Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I think he meant play COD NGP and be done with it lol.Big One said:Since when was the NGP able to RemotePlay perfectly?
I think he meant play COD NGP and be done with it lol.Big One said:Since when was the NGP able to RemotePlay perfectly?
DECK'ARD said:In a magical world where lag doesn't exist.
Different people in the house can play different games at the same time.Freezie KO said:Why?
This and ditching motion gaming in favour of touch and analog control just seems like a huge step backwards in terms of philosophy. These two pieces of the puzzle do NOT add up with these rumoured specs._Alkaline_ said:I refuse to believe Nintendo would get rid of their current console's best feature.
On a side note, I'm surprised no one was interested in the DKCR2 rumour, regardless of its validity (or lack thereof).
or we would if the series wasn't dead now.EmCeeGramr said:look the important thing is now we can have an hd console trauma center with touchscreen controls
that's pretty much proof of a benevolent god so i think we should all be happy
Vic said:HANDHELD GAMING FTW!!!
A: The question was if the value (created by home consoles) or "the rich experiences which could be realized only by home console video game systems" have changed. Until recently, it was true that the focus had been placed significantly on the "rich experiences" which were available because of such advantages as it could use the home electricity and, accordingly, home consoles have less restrictions in terms of power consumption, unlike portable devices which require batteries to operate, and that large and dynamic graphics can be created for the large monitor screens. But are these "rich experiences" the only unique characteristics which could be realized solely by home console video games in the first place?
If such "rich experiences" were actually the only uniqueness, home consoles would lose their meaning when battery-operated portable devices become capable of reproducing similar rich experiences. On the contrary, and this is something which started to be discussed when Wii made its debut in 2006, bigger screen TVs were entering our living rooms around that time, which enabled people to use their living rooms for a more broad range of purposes. More specifically, living rooms had morphed into play areas where people could move their bodies. This is one of the unique entertainment features that home console systems, not handheld devices, were able to realize.
With this as an example, even such a distinction that "home console machines provide rich experiences but handheld devices cannot" will change as time goes by, and I believe that there will always be unique experiences that only home consoles can realize. Nintendo has to make efforts to offer the public something only our home console systems can achieve. There are also a number of restrictions with home consoles such as you have to be in front of a TV set, all the players must get together in one place and you cannot play if someone else is watching a TV program. I feel that an increasing number of people, who are playing with a variety of games, are saying, "I used to be able to start home console games rather casually, just whenever I felt like playing with them, but nowadays, because I am used to the easy-to-start handheld game devices, I have to have a rather strong determination to start playing with home console games." I understand that the situation surrounding home consoles is changing. Home consoles have to provide something unique to users that is only possible on home consoles in addition to the "rich experiences." For example, we must focus on what kinds of unique entertainment can be created when a home console can reproduce its images on a large monitor screen which can be viewed by several people at the same time. I think that in the mid and long term, the mission of home console machines will change in this fashion.
don't be silly, nintendo has lost their minds and have no idea what they're doing.Pimpbaa said:If OnLive can manage to make streaming games playable over the fucking internet, then one would think a device with a dedicated connection just for streaming would be much better.
No ideaFather_Brain said:By the way, this 01Net article is several days old and was posted in the last thread - why are we poring over it as though it's new?
your face is deadAniHawk said:or we would if the series wasn't dead now.
The French site was the first one to reveal the name "Cafe." Now that we know the name is legit, we're reviewing their info.Father_Brain said:By the way, this 01Net article is several days old and was posted in the last thread - why are we poring over it as though it's new?
OK, THAT is way too creative to ever actually happen.ThoseDeafMutes said:It allows for splitscreen gaming without screen cheating, it allows for alternate screens for whatever reason (inventory at a glance in an RPG, a map of the gameworld, whatever), and it also allows you to play in bed or when someone else is using the television already.
It would also be fantastic for coop "Spec Ops" style gameplay, one player is using a Wiimote style pointer controls with the TV playing a regular FPS, and player 2 is controlling a UAV via the stream controller, providing support for player 1.
Big One said:Since when was the NGP able to RemotePlay perfectly?
Father_Brain said:By the way, this 01Net article is several days old and was posted in the last thread - why are we poring over it as though it's new?
Freezie KO said:You know what would be neat? If I still went to college and had 11 friends (let alone 2) who would come over and play Mario Kart all night.
Then I guess developers who don't want to use the touch screen will eschew it in favor of the little extra performance they can squeeze out on the main screen without it. Kinda like the 3D on the 3DS.SlipperySlope said:As far as the frame buffer goes, rendering a HD game plus four 800x500 screens would be similar to rendering two 1080p screens. Interesting, but not impossible.
I thought the controller wouldn't employ styli, a lot of GAFfers lead me to believe that Trauma's gameplay would be impossible without one. In other words, stick to the Wii's controls. Pointer controls are still in right?EmCeeGramr said:look the important thing is now we can have an hd console trauma center with touchscreen controls
that's pretty much proof of a benevolent god so i think we should all be happy
Door2Dawn said:Seriously, what the hell is the point of this thing?
It got lost in the giant megathread and not covered well.Father_Brain said:By the way, this 01Net article is several days old and was posted in the last thread - why are we poring over it as though it's new?
Father_Brain said:By the way, this 01Net article is several days old and was posted in the last thread - why are we poring over it as though it's new?
enzo_gt said:Yeah okay you've summed up my issues with the controller better than I could have, and reminded me of others.
The face buttons being so different from other platforms really puts devs in an odd position, and even otherwise, devs have to somehow build their game around the physical layout of the face buttons much more adversely thank a simple to understand diamond layout. Not saying the diamond is perfect, but the irregular layout of the GC face buttons surely provides an additional challenge when trying to ensure accessibility and ease of use of all of the buttons. It simply doesn't fit a human thumb very well.
So you can play the cafe while you play the cafe?EatChildren said:I woulder if Nintendo would allow streaming to the 3DS, and if that would tie into the whole 'Cafe' thing. EG: Cafes, stores, and other public places could theoretically set up a system and have it run software, and people with nearby 3DS systems could tap in and play whatever game they have on offer.
AKA: Go to a Cafe, whip out your 3DS, and hook into the Cafe's Cafe.
fuck you're rightJinfash said:I thought the controller wouldn't employ styli, a lot of GAFfers lead me to believe that Trauma's gameplay would be impossible without one. In other words, stick to the Wii's controls. Pointer controls are still in right?
Father_Brain said:A much better question: What the hell is the Cafe controller doing - in terms of substantive additions to gameplay, not the minor convenience afforded by being able to carry the controller a limited distance away from the TV - that couldn't be done by using 3DS as a controller?
Pimpbaa said:If OnLive can manage to make streaming games playable over the fucking internet, then one would think a device with a dedicated connection just for streaming would be much better.
Door2Dawn said:So you can play the cafe while you play the cafe?
Holy Order Sol said:Now bring back Ouendan.
Big One said:Because aside from RemotePlay, you just can't do that. Imagine being able to play CoD with all of the online functionality of sitting in front of a TV, in the palm of your hand, just sitting on the toilet or even going outside. That's some pretty fantastic and appealing shit.
EmCeeGramr said:fuck you're right
well my fingers will do
or i'll force it to use a stylus
There's plenty of phones coming out on the market that have lag-free streaming. It isn't really out there and doesn't require "magic" as you say. Matter of fact there's a video someone posted in another thread demoing some technology of a movie being streamed to a phone from a TV. Case in point if there's sever lag problems, why even release it? I think Nintendo would be smarter than that and have their products actually work.DECK'ARD said:The NGP would be running self-contained games as good (to the average person) as a PS3.
It's a dedicated handheld and isn't going to run into the issues of lag that this will, unless Nintendo has magically got round the issues of streaming. And even then you are crippling the power of your console by making it render so much extra stuff.
It all seems bonkers at the moment, unless we are missing some big idea.
donny2112 said:Okay, so the "new controller" seems like a supplemental controller, then.
* It'll be too expensive to be the main controller.
* It's designed for the streaming/take away from TV playing.
* Touch screen mimics Wiimote pointer.
I think the main controls when playing on TV will be Wiimote Plus + CCPro type controller. The "new controller" then would be able to reproduce those inputs (gyros in the "new controller" to mimic motion control parts?) on the go. This would work, and I like it!
That would mean that Wiimote+ is probably compatible with new games on the console, so don't need to buy all new controllers, too.
Darko said:the controllers look.... expensive
gahiggidy said:The hardware better be impressive considering its going to have to last untill 2011. HL2 graphics would look rudimentary by twenty-ten.
donny2112 said:Okay, so the "new controller" seems like a supplemental controller, then.
* It'll be too expensive to be the main controller.
* It's designed for the streaming/take away from TV playing.
* Touch screen mimics Wiimote pointer.
I think the main controls when playing on TV will be Wiimote Plus + CCPro type controller. The "new controller" then would be able to reproduce those inputs (gyros in the "new controller" to mimic motion control parts?) on the go. This would work, and I like it!
That would mean that Wiimote+ is probably compatible with new games on the console, so don't need to buy all new controllers, too.
Holy Order Sol said:You can even put some Cafe in your Cafe while you play the Cafe in the Cafe.
DECK'ARD said:It's a dedicated handheld and isn't going to run into the issues of lag that this will, unless Nintendo has magically got round the issues of streaming. And even then you are crippling the power of your console by making it render so much extra stuff.
It all seems bonkers at the moment, unless we are missing some big idea.
at a minimum console gaming is good for local multi, which as pointed out in several posts above this setup could be great for. pcs and portables are terrible for local multi unless all your friends are nerds, and even then they're pretty wackFlying_Phoenix said:Honestly I don't care about consoles that much anymore.
PC gaming is phenomenal and handheld gaming is a very nice complement to that.
I don't see much of a point to consoles anymore.