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[UrbanRats]

Just the other day i was imagining how a Max Payne 3, but sex centered instead of violence centered, sold at the general public, would be.
"pretty great" was my conclusion, i mean just imagine for a second..

As far as movies tv and games go violence is fake. a head being shot for example is fake but a breast, penis, vagina or bad language is real.

So sex with rubber dicks and fleshlights is ok?

 

[-COOLIO-]

I think it begins and ends with religion, which seems especially fixated on the shamefulness and preciousness of sex. Violence is much more pedestrian.

yip

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Just the other day i was imagining how a Max Payne 3, but sex centered instead of violence centered, sold at the general public, would be.
"pretty great" was my conclusion, i mean just imagine for a second..



So sex with rubber dicks and fleshlights is ok?

WHAT. How would that even... how?

I'm a fan of both sexual and violent content. I like naked beautiful women and bad guys getting shot up as much as the next guy. But not if it's weird. Like... sexualized murder. That's weird.

 

[-COOLIO-]

As far as movies tv and games go violence is fake. a head being shot for example is fake but a breast, penis, vagina or bad language is real.

you heard him

hentai for all

 

[goldenpp72]

While I agree that the imagery of someones head being chainsawed off is a lot more disturbing than 2 people lovingly having sex, I actually do sort of get the logic. See as a child, when I killed people in mortal kombat, I didn't have a direct desire to tear a friends head off and show it to their laying corpse. If exposed to porn or other sexual things as a child (I was) it enticed me to want to explore that area a lot more. I equate violence as bad, and sex as good.

Sex is desirable, violence to that degree, not so much I hope. The desire to have sex with a woman (or man) should usually outweigh the desire to kill or do violent acts in most normal people. So the desire to refrain your childrens eyes from seeing it done makes sense to some extent, unless your kids having sex is not an issue for you.

 

[Amory]

I'm not a parent, but I would assume it's because sex is something almost everyone does at some point, and it can lead to some pretty shitty circumstances like teen pregnancy. Violent behavior isn't nearly as pervasive, so it's seen more as just entertainment rather than influencing kids to do it.

Basically when I was a kid and I saw sexual content I was like, oh man, I can't wait to do that. When I saw violent content I wasn't looking to go blow something up, though.

Edit: Basically exactly what the guy above me said.

 

[Horse Detective]

First reply but to expand I've been reading this book called Sex and Punishment and it isn't until certain cultures were adopted and become widespread (see various Abrahemic religions) that sex becomes this "unpure"/dirty act that must be behind closed doors and never spoken of. Religion really brought "shame" to the table and we're still treating sex that way.

I'm glad you're not banned anymore!

 

[DonasaurusRex]

So the problem we have is....we arent promoting porn to our children? That makes us puritan? I guess im confused...outside of kids being able to obtain stuff thats intended for a higher age group. I dont see where kids entertainment is going to turn kids any more violent than they already are. I watch my niece and nephew and i gotta watch all kinds of kids shit, fuckin disneyXD/nicktoon/nickjr/disney channel/cartoon network/netflix rinse and repeat. I dont pay attention that much but looks and sounds like ...kids entertainment, low conflict...every other sentence rhymes, colorful, and waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much singing. * i hate you Pepa Pig* .

 

[UrbanRats]

WHAT. How would that even... how?

Well the storyline would be something like Shame i guess.
This Alcohol and viagra addict goes from orgy to orgy in New York, then moves to Brazil for more.
The game, with highly detailed genitals, modeled and animated like never before; throw in slow motion, euphoria.. could be cool.
The killcam is not very different from a moneyshot.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Well the storyline would be something like Shame i guess.
This Alcohol and viagra addict goes from orgy to orgy in New York, then moves to Brazil for more.
The game, with highly detailed genitals, modeled and animated like never before; throw in slow motion, euphoria.. could be cool.
The killcam is not very different from a moneyshot.

 

[Speevy]

Kids will have sex because they're human beings. And because they're human beings, knowing about it won't keep them from being stupid. So they're being protected from their stupid selves for as long as possible, which is (give or take) 2 years.

 

[Loki]

This is because sexual imagery and sex itself is pleasurable to everyone, whereas violence is only pleasurable to sociopaths and the highly maladjusted (who will always be in the extreme minority; note that I'm talking about serious violence, not little Timmy punching his classmate during a dispute). So there's basically an inherent psychological "block" which prevents most people from internalizing violent norms, which is why there's less restraint on violent imagery in the media.

Add to that the fact that the "causal chain" for sexual acts is much longer and further removed from the act itself. That is, if you hit or shoot someone, the consequence is immediate and apparent, but sexual praxis and mores affect society in myriad ways, many of which aren't immediate; people need to be of a certain age before they can grasp all the implications of sex, and the social ramifications of greater licentiousness in the media in general (which some people seem to feel don't exist, but this is specious nonsense).

 

[Gustav]

This is because sexual imagery and sex itself is pleasurable to everyone, whereas violence is only pleasurable to sociopaths and the highly maladjusted (who will always be in the extreme minority; note that I'm talking about serious violence, not little Timmy punching his classmate during a dispute). So there's basically an inherent psychological "block" which prevents most people from internalizing violent norms, which is why there's less restraint on violent imagery in the media.

Add to that the fact that the "causal chain" for sexual acts is much longer and further removed from the act itself. That is, if you hit or shoot someone, the consequence is immediate and apparent, but sexual praxis and mores affect society in myriad ways, many of which aren't immediate; people need to be of a certain age before they can grasp all the implications of sex, and the social ramifications of greater licentiousness in the media in general (which some people seem to feel don't exist, but this is specious nonsense).

So everybody enjoying the fatalities in Mortal Kombat is a sociopath? That would be quite a handful on GAF.

 

[jaxword]

So everybody enjoying the fatalities in Mortal Kombat is a sociopath? That would be quite a handful on GAF.

While this is probably correct about GAF...it's probably more accurate to realize that humans are just violent creatures in general, despite how hard we pretend not to be.

 

[SapientWolf]

So everybody enjoying the fatalities in Mortal Kombat is a sociopath? That would be quite a handful on GAF.

A lot of people enjoy them but they don't fap to them. Although I wouldn't completely rule that possibility out.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

So sex with rubber dicks and fleshlights is ok?

no because to the lowest common denominator audience member(young people) you could easily explain that a dead person in a movie is pretending or whatever but it would be harder to explain a fake version of stuff they really shouldn't be seeing yet anyway."Hey johnny thats only a fake version of what girls have there.""yeah it looks like a weewee" etc.. though really young people probably wouldn't realize what they are anyway.

Just my opinion.

 

[snap0212]

accurate to realize that humans are just violent creatures in general, despite how hard we pretend not to be.

Psychologists and studies disagree. In fact, humans are less violent than ever. Here's another article that talks about the fact that violence is not caused by genetics.

 

[jaxword]

Psychologists and studies disagree. In fact, humans are less violent than ever. Here's another article that talks about the fact that violence is not caused by genetics.

Perhaps there's hope that this species won't kill itself yet.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Because it's way harder to explain that shit to kids and because parents suck.

King of the hill explained it well with the sex-ed episode.

 

[Im_So_Pringles]

I've also never understood why sex and nudity are so "bad" either. I sure as hell won't be keeping sex/nudity from my future kids with any more vigor than I will with violence. I just don't see the point. I will teach them, however, about STD's, teen pregnancy and the like.

 

[Loki]

So everybody enjoying the fatalities in Mortal Kombat is a sociopath? That would be quite a handful on GAF.

No, I was talking about ACTUAL VIOLENCE versus ACTUAL sex.

 

[Bombadil]

Because sexual intercourse is more easy to do than killing somebody. We have an overpopulation problem. We don't want kids fucking.

I don't think it is has much to do with puritans. That's just something people in Europe say because they're heard it from someone else who heard it from someone else. A lack of critical thinking will do that.

Sex scenes also do little to move the plot along, whereas violence is usually a part of the plot that contributes to the overall tone of the film.

For example, in a film like Wall Street, sexual intercourse and nudity do absolutely nothing to move the plot, yet I can recall two examples where they occur prominently. 1) Bud Fox's unnamed sexual partner rises from the bed, naked, and walks off camera. Bud gets up from the bed and checks his computer to see that it is Gordon Gecko's birthday. 2) Bud Fox gets into a limousine at the behest of a prostitute hired by Gecko to show Fox a good time. It is implied that she performs oral sex on him, though it is no explicitly shown.

Neither of these scenes contribute to the plot of the film.

People raving about "puritans" need to stop for a moment and think.

On another note, I tire of people who claim that sexual scenes are edited out/censored but violent scenes are let through. This is untrue. If you have seen the movie Gladiator as many times as I have, you would know that extensively violent scenes are often shortened or removed entirely from the film's run on TBS and TNT.

Now some of you on here blaming puritanism for making people feel ashamed of their bodies. That's not fair. Some of you NEED to be ashamed of your bodies.

But in conclusion, sexual scenes rarely move the plot along. There are some films that I've heard of, like Irreversible, where sexual scenes are pretty much the point of the film. A woman is raped and people take vengeance on one another for it. It makes sense. The graphic nature of the scene serves to show the viewer how horrific rape is.

But Angelina Jolie's tits in Taking Lives, while nice, do NOTHING. They distract both the male and female viewers from the plot of the film. The plot of the film itself sucks and we can tell right away that Jolie's breasts were shown to salvage an otherwise mediocre attempt at film making. Furthermore, I feel nudity in modern films is really just a lazy way to draw attention to the film.

 

[Gustav]

Because sexual intercourse is more easy to do than killing somebody. We have an overpopulation problem. We don't want kids fucking.

I don't think it is has much to do with puritans. That's just something people in Europe say because they're heard it from someone else who heard it from someone else. A lack of critical thinking will do that.

Sex scenes also do little to move the plot along, whereas violence is usually a part of the plot that contributes to the overall tone of the film.

For example, in a film like Wall Street, sexual intercourse and nudity do absolutely nothing to move the plot, yet I can recall two examples where they occur prominently. 1) Bud Fox's unnamed sexual partner rises from the bed, naked, and walks off camera. Bud gets up from the bed and checks his computer to see that it is Gordon Gecko's birthday. 2) Bud Fox gets into a limousine at the behest of a prostitute hired by Gecko to show Fox a good time. It is implied that she performs oral sex on him, though it is no explicitly shown.

Neither of these scenes contribute to the plot of the film.

People raving about "puritans" need to stop for a moment and think.

On another note, I tire of people who claim that sexual scenes are edited out/censored but violent scenes are let through. This is untrue. If you have seen the movie Gladiator as many times as I have, you would know that extensively violent scenes are often shortened or removed entirely from the film's run on TBS and TNT.

Now some of you on here blaming puritanism for making people feel ashamed of their bodies. That's not fair. Some of you NEED to be ashamed of your bodies.

But in conclusion, sexual scenes rarely move the plot along. There are some films that I've heard of, like Irreversible, where sexual scenes are pretty much the point of the film. A woman is raped and people take vengeance on one another for it. It makes sense. The graphic nature of the scene serves to show the viewer how horrific rape is.

But Angelina Jolie's tits in Taking Lives, while nice, do NOTHING. They distract both the male and female viewers from the plot of the film. The plot of the film itself sucks and we can tell right away that Jolie's breasts were shown to salvage an otherwise mediocre attempt at film making. Furthermore, I feel nudity in modern films is really just a lazy way to draw attention to the film.

Seeing a get killed with a hammer in gruesome detail in Boardwalk Empire, while disgusting, does NOTHING. This distracts both the male and female viewers from the plot of the series.

 

[Enco]

Just the other day i was imagining how a Max Payne 3, but sex centered instead of violence centered, sold at the general public, would be.
"pretty great" was my conclusion, i mean just imagine for a second..

Wut

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

Watch 'this film is not yet rated'

 

[Riposte]

Google is the great equalizer in this question. Porn and gore are both one word away.

Also violence may be more seductive to us.

 

[zoukka]

Organized religion.