of sex. Violence is much more pedestrian.

 

[Horse Detective]

this is an USA thing

we have tons of boobs and sex here everywhere. may it be the afternoon TV programm or newspapers.

but i have to say that I enjoy the ridiculous Puritanism whenever I'm in the U.S.
it's like a vaccation from tits-overload

In Austria?

 

[GrandHarrier]

Genocidal puritans at that.

I think the important question is not why is this, but how do we stop this?

Hooboy. Andherewego.gif

 

[DiscoJer]

I don't think it's so much traumatizing, so much as they don't want to encourage sex, because that leads to teenage pregnancies.

Though I suspect it has the opposite effect...

But all this started in 1934 (for movies, but also infiltrated other entertainment)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Code
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_Code

The curious thing is that it comes from Catholics, not Puritans (or their descendants, rather). Basically they lead the charge to get movies censored.

Pre-Code movies are surprisingly modern. They're fascinating to watch, because you realize that the movies after it until probably the early 70s were essentially just a facade, a farce, really.

 

[Enosh]

this is an USA thing

we have tons of boobs and sex here everywhere. may it be the afternoon TV programm or newspapers.

aa yes I remember the tits and asses show on Confetti TV
oh wait I don't (unless you count Miriam Hie)

I do remember them censoring the shit out of gladiator through

 

[dab0ne]

Why does it need to be? Children aren't born with some unnatural discomfort with nudity or sex.

I would imagine it is natural to be frightened or disturbed when seeing someone harmed.

You're absolutely right and I don't know the right answer. Maybe people just have this unrealistic expectation for kids to stay innocent as long as possible. I don't personally think that way but perhaps a lot of people do. I think the better solution is to make the reality of sex available and then explain to your children the consequences of not being sexually responsible ie. STD's, Pregnancy, and things like that.

Edit: Also, sex sells. Keep it taboo and you never run out of customers

 

[jaxword]

I don't think it's so much traumatizing, so much as they don't want to encourage sex, because that leads to teenage pregnancies.

Though I suspect it has the opposite effect...

It does. The states most against sexual education (and encouraging celibacy) have the highest rates of teen pregnancy.

 

[MasLegio]

sex is sinful unless it is used for actual procreation by a married man and woman

violence is putting Gods will in action

that is why sex is worse than violence in religious countries

 

[Forceatowulf]

The reason they don't kiss is because every hooker or prostitute has an act or a place on their body which they never allow their clients to do or touch. They "save" that for those they actually LOVE (or at least think they love). Oh, and don't pretend that the porn stars aren't hookers, they are, just because you're on camera doesn't change the label. They don't love men, they hate men; that's why they see them as objects, not people, to perform a job for and be paid. There's no emotional attachment at all, so there's no kissing. Didn't you ever wonder how some of these women can even do what they do without separating part of themselves from their actions?


Most male clients don't really care about kissing and prefer to get right to the in-and-out-hole action. Any hole. So the prostitute can get away with "saving" the act of kissing because they can easily not perform it and still have a satisfied customer.


Yes, I do own a brothel.

ehhh, you had me.. until the "hate men" part.

 

[kevm3]

1) "Puritanical values" doesn't teach that sex is bad and the human body is nasty. It discourages sexual relationships OUTSIDE of marriage.

"Making people feel good" also comes with the responsibility of creating lives. Raising children is expensive. This is why you don't encourage youth to 'make each other feel good.'

For the most part, people can watch violent content and are a lot less likely to commit a violent act than they are watching sexual contact and have a desire to engage in sexual activity.

 

[jaxword]

ehhh, you had me.. until the "hate men" part.

Funny thing is, you don't believe me, but it's actually true.



Well, all but the brothel part, I'm just a regular customer.