Freezie KO
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Big One said:Pretty positive being able to stream home console games from the controller is pretty fucking big
Why?
Big One said:Pretty positive being able to stream home console games from the controller is pretty fucking big
Because aside from RemotePlay, you just can't do that. Imagine being able to play CoD with all of the online functionality of sitting in front of a TV, in the palm of your hand, just sitting on the toilet or even going outside. That's some pretty fantastic and appealing shit.Freezie KO said:Why?
Smision said:controllers = detachable portable console
makes no sense, but then again, not a whole lot about this new system does.
Serenade said:I wonder how the hardware handles rendering 4 800x480ish screens and then one at full HD for a session of Mario Kart which traditionally runs at 60fps.
This whole screen on a controller dealio smells of questionable ballfunk
fixed.PantherLotus said:You know what would be neat? No 4-person limit. That was kindofan artificial limit based on split screens anyway.
Let's have a mario-kart party. I got koopa. 11 others can come over, but BYOC!!
Nintendo is ______.Door2Dawn said:This thing will fail. They have completely lost sight of what made the Wii so successful.
What he says!ThoseDeafMutes said:It's not a console, it's just the screen. All the computational gruntwork will be done by the box, and you are "tethered" to it. You can't play your games 10km away from the console, since the controller isn't what is running the game.
Keyouta said:I'm assuming the picture posted in the comments on that site is fake, but:
I don't believe it will look like that.
PantherLotus said:This is the first of many "JEDI LIGHTSABER FIGHTS!" posts that we're all familiar with from about 4-5 years ago that only lead to massive disappointment and hand-wringing.
SloppehSlawlz said:This sounds like complete crap. Going after the hardcore my ass.
Serenade said:I wonder how the hardware handles rendering 4 800x480ish screens and then one at full HD for a session of Mario Kart which traditionally runs at 60fps.
This whole screen on a controller dealio smells of questionable ballfunk
pretty sure this has to be correct; it would compete directly with the 3DS otherwiseThoseDeafMutes said:It's not a console, it's just the screen. All the computational gruntwork will be done by the box, and you are "tethered" to it. You can't play your games 10km away from the console, since the controller isn't what is running the game.
SloppehSlawlz said:This sounds like complete crap. Going after the hardcore my ass.
Seriously, what the hell is the point of this thing?ThoseDeafMutes said:It's not a console, it's just the screen. All the computational gruntwork will be done by the box, and you are "tethered" to it. You can't play your games 10km away from the console, since the controller isn't what is running the game.
Big One said:Because aside from RemotePlay, you just can't do that. Imagine being able to play CoD with all of the online functionality of sitting in front of a TV, in the palm of your hand, just sitting on the toilet or even going outside. That's some pretty fantastic and appealing shit.
Project Cafe: a few precisions on the controller and the streaming
A tablet similar the UDraw, advanced streaming functionalities with the console and the tablets/controllers, the latest news on the Wii 2.
The informations published yesterday by IGN on the Project Cafe technical characteristics confirm what we have published in our April 15 article (http://www.01net.com/editorial/531636/toutes-premieres-fuites-sur-le-successeur-de-la-wii/ . Also, our sources confirm that the "mablette" [TN: untranslatable] (contraction of controller and tablet), that we revealed the existance here (http://www.01net.com/editorial/5316...2-de-nintendo-aura-une-tablette-pour-manette/ , has been described by Nintendo as a version 2.
Similar to the UDraw [TN: bad translation]
To give us an idea of what it will look like, our sources suggest to imagine a near cousin [TN: read, similar] to the UDraw graphic tablet, designed by THQ for the Wii, with a touch screen in place of the pen pad, and the controls distributed around the screen (triggers, d-pad, 2 "bumpers" (shoulder button?), sticks, etc.)
The Project Cafe controller could be described as a near cousin of the UDraw tablet that THQ created for the Wii.
Screen is not HD
The 6" panoramic screen is, for now, single touch with an uncommon resolution 5**x8**, clearly below 720p. We think the tablet (V2) seems to be most credible development path [TN: really not sure about this one]. Remember that until the planned release in June 2012, tentative date given to the developers, Nintendo will have the time to significantly change the shape and look of the controller and the console.
[Label to the first mockup] A non-official mockup, described by our sources as one of the closest to the design of the V2 controller.
A story of streaming
IGN also talked about the design of the console, saying that it is a kind of futurist SNES. Our sources cannot talk about this, since most developers don't have a prototype with the proprietary casing. Also on the English website, Nintendo consider calling the console "Stream".
Here again, our source cannot confirm this, but it could be a plausible choice and clever (excluding the urinary connotations, in the same lineage of the Wii, that already make people laugh on the English web). The streaming will have a central role for the attraction of this Project Cafe. The console will be able to wirelessly broadcast (stream) many type of streams (misc media, games) to the controllers. It will be possible to play games without turning on the TV, or begin an intense match on the TV and continue it in the bathroom. A true revolution.
[Label to the second mockup] A last mockup that does not correlate to the description by our sources, but remains credible.
Thin client?
The console and its controllers could work using a principle of "virtualization", where most of the processing is done on the console and the controllers act as display terminals, displaying pre-computed content [TN: code in the original article]. This system could broadcast high quality games on the controllers, with no noticable latency and without using compressed video streaming, which requires large bandwidth.
PantherLotus said:This is the first of many "JEDI LIGHTSABER FIGHTS!" posts that we're all familiar with from about 4-5 years ago that only lead to massive disappointment and hand-wringing.
It was one of the first rumors, so we can't really blame them for believing it.PantherLotus said:Who gave you that silly ass idea?
Thank you.Hugh Buelow said:Here is a rough translation of the article on 01net.
There are so many possibilities when you can play games sitting in different rooms or different parts of a room without the use of a TV, it's hard not to see the crazy amount of possibilities that this can produce. This is, even beyond just the gimmick and DS-touchscreen-similarity-in-use factors.Freezie KO said:Why?
Door2Dawn said:Seriously, what the hell is the point of this thing?
Serenade said:I wonder how the hardware handles rendering 4 800x480ish screens and then one at full HD for a session of Mario Kart which traditionally runs at 60fps.
This whole screen on a controller dealio smells of questionable ballfunk
Nirolak said:It was one of the first rumors, so we can't really blame them for believing it.
The DS has TWO screens!? :OPimpbaa said:What the hell is the point of the 2nd screen on the DS?
Since when was the NGP able to RemotePlay perfectly?DECK'ARD said:In a magical world where lag doesn't exist.
And then when the NGP comes out you can play it without lag and actually leave the house with it.
I love Nintendo, but unless we are missing a huge bit of the jigsaw they have gone totally mad here.
Bonjour les gars, ça été traduit 4-5 fois depuis.PantherLotus said:Hi guys, it's been translated 4-5 times now.
CoffeeJanitor said:Nintendo is ______.
I'll let you guys finish.
Door2Dawn said:The DS has TWO screens!? :O
Door2Dawn said:Seriously, what the hell is the point of this thing?
I wonder though if the console would have enough guts to handle all that. Having to output to the HDTV + 4 or more controller screens sounds like a lot.Linkhero1 said:Split screen gaming would be so good with the new controller with everyone having their own screen on their controller.
EatChildren said:Good.
Now lets talk about why I hate the lack of pointer again.
Is it really, though, if this thing doesn't work outside of a set distance away from the mother console? I mean, it's like having a tablet that can't leave home. Would the market still see this as an alternative to the tablet market?Nirolak said:Yeah I would say this is a pretty obvious assault on the tablet market while still trying to cater to the console market as well.
Hello young boys, it has been translated 4-5 livers since.Laurent said:Bonjour les gars, ça été traduit 4-5 fois depuis.
The controller is not a portable console, there is still the core system we haven't seen yet... the controller can get stuff streamed to it but it is not the console itself.Smision said:controllers = detachable portable console
makes no sense, but then again, not a whole lot about this new system does.
Pimpbaa said:What the hell is the point of the 2nd screen on the DS?
Nirolak said:It was one of the first rumors, so we can't really blame them for believing it.
Thank you.
Our sources revealed that the "tabtroller" (contraction of tablet and controller) is referred to by Nintendo as "version 2" (V2).
For an idea of how it looks, our sources told us to imagine a UDraw tablet with a touchscreen replacing the touchpad and traditional buttons around the screen (shoulder buttons, d-pad, sticks, etc...)
The 6 inch panoramic screen (16/9 or similar) is a single-touch screen (at least for now) and has a 8** x 5** resolution, clearly inferior to 720p. A tablet design (V2) seems like the most logical design choice. Remember than Nintendo could make a lot of changes to the final design before June 2012, which is the placeholder launch date given to developers.
http://www.01net.com/genere/article/fichiersAttaches/1303503627-01net-cafe-02.jpg
Our sources state that the above mockup is one of the closest to the V2 design.
Our sources were not able to comment on the redesiged SNES look of the console or the rumored "Stream" name (plausible because it fits and would be a clever follow-up to "Wii" because of the urinal connotations). Current devkits may or may not look like the final design. Streaming is definitely a central part of Project Cafe. The console will be able to stream different types of content (games, media) to the controller. It will now be possible to play without even turning on the TV or start a gaming session on the big screen and keep playing without interruption while going to the bathroom. A true revolution!
The console and the controller could function as a type of virtual client, with the box doing all the calculations and the controller as a display terminal. That would allow the system to stream content to the controller with virtually no latency or using a compressed video stream requiring a sizeable bandwidth.